I went to the er and found out I had a gallstones the size of a peach pit that was causing pain. Anna Kroegers teachings from CO saved my g.b.
Warm lemon juice first thing in the morning and everytime before you eat a meal. 100% apple juice , I drank 3 glasses a day. Within 2 days the pain was easing and a week no pain at all. That was 4 years ago and I still drink lemon juice in the morning and I have not had any issues since
For what it is worth, Dr. John Bergman had dissected hundreds or thousands of gallstones. He found that all contained significant amounts of stress hormones. Whether the stress hormones were caused by unnatural fats is a good question. If so, those unnatural fats and the resultant stress hormones are likely having undesired effects in other parts of the body.
In 2014 I overate my kids' leftover pies and other junk food, and the pain I was feeling in my gallbladder area was so intense that I drove myself to the ER. After a night at the hospital on morphine, two young doctors made their pitch to remove my gallbladder the next day, but I refused. I asked them why would the gallbladder not be needed if it's in our bodies. I didn't get a good answer. They just told me that millions of these surgeries occur every year without any problems! The Sentara doctor I visited later put me on ciprofloxacin, which I didn't know was one of the most powerful, nerve damaging antibiotics- why would she put me on this when I was rarely ever on antibiotics? I stopped taking that on my third or fourth day, after learning about its dangers. Then I started to realize that there are millions of surgeries every year to remove body parts: kidneys, appendices, tonsils, wisdom teeth, breasts, knees, hips, etc. That ER wake up call made me change my diet, and I've been doing good mostly, since I don't want to go through that pain!
I wonder if Cowan et al tried just animal fat without the drama of everything raw. Raw cream sounds fine, but I don’t like the proscription on cooked meat and I wonder if he had patients try it this way.
Think it can. Had a co-worker decades ago in my twenties (she was also) suddenly have a burst appendix with no previous issue. She was rushed to the er and made it through but I believe that was a major concern.
I have had a 17mm calcified gallstone for many years now. When I went totally carnivor and ate copeous amounts of mostly cooked animal fat my gallbladder attacks went away completely. As soon as carbs were reintroduced I started having the attacks and now they are frequent again. I will definitely be trying the raw fat approach as I'm just about to cave and get my gallbladder out.
Good luck. Amazing how little "science" today knows about gallstone formation causations and the possibilities for dissolving. I was advised to take the tincture for at least 90 days, the typical time to regrow a liver damaged by the bile blockage and also to take for 90 days bovine bile salts/acids by mouth in capsules to get bile to the stomach past the bile duct stone blockage which had caused my skin to turn yellow. And, by trial and error have leaned 1-2x a year to take a course of something like milkthistle, burdock root, and/or chanca piedra tincture as a prophy until I can figure out from diet/lifestyle, etc. why I got a gallstone and a year later another one.
I’m several weeks into taking the chanca piedra/bile salts combo to treat what I suspect, based on symptoms, was a bile duct blocked by a stone.
I was very close to caving and going to a doctor for what would have very likely led to gallbladder surgery. I was jaundiced, had barely been able to eat anything for over two weeks, and had consistent pains in my side.
I can’t afford the financial burden of the doctor and surgery bills (I have insurance, but it’s not worth a darn) and I also have no desire to place myself at the mercy of the medical system, but I was getting desperate.
I saw your comment and decided to give it a try. Started feeling relief almost immediately from using the bile salts, my regular skin and eye color started returning within a week, and I was gradually able to return to eating normally within a few weeks. Definitely going to continue both supplements for the full 90 days and then evaluate from there.
This is valuable information — both for the layman to know that there are low cost and low risk alternatives to major surgery, and to the medical system it is valuable to suppress such information, lest people like me treat themselves and avoid thousands or tens of thousands in billing.
You’re very welcome. Amazing, isn’t it how fast skin and eye color as well as appetite return to normal by swallowing bile salts/acids. Doctors wanted to put me in a hospital overnight and allow nothing by mouth, then send me to an operating room for two big surgeries (a look/see, then a slice n’ dice at $100,000s each) but given I had no pain, I decided I had time to get a second opinion away from the pill & scalpel schools of medicine and to “do my own research” because my gut screamed at me this could be fixed non-surgically since the stone slowly grew, thus I started with getting bile to the stomach by mouth and something to dissolve slowly the stone. At month 4 after tapering off the meds for 2.5 weeks, I took a blood test to be sure liver was fine. Good luck!
