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Uncomfortably Numb's avatar

It would seem they have continued to 'refine' these direct energy weapons. If you look at the Paradise, CA and Lahaina 'fires', a lot of similar type anomalies with regard to burn pattterns, destruction etc.

Petra Liverani's avatar

I'd say rather than "refine" the DEWs what they've done is continue the DEW propaganda.

The "incinerated" cars on 9/11 are clearly fakeries. Scroll down to two images showing cars missing door handles and number plates indicating they are junkyard cars. Do we see any of these "incinerated" cars outside Judy Wood's alleged exposure of them? We do not. If you look at candid footage there's no incinerated cars in the vicinity.

https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=869

What is helpful to understand is the propaganda strategy.

1. They anticipated 10% or so of people would not believe their nonsense story so they had a special propaganda campaign (SPC) targeted to them.

2. The SPC included various elements:

--- "loved ones" suspicious of the official story jumping up and down fighting for justice, eg, Bob McIlvaine, the Jersey Widows, April Gallop

--- videos telling us that certain people were targeted in the buildings

--- propaganda telling us that Jewish employees were given advance notice not to come to work

--- masses of propaganda implicating Israel which serves both as distraction as well as to make more plausible the cold-blooded and callous destruction of the buildings with people inside them if OUTSIDERS did it - I KNOW this was propaganda because I swallowed it hook, line and sinker ... until I didn't

--- pushing all the focus onto the buildings (Architects & Engineers is going gangbusters while Pilots for 9/11 Truth has completely died) because the faked plane crashes aren't a great fit for all the deaths. If they faked the plane crashes then that must mean the plane passenger deaths were faked and they don't want us going anywhere near the faked plane passenger deaths ... it's a slippery slope

--- masses of propaganda on how exactly the buildings came down: mini-nukes, DEWs, nanothermite, thermite, etc. Why wouldn't they use tried and trusted methods? Why would they use methods not used before? How would they be confident they would work?

9/11 was, in reality, the biggest demolition job of all time cloaked in a massive Anti-Terror Exercise further disguised as a real terror attack. It's really not that complicated, all you have to do is recognise MASSES OF PROPAGANDA hiding that simple truth.

Lucinda's avatar

Good points Petra - I agree with you. And... one of the most suspish elements of 911 to me (unrelated to the buildings' demolitions) is the fact that the "walls of photos of dead/missing loved ones" in Manhattan went up within a day or 2 when the city was virtually closed down to everyone. Since most of the so-called 911 victims were from outside NYC - allegedly commuters to the downtown/Wall Street area - logistically, how did their families post those bio/flyers immediately on the walls in the city wIthin a couple of days?

This appears to me to be definite pre-planning on the part of the 911 co-conspirators. In addition, the later published NYTimes' bios of all the 911 victims raises the question of fraud too as who double-checked the names/bios of injuries/deaths shared w/them?

Suspish to the max that the MSM utilized the SAME (pre-made?) trauma-inducing videos shown on repeat for days & never again used many outlier videos shown initially. There were no independent, person-on-the-street real-time videos of 911 that made it to the TeeVee - only the same approved MSM videos. This was a carefully scripted ff that was conspicuously followed by all of the MSM outlets.

The firefighters' real-time oral histories documentation is an amazing resource to check out too as it was listed on many 911 truther sites initially soon after 2001 & in more recent years too. Unfortunately, sadly, so many brave cops/EMT/firefighters have succumbed to the toxic poisons from the WTC buidlng demolitions by now, thus eliminating their real-life, on-camera voices from current analysis of the event.

- FDNY 9/11 Oral Histories : FDNY - Archive.org - published 2005-08-12

https://archive.org/details/FDNY_9_11_Oral_Histories

Oral Histories from Sept. 11 compiled by the New York Fire Department

Made public on August 12, 2005 via FOIA requests made by New York Times and Russ Kick (aka MemoryHole)

New York Times article on release: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/nyregion/city-to-release-thousands-oforal-histories-of-911-today.html

New York Times release: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_02.html

Russ Kick release: https://thememoryhole2.org/blog/all-available-ny-fire-dept-dispatch-tapes-from-911

Notes - All files were downloaded directly from the NYTimes archive. There were additional missing files identified, though some were accessible via direct URL. Others remain missing entirely.

