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Carmen Milora's avatar

Good article on cause, but no recommendation on cure. What’s a person to do to extend longevity? Do bioavailable multivitamins work as well as glacial milk? What dosages are recommenced? Do men and women need different mixes and dosages of minerals? Are quality supplements commercially available, or does one need prescriptions to acquire the proper mix of nutrients?

Hat Bailey's avatar

There are colloidal mineral supplements available. They contain the essential minerals including the micro nutrients that are needed in tiny amounts for healthy tissues in the body. It is usually in a form that contains ancient organic compounds laid down by eons of forests and plant life compressed and heated in the earth. They are made very bio available because they are chelated or protected by humic and fulvic acids that form from the breakdown of the cellulose and lignins in those ancient deposits. I use something called shilajit which come from the Himalayas. It looks like a tarry black substance which is rich in these needed minerals. A small dab added to your coffee, cocoa or tea in the morning is very beneficial. Also a good pink Himalayan sea salt is good to use. The ocean has all the known minerals not like the white table salt most people use.

Lesa Spravka's avatar

But didn't the article say taking the minerals straight won't get into our cells. The plants have to process and get them into a shape that our cells can absorb. I've been drinking out of a copper flask for awhile but I'm not sure it's doing any good.

Hat Bailey's avatar

Yes, that is the problem. He said the colloidal form, where the minerals are broken down to very tiny particles that can easily pass through the intestinal lining helps absorption. You must also realize that minerals can be tied up in an unuseable form. There is something called "chelation" which protects the minerals from being tied up and unused as they pass through the intestines. Chelated minerals are bound to compounds like amino or organic acids, which are meant to boost your body’s uptake of the mineral at hand. This makes them much more useful and provides a "handle" that allows them to be attached and absorbed. These colloidal minerals from ancient sources are naturally chelated.

Sam Clark's avatar

This is where DMSO might be a good add in..

Alexandra's avatar

yes, thank you. I would be grateful if someone has a recommendation of any supplements we could take (for children as well).

Ron Heidary's avatar

This woman has a compelling healing story and seems very credible. She has a website and a YouTube channel. She only sells a few supplements. This is one. https://shop.greensmoothiegirl.com/products/greensmoothiegirl-ultimate-minerals

There is also a book, Leave Big Pharma Behind by Peter Glidden ND, in which he talks extensively about the 90 Essential Nutrients and the 12 Bad Foods to avoid.

neener's avatar

Great auestions? I was thinking the same thing! Where are the appropriate recommendations?

Laura's avatar

Dr. Westin A. Price, dental researcher, did the groundwork on nutrition for the US govt in the 1930s. His work was published (I think 1939). Then the FDA put out guidelines at 25% of his research conclusions.

Ron Heidary's avatar

I haven’t read the book. While I agree 100% with the article, does it mention anything about all the other influences that cause illness and death - medications, vaccines, chemicals in the food, air and water? Vaccines have been harming people for hundreds of years and has been accelerated since Covid. I would qualify the premise that you have to do both - get the essential minerals and avoid the toxic crap.

Lesa Spravka's avatar

I was thinking...possibly...our body can detoxify on it's own all the bad v stuff...IF we have sufficient minerals. Possibly.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Fortunately, humans can make inorganic minerals bioavailable by our little friends that cohabitate inside of us.

Microorganisms in the gut help ionize minerals. Gut bacteria are capable of altering mineral forms via biochemical processes such as reduction, oxidation, chelation, and acidification, which can convert minerals into their ionic (charged) forms that are absorbable by the body. For example, many microbes actively convert iron from its less soluble ferric state (Fe^{3+}) to ferrous (Fe^{2+}), a highly bioavailable ionic form, through reductive reactions in the colon. Certain bacteria also produce organic acids and metabolites that lower gut pH, improving mineral solubility and facilitating their ionization and subsequent absorption.

Gut microbes also release compounds such as siderophores, enzymes, and chelators that bind minerals and enhance their conversion into ionic forms for both their own nutrition and host absorption. Probiotics and other beneficial microbes can thus optimize mineral ionization and bioavailability, especially for elements like iron, zinc, and magnesium.

