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Timothy Winey's avatar

If EV's don't burn you alive, they'll kill you by virtue of the large alternating magnetic fields they produce. Jack Kruse can't even go into a Tesla dealership. The security guards give him and his Tesla Meter the 'bum's rush' to the curb!

https://www.amazon.com/Body-Electric-Electromagnetism-Foundation-Life/dp/0688069711

Jan's avatar

A great way to lock citizens into 15 minute cities. Their cars c@nt go far so why bother. You will be allowed only so many miles anyway in any vehicle but EVs are ready made for human lockdown.

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

The total costs are obviously much higher, and how this point escapes the enthusiasts is beyond me. Somehow, the psychopaths continue to grow this idea, another inconvenient and costly wrench they are throwing into our efficiency and wealth. Fantastic post.

CM Maccioli's avatar

Loved this article, especially the 1st line. My son came to me (as he was in awe of that fake-out genius Musk) and said he was saving up for, and his next car would be, a Tesla. And charge it where, I asked. Then said he would have a charger installed in his garage. At what cost I asked. Did you know that you would have to upgrade to a new model before 5 years is up? No, he said. That's a running car payment for the rest of your life, I said. Other than paying off a mortgage, what could be better than zero car payments, I asked. Haven't heard a word since. Think I'll just mosey on this article to him.

Loretta's avatar

Nothing like connect the dots. Hahah good work CM.

Cristina7's avatar

Also, if you travel in a Tesla, on a hot summer day, the glass ceiling gets so hot it makes your brain boil. We were in a Tesla UBER in Lisbon, last summer, for less than 30 minutes, and I felt si sick when I came back. And I used to love Teslas and their 0-100km/h time.

klimer's avatar

Add in the fact that enclosed parking garages are starting to exclude EVs, due to the inability to control a fire and the resultant insurance implications. And the fact that EV Semis have shut down freeways for hours (like half a day!), since you have to wait for the fire to burn itself out - and that means one side of the freeway gets shut down, and the other side slows to a crawl as everyone gawks at the spectacle.

If EVs have a future, it needs to be without the safety issues surrounding lithium.

Deborah Penner's avatar

Please do a deep dive on the EMF exposure from EVs as well as from the charging stations. I've heard a charging station in someone's garage is zapping people 4-5 houses away with unhealthy amounts of EMF. True?

NucMedNinja's avatar

Aftermarket sales of the batteries pose a risk for all of us, as people snatch them up for off grid storage. Li batteries are unsafe. Full stop. There is no way to put out the fires. They must burn themselves out.

https://youtu.be/AIXTP-TgPEw?si=p0MFdKp5e7B5l2qr

David Snell's avatar

What about the weight of the EV compared with ICE vehicles and the additional damage they do to roads plus the cost of their tyres?

CK's avatar

I bought an EV many years ago and still have it. It’s a lot of fun and we use it on the weekends for running errands. It’s super convenient and I like the fact that I can home charge and it’s always got “a full tank”.

I agree with a lot of what you presented, particularly the problems with mining materials for the batteries. I got my EV because it is fun to drive and, working from home I don’t drive much. I’ve only charged it from home and we have other ICE vehicles for longer trips. EV’s can be good options for some people but they are definitely not some sort of “solution”.

Crixcyon's avatar

What else isn't the government telling us? Everything. Without subsidies and perks, EVs go the way of the dino and I say good riddance.

David Westerlund's avatar

This article has many lies. The "savior" is Plug-in hybrids that run on gas & electric. I'm on my 4th plug-in going first from a Toyota Prius 2011 to 3 Chevrolet Volts 2012/2017/2019. Regretfully, Chevrolet stopped the Volt in 2019. BYD in China builds similar.

EV's show MPGe. The reason for this: IF you gave the gallon of fuel for your ICE (internal combustion engine) car that gets 30 MPG to the electric company, they are able to use that fuel to generate enough electricity to run an equivalent EV 60 to 100 miles i.e. 100 MPGe. For 50 years of my life, I worked at different power companies that burned coal, oil, natural gas.

I am an auto enthusiast. There is a design for a plug-in car the size of a model 3 Tesla that could go NYC to LA at 60 MPH in 3-4 days on less than 35 gallons of fuel. It would have a 35 HP engine and 100 HP motor (electric) and still be able to climb the "Grapevine" north of LA at 60 mph.

Your intelligent comments will be welcomed

William Voelz's avatar

Local tire supplier let me ride in a customers RIVIAN pickup around the block. Incredible acceleration. Quiet. Beautiful interior. Etc. For my tire dealer friend they are a Godsend: they eat tires at an incredible rate!! He loves his EV customers. All other issues? I want gasoline !! But thanks for your post.

PS No such thing as “fossil fuel”. My geology professor decades ago, 1969, outlined the source for OIL. And it ain’t animal and vegetable! Peak Oil? Same BS.

David Westerlund's avatar

Tires: I gave my old Volts to my son. Very VERY few pass him on interstates. Tires go over 60,000 miles.

Oil: I agree with you on "...source for OIL." I'm only saying much better fuel mileage with Plug-in hybrids and less pollution.

William Voelz's avatar

Got it. Referring to 100% battery beasts.

gerard's avatar

Definitely would add weight as a major issue. +50%

Al Christie's avatar

The first 3 points, on charging time vs gas fillup, are very interesting. Separate pipes from underground gas tanks to each pump so no slow-down during busy times. I was familiar with the other points, but would add that I personally wouldn't park an EV in my garage, even though the spontaneous fires are rare. And if I owned a parking garage, I wouldn't allow EVs in it.

Larry Whitt's avatar

Last year I rented a Tesla for a week on a business trip. Loved it started researching Tesla’s bought a new updated model three this year and will never go back. If you’ve never driven one, then I understand I have 300 miles of range every morning, which means I never stop for gas. I put a splitter on my clothes dryer and every night at 11 my car goes to 100%. and I never thought I would have this much fun at 70 driving and going on road trips with my wife who loves it just as much. She also prefers full self driving and says it drives better than me. Can argue with that I do drive a little faster now because I can just wanted to get a different perspective in the comments

Some User Name's avatar

Do you live where the temperatures are mild? I live near Chicago Illinois, where winters get really cold. Last year many electric vehicles were stranded because the cars wouldn't charge correctly and some people ran out of charge on the road, because it took so much energy to run the heater, that it depleted the battery

LisaR's avatar

I read through this thank you. Seems that chat gp and the Who want us to conclude that EVs are likely safe because they don’t emit more electromagnetic energy than a microwave. However, who sits on top of a running microwave oven for an hour or more a day? Who straps their child on top of one and thinks that fine too?

CM Maccioli's avatar

Good points. I got rid of my microwave years ago. Haven't missed it one iota.