- Aug. 11, 2005 - FDNY Releases Oral Histories, Transmissions from Sept. 11 [2001] -

https://www.firehouse.com/home/news/10507465/fdny-releases-oral-histories-transmissions-from-sept-11

The 12,000 pages of oral histories were made public along with hours of Fire Department radio transmissions, their release brought on by a lawsuit filed three years ago by The New York Times and and long contested by the city....

Disclaimer by me...I fully realize that perhaps some of the testimonies could be "scripted" as we all live in a deep fake/false flag world of deception, disinfo & MSM misdirection etc. Nevertheless, many of the first-person firefighters' testimonies' clearly dispute the MSM 911 narrative, reinforce the demolitions' hypothesis re: explosions heard/witnessed & disprove other strange anomalies not explained by the MSM's promoted story-line(s).

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Completely agree with what you say about the "missing" posters. I mean, right off the bat people won't be "missing" will they? If they haven't returned home or been taken to hospital they will either be dead or under the rubble waiting for rescue or death whichever comes first.

However, I put to you that ALL the first responder testimonies are scripted, not just some. Sure, they make incriminating claims about explosions but that's DELIBERATE - these claims are intended for those who already know controlled demolition. Controlled opposition on controlled demolition!

I've written a post, Nonsensicalities in the 9/11 firefighter oral histories, and I've got into discussion with an FDNY firefighter, "Jerms", on the subject which is linked to in my analysis. Jerms started with FDNY in 2004 and is friendly with one of the guys in whose name there is a testimony - Mike Morabito. Jerms tried to tell me that Mike's testimony could be authentic ... and I'm like not it cannot be authentic because of X, Y and Z.

https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/nonsensicalities-in-the-911-firefighter

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Thnx for your link Petra. & will check our your work on the oral histories etc. Yeah, prob the firefighters were used as part of the psyop or counter-op or whatever the deliberate op was - the ME war op - so that the US could declare war on Iraq - a 911 "bait & switch".

fyi I've been looking into 911 - research on all sides - since the day after it happened as my husband narrowly escaped it. He worked downtown & walked thru the north tower ever day on the way to his work & only by a fluke of timing was early that day. Long story which I won't go into now but from the beginning I was totally suspicious of everything that Bush, the FAA, NYC/Giuliani & the rest of the govt agencies told us. As a child of the 60s, I know that the US govt/officials/politicians, city officials & mayors always cover for each other & lie to us like stinky fukn weasels about everything. Can't ever be too cynical.

My mind is changed constantly re: govt ops (including 911) by good researchers so thanks for telling me about your deep dives on the firefighters' oral histories. Much appreciated.

Petra Liverani's avatar

Interesting about your husband, Lucinda. But he should have been OK even if he'd done his usual. It really would be interesting to know if they pulled this off without any deaths or injuries. I can imagine that they pulled it off perhaps with no deaths but no injuries? It was so mammoth.

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Sorry - meant to reply to this before but had to read thru your links & then got busy. I get your point about the possibility of fake deaths as that was exactly my point with the so-called bios posted immediately of the "missing persons" on 911. It would take more time than I have to double-check the published NYT bios & compare with real or imaginary folks (& how could they be compared w/supposedly actually posted bios on those visible 911 photo walls? I wonder if there were comprehensive photos of the photo walls for posterity? Not likely.

Re: my husband, he worked across West Street where I visited him several times. I worked near Union Square at the time of 911 & after his floor was cleared out (supposedly after they were told of the north tower "plane" disaster & told to leave) he walked up to Canal Street & then took the subway to my workplace. I do believe that something happened on that day - drills/exercises/simulations - but do not believe the official story-line at all as there's too much proof of a ff.

Re: the firefighters' oral histories, I don't remember listening to audiotapes of their supposed oral histories but know that some of the audio tapes of 911 survivors were released. FYI - per history - audiotapes can also be falsified too.