As a Certified (Michael Moore) ClinicalHerbalist, I also have people get a liquid extract of wild yam root, an antispasmodic. Helps those stones to pass right out when used properly.
I am not a medical professional nor do I have an idea what ‘real’ stones look like under a scope. I have, however, done several oil&lemon cleanses and recovered some of the larger stones to cut and view under a scope and I can say it is unlikely they are congealed oil.
In the book "Liver Rescue" by Anthony William. Chapter 32 extensively explains Gallstones and other gallbladder issues. Liver Rescue is my favorite book of the 8-book (9 with the most recent audio-only book) Medical Medium Series.
Thinking further about this article. How are gall stones recognised/diagnosed? Where in the body is the pain? Where in the body is the pain of kidney stones too for that matter?
The gallbladder is high in your abdomen. It's above your stomach (to one side), just under one lobe of the liver. The pain is in that area. Kidney pain generaly manifests as lowe back pain, near the waist.
Totally agree the medics have everything wrong. However, I do question the idea that the body needs cholesterol in the diet. When it doesn't receive that, it makes its own. It never has a deficiency. It's also important to get out of the idea of focusing on one area of the body, as the medics do. We are a whole unit, with everything functioning in harmony. Gall stones are just ne area the body is telling us it needs help.
Gallstones are heavily influenced by a specific microbiome, particularly a dysbiosis in the gut and bile duct that promotes stone formation. Key bacterial contributors, including Escherichia, Salmonella, and Helicobacter, can thrive in the biliary tract, changing bile composition and forming biofilm-related, pigmented stones. Bacterial communities also influence cholesterol saturation, with genera like Clostridium and Bacteroides involved in bile acid metabolism. [1, 2, 3]
Key Aspects of the Gallstone Biome:
• Dysbiosis & Microbes: Gallstone disease (GSD) patients often show reduced microbial diversity, with an overgrowth of Proteobacteria.
• Biofilm Formation: Bacteria often live inside the gallstones, where they create a protective biofilm (using glycocalyx) that acts as an anchoring factor for brown pigment stones.
• Metabolic Impact: Bacteria in the bile produce enzymes (such as $\beta$-glucuronidase and phospholipase) that hydrolyze conjugated bilirubin and phospholipids, causing them to precipitate into calcium salts (brown stones).
• Specific Microbiota:
• Gallstone/Bile: Clostridiales and Eubacterium coprostanoligenes are often found within the stones.
• Bile Duct/Gallbladder: Desulfovibrionales, Rhodobacteraceae, and oral cavity bacteria like Fusobacterium and Veillonella are commonly present.
• Fungal Presence (Mycobiome): The gallbladder contains a distinct fungal community, with taxa like Colletotrichum and Epicoccum found to be enriched in gallstones. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
A healthy microbiome helps maintain proper bile acid metabolism, while a disrupted (dysbiotic) microbiome contributes to the supersaturation of cholesterol. [1, 9]
plant‑derived products are most effective at preventing biofilm formation via QS inhibition, but some also disrupt mature biofilms by targeting EPS and structural proteins.
Flavonoids and phenolic compounds emerge as the most consistently effective antibiofilm phytochemicals across diverse taxa, with alkaloids and triterpenoids providing complementary QS and adhesion‑targeted actions
I think there are other factors like not moving enough so the lymphatics and organs aren't flowing.
Chinese medicine would call it stuck qi.
Vibration is also helpful and tapping on key areas all over the body helps a lot.
Here's a good lymphatic massage. It can also be applied to the liver and other areas.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lT_wW5pNHa4
There's also a good Qigong inspired exercise to help the body flow better.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XnTdBnKWjNw
I went to the er and found out I had a gallstones the size of a peach pit that was causing pain. Anna Kroegers teachings from CO saved my g.b.
Warm lemon juice first thing in the morning and everytime before you eat a meal. 100% apple juice , I drank 3 glasses a day. Within 2 days the pain was easing and a week no pain at all. That was 4 years ago and I still drink lemon juice in the morning and I have not had any issues since
Lemon juice quickly alkalises us, allowing the body to function properly.