Horsea T.'s avatar

Well, that's pretty educational! I did not know this.

Curious Outlier's avatar

In your interview, why does Wallach say you can't get minerals from consuming inorganic minerals and then turns around and goes through how important salt which is an inorganic mineral is? What would be the key factor that makes salt easy to absorb and other minerals not so?

There is a form of inorganic mineral that can be readily utilized by the human body. The ionized mineral.

In practical terms, for nutritional and biological use, almost all essential mineral elements can be ionized during digestion or processing, allowing animals and plants to absorb them.

Hat Bailey's avatar

Even inorganic minerals are better than nothing, but how much actually is absorbed has a lot to do with the form in which it is consumed. Magnesium for example as magnesium oxide is hardly absorbed at all, magnesium glycinate is very much more absorbable than most of the magnesium compounds people use. Minerals that are supplied by plants grown in healthy mineral rich organic farmed soils are even better if you can find them.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Your body can chelate and ionize what it needs. MagOxide studies show effectiveness for magnesium sufficiency. Fully Ionized inorganic forms are even a little bit better. Examples of ionized inorganic are magnesium chloride and magnesium sulfate.

Horsea T.'s avatar

He was promoting his colloidal mineral supplement.

yantra's avatar

well also, to your first point, glacial minerals from water (to which he attributes the health of the hunzas, etc) are for sure inorganic.

Brandy Brogdon's avatar

What an awesome article to wake up to I traveled with Dr. Wallach for about 11 years. He’s a great guy very smart man. Saved all our lives and help get rid of a lot of diseases and people. Thank you for writing this well said.

Hat Bailey's avatar

I am one of those who listened to the original cassette "Dead Doctors Don't Lie." I am 81 years old now and still in excellent health using no pharmaceutical medications, no arthritis, which twisted the hands of my dear deceased mother. I attribute much of that to my attempts to heed the advice and warning in that cassette. Thanks for sharing this information that should be widely known.

Some User Name's avatar

Did the cassette tell you what specific products you were supposed to be using to get your minerals?

Curious Outlier's avatar

I'm gonna be writing on this topic and i'll show you how you can buy about eight years worth of trace minerals for around $30. I've been taking these trace minerals for nearly 2 decades.

carlos's avatar

Can't wait to read what you have to say Mr. Outlier :). Have to come up with a shorter name for you. Having to write out "Curious Outlier" when I want to refer to you is too much :).

Curious Outlier's avatar

You can call me Curious or you can call me by my real name, which is Jeff ☺️🙏🏻

carlos's avatar

Thanks Jeff. Hopefully, in my advancing age, I can remember that Jeff is connected with Curious is connected with Curious Outlier LOL. So many people, so many names and nicknames, oh my.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Just call me Curious. That's easy and that's what most people online refer to me as

Nancy Tait's avatar

Thank you. I follow you. Do you have an idea of when you might post on this topic? Again, thank you for all you do! 😘

Curious Outlier's avatar

Within the next 30 days, Lord willing.

Nancy Tait's avatar

That's great news! Thank you! 💕

Marilyn Helmus's avatar

Not sure where or how to follow you..want to read what you write about mineral supplementation

MarkGW's avatar

Have you read Dr Kory's new "substack book" on minerals. I have half way through and totally engrossed.

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/t/table-of-contents-for-from-volcanoes

I of course appreciate all of your work and insights as well (and especially your world view). A big fan.

Curious Outlier's avatar

yes. And we've had several text message conversation conversations back-and-forth about it. I learned about trace minerals back around 2006 when I subscribed to a publication called acres USA. I've taken trace minerals in a powdered form for nearly 2 decades since that time. I bought more than a lifetime supply. I will be riding about my experiences and the kind of trace minerals that I take.

MarkGW's avatar

Looking forward to it!