Here > Oral Histories [w/audio] | National September 11 Memorial & Museum

https://www.911memorial.org/learn/resources/oral-histories

Oral Histories. The 9/11 Memorial Museum's oral history collection documents the history of 9/11 through recorded interviews with responders, survivors, 9/11 family members, and others deeply affected by the attacks at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

Anyway, I agree with most all of your points made here & in your earlier 911 investigations but disagree strongly w/some of your other "debunks" of other controversies, such as the moon landing & Dave McGowan's "Moondoggie" series etc. When I have more time I'll try to respond to those w/my analysis as I've thought long & hard about the evidence & come down on the other side.

Thnx again for the good conversation & sharing your investigations here as you've now changed my mind about the reliability of the firefighters' so-called oral histories by pointing out all the anomalies & analyzing their improbable claims.

9/11 is a giant mess's avatar

The towers falling is not important.

poetinapaperbag's avatar

WHY?

Because how they "fell" would expose the perps and the shills?

George's avatar

I worked in those buildings as an outsider but i know a large number of workers were from manhattan.

Lucinda's avatar

Petra - I've been searching info/DEW-related videos re: the 911 psyop & others & so I'm very convinced that DEWs, do, in fact, exist. There is extensive govt documentation of DEW-related uses altho it's quite possible that some of it may be misdirection or flat out lies too.

I believe the DEW capabilities are very advanced now & so they are telling us they are still experimental, etc. like most of the govt's obfuscation around issues they don't want us to know the full history or usage of or govt's pre-planning/implementation of the weapons.

Also, everyone should know/keep in mind that govts utilize tech advancements they keep secret from their citizens & never admitt to until many years or decades later... if ever.

Sept 2022 > Report to Congress on Defense Department Directed Energy Weapons

https://news.usni.org/2022/09/14/report-to-congress-on-defense-department-directed-energy-weapons

Sep 14, 2022 - The following is the Sept. 13, 2022 Congressional Research Service report, Department of Defense Directed Energy Weapons: Background and Issues for Congress.

The following is the Sept. 13, 2022 Congressional Research Service report, Department of Defense Directed Energy Weapons: Background and Issues for Congress.

From the report:

"Directed energy (DE) weapons use concentrated electromagnetic energy, rathe"r than kinetic energy, to combat enemy forces. Although the United States has been researching directed energy since the 1960s, some experts have observed that the Department of Defense (DOD) has invested billions of dollars in DE programs that failed to reach maturity and were ultimately cancelled. In recent years, however, DOD has made progress on DE weapons development, deploying the first operational U.S. DE weapon in 2014 aboard the USS Ponce. Since then, DE weapons development has continued, with DOD issuing a Directed Energy Roadmap to coordinate the department’s efforts. DOD has also introduced a High Energy Laser Scaling Initiative, which seeks to strengthen the defense industrial base for DE weapons and improve laser beam quality and efficiency."

"This report provides background information and issues for Congress on DE weapons, including high-energy lasers (HELs) and high-powered microwave (HPM) weapons, and outlines selected unclassified DOD, Air Force, Army, and Navy DE programs. If successfully fielded, HELs could be used by ground forces in a range of missions, including short-range air defense (SHORAD); counter-unmanned aircraft systems (C-UAS); and counter-rocket, artillery, and mortar (C-RAM) missions. HPM weapons could provide a nonkinetic means of disabling adversary electronics and communications systems. Compared with traditional munitions, DE weapons could offer lower logistical requirements, lower costs per shot, and—assuming access to a sufficient power supply—deeper magazines. These weapons could, however, face a number of limitations not faced by their kinetic counterparts. For example, atmospheric conditions (e.g., rain, fog, obscurants) could potentially limit the range and beam quality of DE weapons, in turn reducing their effectiveness."

'As DOD continues to invest in DE weapons, Congress may consider the weapons’ technological maturity, lifecycle cost, characteristics, mission utility, industrial base, intelligence requirements, and oversight structure. Congress may also consider the implications of DE weapons for future arms control agreements."