For what it is worth, Dr. John Bergman had dissected hundreds or thousands of gallstones. He found that all contained significant amounts of stress hormones. Whether the stress hormones were caused by unnatural fats is a good question. If so, those unnatural fats and the resultant stress hormones are likely having undesired effects in other parts of the body.
Very interesting. Almost a homeopathic approach - "like cures like".
In 2014 I overate my kids' leftover pies and other junk food, and the pain I was feeling in my gallbladder area was so intense that I drove myself to the ER. After a night at the hospital on morphine, two young doctors made their pitch to remove my gallbladder the next day, but I refused. I asked them why would the gallbladder not be needed if it's in our bodies. I didn't get a good answer. They just told me that millions of these surgeries occur every year without any problems! The Sentara doctor I visited later put me on ciprofloxacin, which I didn't know was one of the most powerful, nerve damaging antibiotics- why would she put me on this when I was rarely ever on antibiotics? I stopped taking that on my third or fourth day, after learning about its dangers. Then I started to realize that there are millions of surgeries every year to remove body parts: kidneys, appendices, tonsils, wisdom teeth, breasts, knees, hips, etc. That ER wake up call made me change my diet, and I've been doing good mostly, since I don't want to go through that pain!
Thank you for your wonderful work.
I wonder if Cowan et al tried just animal fat without the drama of everything raw. Raw cream sounds fine, but I don’t like the proscription on cooked meat and I wonder if he had patients try it this way.
What is appendicitis and what types of cure are suggested? Does a burst appendix result in peritonitis?
Look up information by Dr. John R. Christopher.
Think it can. Had a co-worker decades ago in my twenties (she was also) suddenly have a burst appendix with no previous issue. She was rushed to the er and made it through but I believe that was a major concern.
I have had a 17mm calcified gallstone for many years now. When I went totally carnivor and ate copeous amounts of mostly cooked animal fat my gallbladder attacks went away completely. As soon as carbs were reintroduced I started having the attacks and now they are frequent again. I will definitely be trying the raw fat approach as I'm just about to cave and get my gallbladder out.
Consider chanca piedra (stonebreaker) tincture, drink as drops in water once a day. That cleared a 12mm gallstone I had within 90 days.
Thanks, I will try it, I have used the chanca piedra capsules before but have never tried the drops.
Good luck. Amazing how little "science" today knows about gallstone formation causations and the possibilities for dissolving. I was advised to take the tincture for at least 90 days, the typical time to regrow a liver damaged by the bile blockage and also to take for 90 days bovine bile salts/acids by mouth in capsules to get bile to the stomach past the bile duct stone blockage which had caused my skin to turn yellow. And, by trial and error have leaned 1-2x a year to take a course of something like milkthistle, burdock root, and/or chanca piedra tincture as a prophy until I can figure out from diet/lifestyle, etc. why I got a gallstone and a year later another one.
Thank you!
I’m several weeks into taking the chanca piedra/bile salts combo to treat what I suspect, based on symptoms, was a bile duct blocked by a stone.
I was very close to caving and going to a doctor for what would have very likely led to gallbladder surgery. I was jaundiced, had barely been able to eat anything for over two weeks, and had consistent pains in my side.
I can’t afford the financial burden of the doctor and surgery bills (I have insurance, but it’s not worth a darn) and I also have no desire to place myself at the mercy of the medical system, but I was getting desperate.
I saw your comment and decided to give it a try. Started feeling relief almost immediately from using the bile salts, my regular skin and eye color started returning within a week, and I was gradually able to return to eating normally within a few weeks. Definitely going to continue both supplements for the full 90 days and then evaluate from there.
This is valuable information — both for the layman to know that there are low cost and low risk alternatives to major surgery, and to the medical system it is valuable to suppress such information, lest people like me treat themselves and avoid thousands or tens of thousands in billing.
Again, thank you.
