Up until 15yrs ago all my fogs had the recommended shots, and conventional dog food. Biscuits, and wet food, the best vet science that money could buy. All of my dogs died before their time from illness and cancers.
My current dog, eats human grade meat, leftovers, veges, rarely has biscuits and has no vaccinations. He's doing very. Nicely at 12yrs and still runs around like a puppy. Vets have known far longer than the rest of medicine, how toxic the shots and food is, partially why they have eclipsed dentists in suicide rates.😐🤫
I imagine a family sitting around the dinner table, parents eating a steak, baked potato and a Caesar salad, giving their children a bowl of pretzels, as the baby gets a bottle of formula. Every night for the rest of their young lives. A bowl of pretzels. Good parents right, after all, the kids can eat as many pretzels as they want to stave off hunger, so the parents are taking good care of their children. They're not going hungry. The parents don't notice the lethargy, dark circles under eyes or the gray complexion and rotten teeth, that's normal right?
Now, times that by 10 or 100 for dogs who live by smell, can hear thunder coming from the next town over, and sits in the kitchen as your cooking and imagines you'll share those wonderful cooking smells with him. Maybe you'll throw him a speck of meat atop that bowl of shit he knows is the only meal he'll get from you. And what do you get for that "generosity"?
Complete love, devotion and protection as that little fella sits by your feet and looks up at you with a love rarely seen by others in your life. Think about that.
Before everyone berates Strombeck and piles on criticism for his oil choices and a few others, pls remember it is an older book. Our knowledge has shifted. This was sorta revolutionary when he wrote it. I regularly get responses that people feel totally inadequate to be able to feed their pets on their own. That they have to follow an expert.
He only published one edition and when the editors came back to him and wanted to do another one, he said no thank you. He was near the end of his career and would rather get the information out on the Internet for more to have access to it then make money off a second book.
The publisher still chose to do a second edition with a different author. I have no idea if it is a good book or not. If the original history is in or got buried.
Yes!! Love to see Strombeck getting press. This makes my Monday complete. He has a couple of buddies also fighting the good fight and more than likely nearing retirement or completely done.
I found them while looking for Strombeck after a friend shared his book with me. She had a dog with serial health issues and drugs etc, etc with no solution until she found Strombeck. This is a good decade ago.
The friend wrote to him while he was still on staff and he wrote back. That dog had shiny fur, clear eye and good demeanor—the hallmarks of systemic health. I am forever grateful to her for her sharing of Strombeck.
It has been tragic watching animals suffer.
Vets gaslight just like people MDs. And we all have had enough of the BS. The 4 legged furry critters thank you for getting the word out.
I agree, and I haven't looked at the recipes yet, but but read most of the article, and looked over the book and noticed there are couple things mentioned that are high oxalate, like potatoes and beet mash. Dogs, like humans, are all different, so I imagine several things might be adjusted per specific animal. I am getting ahead of myself with this condiering I haven't looked at the recipes yet, but I will be working around the oxalates, and likely replace the 'canola oil' with olive oil, coconut oil, and some fermented cod liver oil. This book appears to me to be a good basis to build on. The dog and I both get some EV olive oil daily per the Steven Gundrey theory.
I never feed my dogs commercial food despite vets pushing these onto me. In Australia I feed the dogs diced kangaroo, leftovers, veggies and very few snacks. No vaccinations. Owen was 14 before he passed away. The current one is a sprightly 7 year old.
Unfortunately, he think canola oil is the oil to add. Most of his advice seems old school such as adding potatoes, rice and even tofu and lentils. Most of the book is meant for dogs. Cats are obligate carnivores. Oh well ... glad I didn't buy the book.
There is literally nothing wrong with potatoes, rice, tofu (depending on the manufacturer), and lentils. All of those are solid ingredients. In fact, what I’m feeding my dogs now has lamb, potatoes, and rice.
Truthfully, those aren’t good for humans or animals. I guess you’ve not done any kind of deep dive into nutrition so that just makes you not “ in the know.” I’m sorry, but starches and GMO foods are killing most of us. Why do you think so many people and animals get cancer? It’s mostly diet related. But you can feed whatever cancer and chronic illness causing foods you want to yourself and your animals if you don’t want to obtain knowledge about how foods affect your health.
I had a book decades ago with recipes for homemade cat food. It did include a little veg, but then I've had cats beg for green beans and raisins from me and eat them, so a little is OK for them I guess. They'd consume the plant matter inside their prey's digestive tracts anyway. I think that book was called The New Natural Cat. I feed mostly raw (cats and dogs) plus a small amount of our cooked leftovers (fish or other meat for the cats, and whatever they want for the dogs, which is often everything) and I teach them to eat any prey they catch in the yard, such as mice, voles, young rabbits, or sparrows. At first they mainly want to play with it, but they can easily be taught to eat it if they don't start doing so on their own. This not only saves a little money on food, but gives me peace of mind that if they found themselves out on their own, they could survive.
My dog gets the same quality of food as me, grass fed mince, free range chicken, eggs from my organically fed chickens, vegies fom my garden (if possible) cooked with quinoa and gelatine . I do include raw mince, organ meat and raw bones.