In addition - ICYMI "9-11, California, Australia, Maui fires and Directed Energy Weapons"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HOpZE8Xrk27P - mirrored 11 months ago [but I saw very similar DEW-related destruction/fires evidence/research/videos 6 or so years ago]

However, if you have compelling links that debunk the US govt's use of DEWs - pls share here w/us.

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You seem intent on dismissing the empirical evidence of DEWs and HOW those buildings were destroyed...

The molecular disassociation is clearly evident in the records.

Why do you continually distract from the physics of thar event and from subsequent DEW events?

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Petra Liverani's avatar

OK. Why don't you speak to me in Chat?

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I say that 9/11 was essentially a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terror Exercise pushed out as a real event: the buildings came down by a controlled means, the passenger airliner crashes were faked and death and injury were staged.

If you think that's wrong what evidence do you have against it?

George's avatar

There is no direct evidence of any DEWs in those fires at all. People don't seem to understand how fire works is what I'm learning about this.

Fire often does "odd" things when one first looks upon a site.

poetinapaperbag's avatar

Like burnt timber only around the metal fastenings?

George's avatar

That is not evidence of an energy weapon. Metal conducts heat far better than wood which is why the temperature will be different around metal fasteners. I saw a photo of a post with burn marks around the metal fasteners but the fasteners had held thinner wood strips to the wooden post. So the thinner different wood burned off leaving the fasteners in place and the post which was thicker never burned.

This is a great example of how people are pointing to something that would happen but in the photo you only get part of the story and they lead you to the wrong conclusion.

poetinapaperbag's avatar

If you are saying that radiated heat was the cause of timber scorching around metal fastenings, then you had better go back to thermodynamics 101.

This is a great example of how physics dilettantes point to something beyond their understanding.

George's avatar

Radiated heat from a cross member of wood that burned. Honestly, it's a really simple concept, fence post, with smaller wooden horizontal cross members, that burned off (fastened by nails). The cross members are thin and burn, leaving horizontal scorch marks with nails still in place.

I also took thermodynamics and it wasn't 101.

poetinapaperbag's avatar

You initially stated that "metal is a better conductor than timber"..right?

And for a conductive condition like that, the heat (fire) would have to have been in contact (conduct) with the metal and not the timber. ..right?

And to try and conflate conduct with radiation is the logic of an idiot, or a liar.

For radiated heat to heat the metal to the poin of ignition (burn the timber) the temp woud have to have been 300c or greater. ..right?

And if the metal were at 300c via radiation, then the timber would also have to have been at 300c via radiation, and the timber would have burned.

Your attemps at conflating radiation with conductivity are feeble and I suspect that they are targeted at the feeble minded.

.....Your turn professor

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George's avatar

I agree with things like 9/11 where the mechanics of what happened are complex and without the evidence -- which was cleared away quickly -- then it is impossible to solve with any certainty.

With fires, it's not as difficult. We know all the ingredients were there for a large hot raging fire without the necessity of any mythical DEWs.

9/11 is a giant mess's avatar

Hi George do you want to keep talking about it?

9/11 is a giant mess's avatar

Thank you George. My new friend Boris told me he almost didn't talk to me because of my tone and approach. Because you have replied, I want to be sure to encourage discussion.

Would you be interested in talking about 9/11? This has very little to do with the day. More of the past and the years leading to today. I can take 9/11 to 1799. 1725 for fun and 1630 if you'll give me a ship landing.

Some will use the invisible college to say 500 hundred years. But that is unprovable.

Few people respond the way you did. Politely disagreement with a tone for Future discussion.

The official story is the only thing I can't agree with. No conspiracy theory is correct. No account that pushes a theory is legit.

_At this time the most important and almost only thing important are the laws passed during that time_

I have homemade theories no one has ever heard. I feel I can disprove many. And the one thing that must be said by anyone who is serious, is it will never be solved.

Would you be interested in talking about 9/11? This has very little to do with the day. More of the past and the years leading to today.