You’re very welcome. Amazing, isn’t it how fast skin and eye color as well as appetite return to normal by swallowing bile salts/acids. Doctors wanted to put me in a hospital overnight and allow nothing by mouth, then send me to an operating room for two big surgeries (a look/see, then a slice n’ dice at $100,000s each) but given I had no pain, I decided I had time to get a second opinion away from the pill & scalpel schools of medicine and to “do my own research” because my gut screamed at me this could be fixed non-surgically since the stone slowly grew, thus I started with getting bile to the stomach by mouth and something to dissolve slowly the stone. At month 4 after tapering off the meds for 2.5 weeks, I took a blood test to be sure liver was fine. Good luck!
How many drops of the tincture in a glass of water?
The bottles I've bought said 15 drops. First time used it I ramped up to full dose over 3 days.
Thank you for another fascinating article!
As a Certified (Michael Moore) ClinicalHerbalist, I also have people get a liquid extract of wild yam root, an antispasmodic. Helps those stones to pass right out when used properly.
I am not a medical professional nor do I have an idea what ‘real’ stones look like under a scope. I have, however, done several oil&lemon cleanses and recovered some of the larger stones to cut and view under a scope and I can say it is unlikely they are congealed oil.
Nonetheless, great article.
In the book "Liver Rescue" by Anthony William. Chapter 32 extensively explains Gallstones and other gallbladder issues. Liver Rescue is my favorite book of the 8-book (9 with the most recent audio-only book) Medical Medium Series.
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Thinking further about this article. How are gall stones recognised/diagnosed? Where in the body is the pain? Where in the body is the pain of kidney stones too for that matter?
The gallbladder is high in your abdomen. It's above your stomach (to one side), just under one lobe of the liver. The pain is in that area. Kidney pain generaly manifests as lowe back pain, near the waist.
Totally agree the medics have everything wrong. However, I do question the idea that the body needs cholesterol in the diet. When it doesn't receive that, it makes its own. It never has a deficiency. It's also important to get out of the idea of focusing on one area of the body, as the medics do. We are a whole unit, with everything functioning in harmony. Gall stones are just ne area the body is telling us it needs help.
Gallstones are heavily influenced by a specific microbiome, particularly a dysbiosis in the gut and bile duct that promotes stone formation. Key bacterial contributors, including Escherichia, Salmonella, and Helicobacter, can thrive in the biliary tract, changing bile composition and forming biofilm-related, pigmented stones. Bacterial communities also influence cholesterol saturation, with genera like Clostridium and Bacteroides involved in bile acid metabolism. [1, 2, 3]
Key Aspects of the Gallstone Biome:
• Dysbiosis & Microbes: Gallstone disease (GSD) patients often show reduced microbial diversity, with an overgrowth of Proteobacteria.
• Biofilm Formation: Bacteria often live inside the gallstones, where they create a protective biofilm (using glycocalyx) that acts as an anchoring factor for brown pigment stones.
• Metabolic Impact: Bacteria in the bile produce enzymes (such as $\beta$-glucuronidase and phospholipase) that hydrolyze conjugated bilirubin and phospholipids, causing them to precipitate into calcium salts (brown stones).
• Specific Microbiota:
• Gallstone/Bile: Clostridiales and Eubacterium coprostanoligenes are often found within the stones.
• Bile Duct/Gallbladder: Desulfovibrionales, Rhodobacteraceae, and oral cavity bacteria like Fusobacterium and Veillonella are commonly present.
• Fungal Presence (Mycobiome): The gallbladder contains a distinct fungal community, with taxa like Colletotrichum and Epicoccum found to be enriched in gallstones. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
A healthy microbiome helps maintain proper bile acid metabolism, while a disrupted (dysbiotic) microbiome contributes to the supersaturation of cholesterol. [1, 9]
AI responses may include mistakes.
[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10037248/
[2] https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2607/8/6/835
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw3ot1M_o0
[4] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7356158/
[5] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24083370/
[6] https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/microbiology/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2023.1131694/full
[7] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40168-019-0712-8
[8] https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/175667-overview
[9] https://gemhospitals.com/blog/microbiome-influence-gallbladder-function-bile-production
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plant‑derived products are most effective at preventing biofilm formation via QS inhibition, but some also disrupt mature biofilms by targeting EPS and structural proteins.
Flavonoids and phenolic compounds emerge as the most consistently effective antibiofilm phytochemicals across diverse taxa, with alkaloids and triterpenoids providing complementary QS and adhesion‑targeted actions
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37499434/