Hat Bailey's avatar

That was many years ago, some of these supplements have changed over the years. The main point of the cassette was that even rather rare and exotic elemental minerals from the periodic table are important in tiny quantities to produce flexible resilient tissues, for example the endothelial cells, or lining of arteries and veins. When these become less flexible, especially around the heart vessels where they are constantly being stressed or flexed by the pumping of the heart they can crack and cholesterol is used to make a scab to prevent leaking, these can eventually become blockages. Therefore he recommended colloidal mineral supplements that were derived from ancient deposits from healthy prehistoric plant life. These often were swamps or lake beds that were rich in these organic trace minerals. Minerals work together, some of the major mineral nutrients like calcium, potassium, zinc, and magnesium which are very important in many bodily functions need small amounts of other minerals that work together in a holistic way for optimum function.

Marie's avatar

I have been using borax for several months. I have rheumatoid arthritis and it has helped me become medication free

Hat Bailey's avatar

Yes, boron is one of those mineral elements needed in small amounts that work with calcium and phosphorus to make bones harder and tougher, less likely to break. I also take a little borax as a supplement. Ordinary borax that is used in laundry can provide that. As you get older your stomach acid is weaker so some minerals are not absorbed as well which is why many older people are deficient in some minerals. Using chelated minerals like magnesium glycinate, chelated with glycine an amino acid is absorbed much better in older adults. Taking betaine chloride as a supplement can help absorption also if your stomach acid needs a boost.

Marie's avatar

Raw apple cider vinegar before meals and digestive enzymes help

Hat Bailey's avatar

Yes, that's true. also supplies important minerals in useable form and has other health benefits including keeping arteries clear of plaque.

Horsea T.'s avatar

Is this borax in a bottle you get from the health food store, or do you mean the borax used for adding to your load of laundry?

Marie's avatar

The laundry borax. Quarter teaspoon daily

Horsea T.'s avatar

Thanks, Marie. Somehow I thought that form of borax might be poisonous.

Some User Name's avatar

Thank you for the explanation Hat

Jayne Evans's avatar

It was included with the first module of my studies back in 1999.

Curious Outlier's avatar

"White muscle disease in lambs, cured with selenium.

Diabetes in dogs, reversed with chromium and vanadium."

Where these plant derived minerals?

yantra's avatar

Good points, thanks Unbekoming - minerals are of course super important - i have been eating seaweed for decades. BUT minerals are not the whole story. Our electromagnetic environment has a lot to do with the decline in human health, beginning in the late 1800s with the onset of electrification in cities and the preponderance of telegraph wires.

If you haven't yet checked it out, Arthur Firstenberg's book "The Invisible Rainbow" details the connection to all the modern "diseases of civilization" : diabetes, obesity, cancer, heart disease, neurological impairment, anxiety, depression, suicide, arthritis and more.

Also, "Dirty Electricity" by Sam Milham, MD, MPH, epidemiologist, is a brief little book which lays out his discoveries of the connections between disease and EMF fields. He also mentions something we can all do to help mitigate the problem, even while living in the midst of these fields.

There are filters (made by Stetzer and by Green Wave) that can remove most of the "high voltage transients" (aka dirty electricity) that ride on the 60Hz wiring of all our buildings. This is easily verifiable in the moment by checking the fields before and after installation.

I finally put them in my house recently and am amazed at the positive changes! (i have nothing to do with either of these businesses btw). And i have been trying all kinds of mitigation for 15 years, since i actually feel this stuff. Most of the devices, etc i have tried are useless or worse. See the substacks of Paul Harding or Roman Shapoval for more info.

Jayne Evans's avatar

You'll find Unbekoming has already done a book summary of the Invisible Rainbow

yantra's avatar

thanks Jayne - i will try further to find it - somehow i am not finding a way to research his back articles.

John Pearse's avatar

Good point and certainly correct, at least for those susceptible to electromagnetic fields - most probably all humans are. Another excellent book is Joseph Mercola's a little more recent publication on "Electromagnetic Fields, 5G, Wi-Fi & Cell Phones"

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49625819-emf-d'

It took 50 years to finally bring the serious health issues caused by smoking out into the open although it was known in the 1950ies already it was harmful. EXACTLY THE SAME THING is happening with irradiating the population with continuous cellphone, WiFi and worst of all 5G radio waves day and night. And with Musk's Starlink no escaping this even outdoors! FCC a captured agency just like the rest of them. Human sacrifices always part of the plan - completely irrelevant.