The day itself will never be solved. There are enough NDA's and people who gain from the day, nothing new will come to light.

I say that and there was a you tube video on the last couple weeks. It has several concerns to it. Yet those will never be proven either.

poetinapaperbag's avatar

Odds On that Petra Liverani Would be here with her distractions from the realities of DEWs.

George's avatar

If you look at any burn site of anything substantial you will usually find some things that appear unusual until you understand the nature of the details of the specific fire and circumstances. Unusual burns also come from arson. There is ero evidence of DEWs.

Lucinda's avatar

Numb - fyi -Pls see my response/comment to Petra today way down below your comment here re: evidence from a DoD Report to Congresss (2022) re: DEWs use by the US military. I believe there is some misdirection in the Report (they claim DEWs are more or less still very experimental) but they do admit utilizing them as microwave weapons & military "assets".

George's avatar

Microwaves are DEWs but they are focussed beams and can't dustify concrete.

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

There are 3 issues most people have when faced with the truth regarding the events of 9/11

1. Problem solving skills

2. Group Think

3. They just can't handle the implications

Were the towers destroyed by a gravity collapse? The evidence says no.

Were the towers destroyed by explosives? The evidence says no.

Were the towers destroyed by thermite? The evidence says no.

Were the towers destroyed by nukes? The evidence says no.

The answers to these questions can easily be found by studying the evidence.

The problem is NOT a shortage of evidence.

The problem is nobody wants to LOOK at the evidence and think for themselves.

Instead, everyone wants to be TOLD WHAT TO THINK by "experts" in the MSM, alternative media, the scientific community, the government, and the "truth" movement, but these "experts" spend the whole time covering up and muddling up the evidence.

Here is a 20-minute video that most can follow: https://rumble.com/v5jnndx-understanding-the-911-evidence.html

9/11 is a giant mess's avatar

It wasn't dews or bombs or planes and it doesn't matter

RedHeadDo's avatar

WOW, just WOW! This is why Unbekoming is my one-stop shop. All topics covered. Thank you!

Tavvy's avatar

Excellent. It was the footage of the "spire" turning to dust that drifted away in the wind that really clinched it for me, but all the reasoning is impeccable, here is the evidence find a theory that fits. All the questions raised by the evidence are pertinent and important, so Petra, I disagree that the question of how is unimportant, particularly, as Dr Wood points out, the technology to do that could and should be used for the good of us and the Earth.

Gerry_O'C's avatar

...i had never heard of Judy Wood!... thanks for this indeed!... i go along with her presentation etc, she knows what she's talking about so far i can relate based on my own understanding and had done a little research in this area, not to mention the nature of apparently some personal encounters that seem to corroborate such possibilities and the likelihoods of a far reaching spectrum of associated experiences...looking forward to delving into everything u've written here, it's a blessed relief from

the reams of misleading materials 'out there' thanks again 'Unbekoming'...

MaryCW's avatar

Her book is excellent. Judy doesn't draw conclusions but points out clearly the evidence and asks the reader to question what causes such things to happen. The way the buildings came down was most definitely NOT in the way very tall buildings burn AT ALL The layers of dust that protrude outwards as each floor collapses has NOT resulted in the materials of those floors burning as a normal fire burns. So the question is what has caused the dustification. You can be sure the NSF, NASA, IARPA all know!!!! Someone mentions a tall mast dustifying too so the same question: what causes the dustification? Because we don't have answers to all of it we cannot EXCLUDE DEW's on the basis that all dew's use microwave technology which may not be correct. There may be OTHER DEW types WE are not familiar with but those US science research bodies definitely DO KNOW!!! I suspect what happened has quite a bit to do with the Hutchison effect especially as there were hurricanes out to sea that moved towards the continent during the time the towers were coming down. These could involve DEW's of a different nature to microwave energy used for crowd control in some cases. There were people who got to the ground floor and basement who looked up and instead of materials falling down on them were able to see blue sky above them through the DUST!!!

Gerry_O'C's avatar

... thanks Mary W, I'll definitely be on the lookout for that book or track it down, actually ur reply and the fact that the Maui incident had emerged in my consciousness recently prompted my doin an impromptu dive moments ago and this came up... https://www.afrl.af.mil/Portals/90/Documents/RD/Directed_Energy_Futures_2060_Final29June21_with_clearance_number.pdf ...hats off to TLAV 'cause began my search from a link there, so for all i know perhaps they had this link up already...though i think I did stumble on it, and their reporting on Maui is excellent!... https://crows.org/events/annual-convention-symposium/ ...accessed this through their link!...i have crow friends in the bird kingdom, and strangely they omitted to mention this!... it'll be an interesting topic when we catch up later!...MaryCW i meant!...

MaryCW's avatar

Thanks Gerry, I'll have to look at those links another day as it's nearly midnight and I was up early to mind my 9yo granddaughter for the day.... Exhausted right now!

Maui definitely involved DEW's probably the "heating microwave" type?? Judy says later in one of her videos that she considers there may be COLD DEW's involved in the dustification of the towers due to immediately adjacent materials to a[[arently melted metal not combusting.

Gerry_O'C's avatar

... it's all very interesting, and btw, Dane at www.geoengineeringwatch.org had emphasized an additional HAARP involvement in Maui, if i recall correctly... zerogeoengineering.com is another of my

recent finds...ur after a long day, and these days are draining MaryCW... make sure u catch up on ur sleep, we gotta get the basics right...

George's avatar

If you read the books, you'll see how many assumptions she makes. Bad ones.

Gerry_O'C's avatar

...thanks!...i'll keep that in mind!...

George's avatar

I'm writing comments further down chapter by chapter. I suggest you read chapter 3 to see how many bad assumptions are made.

George's avatar

Trolls don't discuss specifics, like your posts.

MaryCW's avatar

As the video hosted by Andrew Johnson https://rumble.com/v45v1sw-who-is-dr-judy-wood.html indicates Judy Wood's book has 500 pages of descriptions of EVIDENCE. At NO STAGES DOES SHE DRAW CONCLUSIONS!

George's avatar

The book has a lot more than evidence. It has a lot of assumptions upon which a bunch of the conclusions are based. It's these that are pretty brutal IMO.

MaryCW's avatar

She only assumptions in the potential for particular technologies to be able to discuss them, SHE DOES NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS in or leading to ANY CONCLUSIONS. You are a troll unless you really think that...

George's avatar

See comment above.

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Wikipedia's block listed 9/11 scientist.

Cancelled by Wikipedia for 14 years and counting.

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/wikipedias-block-listed-911-scientist

Gerry_O'C's avatar

...thanks for this, appreciated indeed, i haven't gone much into this yet, and maybe never, my first impression of the fist clip of the 9/11 i watched, in the company of someone, the day of it's occurence, had us both immediately turning towards one another in disbelief of the accompanying narrative, and the impossibility of the reality of the visuals...

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Here is a 3h crash course of understanding what happened and the technology involved to make it happen.

9/11 was an attack on human consciousness, a trauma based mind control event.

Watch: 9/11 Alchemy - Facing Reality

Rumble Link: https://rumble.com/v42pr22-911-alchemy-facing-reality.html

YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/CrzNeZUp0tU

Gerry_O'C's avatar

...thanks for ur trouble, Revsionist…noted, i’ll repost these links later including ur SS…i’m goin down other frustrating rabbit holes… actually, i’d been recently tryin to recall the name of Judy Wood…so ur earlier reply was timely, bringing me right into the article… the etheric connections are useful!…

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Then I'll suggest you also check out this documentary...

It's the 3rd documentary in a series of 3 x 9/11 Alchemy documentaries.

9/11 Alchemy - A Big Idea

Link: https://rumble.com/v4irvwr-911-alchemy-a-big-idea.html

A 20-year memorial documentary produced by Chris Hampton, dedicated to exposing the real truth about what happened on 9/11 by referencing interesting numerological symbology..