A common sense thing to do at home is to disable your WiFi router at least at night with a simple clock timer (a couple of bucks at a hw store) and to hook up your notebook with an IP cable even if this is inconvenient at first

yantra's avatar

Yes, John, i agree with most of your post, and have no wireless devices in my home or car (ethernet works fine for my computer and i don't use cellphones). and you are right that big telecom is following the same playbook used by big tobacco. the main difference is they have gotten everyone to buy into their wireless devices so that most of us now feel unable to live without them and thus do not really want to know about their deleterious health effects.

Christopher Blau's avatar

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SECURED 4 ETERNITY's avatar

I have this book! If you can obtain a hard copy, get it! Read it , treasure it, because it possibly could save your life!!✝️

Martinos Gryparis's avatar

Astonishing, isnt it?

minerals are needed for electron transport, and hence life.

Some User Name's avatar

I was wondering how one would go about getting ahold of the minerals that you would need in order to replicate the results in this book. Apparently Dr. Wallach sells a mineral supplement.

https://www.majesticearth-minerals.com/majestic-earth-plant-derived-minerals-4-pack.html?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23114728201&gbraid=0AAAAAD_oOxD_4Tiim8ODkFNxQSDFuI_CC&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5abIBhCaARIsAM3-zFUHu4m0wcT3TAnOoQAp-slZp6gF5FwIC4v2Qi58uUob8RgxnKFcT6AaAofZEALw_wcB

It's not cheap. $93 for 4 bottles

Oscar's avatar

Dearer than an avoidable medical bill?

yantra's avatar

about the long lifespans and health of the Hunzas, etc. : if we are discussing a 120 yr old person now, they were born in 1905. and they were probably in a very primitive, non-electrified environment for most if not all of their lives. no fluorescent lights or LEDs. no computers, cellphones or cell towers. no vaccines in early life if at all. no pesticides. high altitude. lots of sunlight. no excess food. in other words, yes, they had glacial water with lots of valuable minerals to fertilize their crops. but they also had a lot of other different environmental conditions that cannot be replicated today.

Horsea T.'s avatar

I think you've summed it up well. We can take minerals til the cows come home, but how do we undo the electrified & wireless environment we are swimming in 24/7. Even the smallest villages are being outfitted with 5G towers, now. Somebody hates us.

Jayne Evans's avatar

Those towers are even on the Serengeti!

Horsea T.'s avatar

That is disgusting. They want to make sure there is NO PLACE for us to run away to.

This was some years ago, but I recall reading that somebody in Montreal in Canada was shooting at the 5G towers and wrecking them. LOL. Of course, they would be replaced right quick.

Barbara Charis's avatar

Totally aware of this info...Dead Doctors don't lie. . A real mistake was made, when med schools did not teach information pertaining to Hippocrates. When 90% of health problems start with what has gone into the human mouth; and doctors aren't taught nutrition; and don't learn about Hippocrates who was known for his cures...it's no wonder doctors live shorter lives than the average man My current free newsletter's subject is: Hippocrates: The Art of Medicine. The Father of Medicine and Ethics.... barbaracharis.substack.com

Curious Outlier's avatar

They weren't making mistake. They were creating an industry. The disease maintenance industry.

Barbara Charis's avatar

Agreed! Industries are into selling products ...not health

Ken MacLean's avatar

Good article. I have been using Wallach's Plant Derived Minerals since 2007. They work. But they are a preventitive, not a cure for anything.

Curious Outlier's avatar

In your interview, why does Wallach say you can't get minerals from consuming in organic minerals and then turns around and goes through how important salt which is an inorganic mineral is? What would be the key factor that makes salt easy to absorb and other minerals not so?

There is a form of inorganic mineral that can be readily utilized by the human body. The ionized mineral.

In practical terms, for nutritional and biological use, almost all essential mineral elements can be ionized during digestion or processing, allowing animals and plants to absorb them.