Gerry_O'C's avatar

...thanks, will do... btw, in the meantime i accessed this online book, borrowed... https://archive.org/details/meditationmantra00vish/page/56/mode/1up ... u ought to find the chapters on Japa Meditation Theory and Practice of real interest...i had the privilege in the early 'nineties of sharing a small space room for several minutes with the Swami...i'd been in there, alone, and he arrived and was thrust in there for several minutes... we shared our mutual moments, at Chepstow Villas, Notting Hill,... i recall the experience...surprised to read of relatively recent accusations against him...in fact i can provide u at some time soon very interesting material related to this idea of sound from a personal experience in 2012...

MaryCW's avatar

Wikipedia is MAINSTREAM. You cannot trust any mainstream news sources relating to science (and much more).

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Wikipedia is infiltrated by many government's intelligence agencies, as per the co-founder of wiki. He said wiki is compromised.

If you read my article, you will find the point I'm making is that we have proof from Wikipedia moderators that Dr Judy Wood is on a BLOCK LIST, when it comes to the evidence she presents, since 2010.

I highly recommend you watch her 2012 presentation of evidence on what happened on 9/11 - Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWNzq9OWGmY

The only two brave souls that tried to take on the US Government in 2007, that the 9/11 "truth" movement is keeping hidden.

Read their court filings.

Dr Morgan Reynolds: https://nomoregames.net/2011/06/12/request-for-correction-by-nist-for-its-invalid-wtc-jetliner-animations-and-analyses/

Dr Judy Wood: https://www.drjudywood.com/wp/court-case-qui-tam/

9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-truth-suppression-timeline

Politico Phil's avatar

How many times have I looked at video/photographic evidence of 9/11 and realized my lying eyes didn't see what was right in front of me? I'm too embarrassed to count.

Lucinda's avatar

Phil - My suspicions were raised ON 911 (I was working in NYC then) when all of the news sources were showing the very SAME videos over & over. We know that the MSM is actually the Mockingbird press now, but even so, utilizing all the same videos seemed counter-intuitive.

In addition, the UK's BBC reporting on the destruction of the WTC Building 7 BEFORE it actually was demolished in the US argues points clearly to foreknowledge & jumping the 911 shark.

Jane Stanley BBC reports on 911 [20min before building 7 was blown up] that it [Building 7] had collapsed - https://www.bitchute.com/video/LFCbNlNUSRza - Eagle of freedom -

mirrored 8 months ago

It boggled my mind then (& still now) that anyone would believe so-called competitive news/TV sources wouldn't have their own 911 reporter videos & variations on the downtown videos themselves, & yet they were all in 911 "lockstep" showing the (now clearly faked) same videos.

Where have we heard that term "lockstep"in recent years? During C19 scam-demic perhaps?

Timothy Winey's avatar

Excellent! I love Judy too!

Greg_In_Oz's avatar

Right there with you … I recall a presentation some years ago (might have been her) pointing out the enormous dust cloud and the apparent disintegration of the building as it collapsed, which made absolutely no sense to me. The one thing I do know is that the official story (and especially the NIST report) is an absolute joke. Don’t even get me started on Tower 7.

George's avatar

Most demolished tall structures collapse into a small pile of debris with a lot of dust. That is not unusual.

I agree completely that the NIST report was incomplete and inaccurate, largely because the evidence was never made available for examination. It was carted off and disposed off almost immediately, and no one was able to do a proper investigation. That alone is suspicious.

However, I believe the collapses themselves are not as suspicious as people think. The buildings had a very unique construction so direct comparisons to other buildings is not valid. I don't find Dr Wood's theories credible.

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

There are 3 issues most people have when faced with the truth regarding the events of 9/11

1. Problem solving skills

2. Group Think

3. They just can't handle the implications

Controlled Demolition Expert Speaks Out!

What we saw on 9/11 was not due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/controlled-demolition-expert-speaks

Gecko1's avatar

Here's the best all-round documentary on 911 referencing Dr Wood's findings, made by a Canadian guy:-

https://rumble.com/v1jmt6g-911-where-did-the-towers-go.html

GerdaVS's avatar

I have read all comments and the many heated opinions. MS Wood did not know about Lahaina and Paradise at the time of writing and also there we saw buildings which turned to dust. A lot is said about the different structure of those two Manhattan buildings but one thing they had in common with all other buildings: they had plenty of restrooms. Restrooms have porcelain furniture and porcelain does not burn in a fire. There should have been hundreds of them on the ground.

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Wikipedia's block listed 9/11 scientist.

Cancelled by Wikipedia for 14 years and counting.

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/wikipedias-block-listed-911-scientist

EK MtnTime's avatar

Wow! This. Definitely a light bulb moment! Thanks for the info! It was one thing to know the towers were were brought down by our government to cover up the trail of their corruption and theft of billions that belonged to all US citizens but absolutely terrifying to know the power by which they were destroyed.

I have been reading of the intensity of weather and storms, mostly in the mid-continent, being brought on by a similar directed energy power. Same goes for the intensity of hurricanes. Since the midsection of the U.S. is solidly conservative, it has been suggested that Empire/Cabal/Elite are causing intense storms and flooding rain as payback for the wrong politics.

God help us all!

Mark Peterson's avatar

Amazing!

Tami Berman's avatar

another substack deals with all the evidence, great links to other videos, https://substack.com/home/post/p-146928086, https://rumble.com/v42pr22-911-alchemy-facing-reality.html

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Thanx for linking to my substack...

Wikipedia's block listed 9/11 scientist.

Cancelled by Wikipedia for 14 years and counting.

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/wikipedias-block-listed-911-scientist

Kathlean J Keesler's avatar

Thank you.

Gecko1's avatar

Here's Dr Wood's most recent podcast interview from late last year: https://rumble.com/v3xh3w8-tcrp-episode-91-dr.-judy-wood-reaches-out.html

Or audio podcast only, listen here: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-collective/dr-judy-wood-reaches-out-kYwqi_g1aKV/

Great to see and hear from Dr Judy again.

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Wikipedia's block listed 9/11 scientist.

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The Man’s Child's avatar

Whoa. This will take some time to consider.

Pirate Studebaker's avatar

This quote from Joanna Maciejewska sums up why I wish you would stop it with the AI "art".

"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes."

Antihuman. Get it yet?

Bird's Brain's avatar

Completely agree. Plus, since most artists are "starving," throwing them a bone wouldn't hurt.

Pirate Studebaker's avatar

When I see this kind of continual usage of "AI art", I question everything this "person" is fronting. Is any of this real? Is it all just AI tomfoolery? A mechanized joke?

Is this substack written by AI or a person?

I have brought this issue up repeatedly on this substack and have yet to receive a single response.

If the usage of "AI art" continues all human artists will starve and become extinct.

Bird's Brain's avatar

I enjoy this Substack and find it valuable.

Many people aren't aware that AI uses all kinds of art to produce the finished product, including copyright art without the original artist receiving any credit or remuneration. That's what I object to. AI does the same with writing. I'm surprised so many writers use AI art to illustrate their work when AI violates their copyright as well.

Pirate Studebaker's avatar

Many things written by AI are enjoyable and valuable as well as things written by people.

Though I understand, that's not the point. The point is - if living people continue to use and accept AI generated "art" we will find ourselves co-opted one day and living artists will not exist.

Willing participation in the usurping of living creativity by machines is questionable to me. Not only for copyright or legal issues, but for a deeper more fundamental takeover of what is inherently alive.

I look at the illustrations used on this substack and they are dead. There is nothing alive about them. There is nothing intrinsically beautiful or inspirational or of any worth at all to me. They are dead and I question someone who uses dead mechanical images to illustrate what they claim to be living creativity.

Bird's Brain's avatar

We agree. I was merely making the point that I enjoy this Substack.

Copyright is meant to protect living creativity. It irks that AI is exempt from these laws. Writers need to understand that their original human creativity is also under attack in this same way. It would be good if they recognized that using AI art encourages copyright infringement.

9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Wikipedia's block listed 9/11 scientist.

Cancelled by Wikipedia for 14 years and counting.

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/wikipedias-block-listed-911-scientist