The most important thing I feel is variety. We alternate between free range chicken wings and carcuses, beef soup bones, lamb offcuts, egg, and canned sardines. Offal alternates between chicken livers and lamb kidney, mince between beef, chicken and turkey. Always has a small portion of the cooked vegie mix, a tablespoon of kefir, a fish oil capsule and loves a small amount of fruit -blueberries for the antioxidents and small pieces of home grown pears or apples etc.
She does get a small snack in the evening of a dehydrated or air dried quality food that is over 90% meat, no meatmeal, grain or fillers but always soaked in hot water first and also loves to lick every pot or pan, egg beating bowl or empty kefir bowl! A very healthy 7 year old who most newcomers think is still a puppy
I spent a lot of time in Sweden back in the 80's in a village right out in the sticks. The family I was with were enrolled in a local hunting group and I often went along for the ride. My father in-law had a marvellous hunting dog who had his meals served to him on the same plates we ate from and with very few exceptions..the very same food. " The dog worked hard to put that meat on our table, it's only right he shares it"
Up until 15yrs ago all my fogs had the recommended shots, and conventional dog food. Biscuits, and wet food, the best vet science that money could buy. All of my dogs died before their time from illness and cancers.
My current dog, eats human grade meat, leftovers, veges, rarely has biscuits and has no vaccinations. He's doing very. Nicely at 12yrs and still runs around like a puppy. Vets have known far longer than the rest of medicine, how toxic the shots and food is, partially why they have eclipsed dentists in suicide rates.😐🤫
Where can I find stats on dogs suicide rate vs that of dentists?
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I imagine a family sitting around the dinner table, parents eating a steak, baked potato and a Caesar salad, giving their children a bowl of pretzels, as the baby gets a bottle of formula. Every night for the rest of their young lives. A bowl of pretzels. Good parents right, after all, the kids can eat as many pretzels as they want to stave off hunger, so the parents are taking good care of their children. They're not going hungry. The parents don't notice the lethargy, dark circles under eyes or the gray complexion and rotten teeth, that's normal right?
Now, times that by 10 or 100 for dogs who live by smell, can hear thunder coming from the next town over, and sits in the kitchen as your cooking and imagines you'll share those wonderful cooking smells with him. Maybe you'll throw him a speck of meat atop that bowl of shit he knows is the only meal he'll get from you. And what do you get for that "generosity"?
Complete love, devotion and protection as that little fella sits by your feet and looks up at you with a love rarely seen by others in your life. Think about that.
Great comment. ♥
Before everyone berates Strombeck and piles on criticism for his oil choices and a few others, pls remember it is an older book. Our knowledge has shifted. This was sorta revolutionary when he wrote it. I regularly get responses that people feel totally inadequate to be able to feed their pets on their own. That they have to follow an expert.
He only published one edition and when the editors came back to him and wanted to do another one, he said no thank you. He was near the end of his career and would rather get the information out on the Internet for more to have access to it then make money off a second book.
The publisher still chose to do a second edition with a different author. I have no idea if it is a good book or not. If the original history is in or got buried.
Yes!! Love to see Strombeck getting press. This makes my Monday complete. He has a couple of buddies also fighting the good fight and more than likely nearing retirement or completely done.
I found them while looking for Strombeck after a friend shared his book with me. She had a dog with serial health issues and drugs etc, etc with no solution until she found Strombeck. This is a good decade ago.
The friend wrote to him while he was still on staff and he wrote back. That dog had shiny fur, clear eye and good demeanor—the hallmarks of systemic health. I am forever grateful to her for her sharing of Strombeck.
It has been tragic watching animals suffer.
Vets gaslight just like people MDs. And we all have had enough of the BS. The 4 legged furry critters thank you for getting the word out.
The first thing I noticed is that many of the recipes include canola oil, not good.
I agree, and I haven't looked at the recipes yet, but but read most of the article, and looked over the book and noticed there are couple things mentioned that are high oxalate, like potatoes and beet mash. Dogs, like humans, are all different, so I imagine several things might be adjusted per specific animal. I am getting ahead of myself with this condiering I haven't looked at the recipes yet, but I will be working around the oxalates, and likely replace the 'canola oil' with olive oil, coconut oil, and some fermented cod liver oil. This book appears to me to be a good basis to build on. The dog and I both get some EV olive oil daily per the Steven Gundrey theory.
Such an important topic. Thank you on behalf of the 4-leggeds!
I never feed my dogs commercial food despite vets pushing these onto me. In Australia I feed the dogs diced kangaroo, leftovers, veggies and very few snacks. No vaccinations. Owen was 14 before he passed away. The current one is a sprightly 7 year old.
Unfortunately, he think canola oil is the oil to add. Most of his advice seems old school such as adding potatoes, rice and even tofu and lentils. Most of the book is meant for dogs. Cats are obligate carnivores. Oh well ... glad I didn't buy the book.
There is literally nothing wrong with potatoes, rice, tofu (depending on the manufacturer), and lentils. All of those are solid ingredients. In fact, what I’m feeding my dogs now has lamb, potatoes, and rice.
Truthfully, those aren’t good for humans or animals. I guess you’ve not done any kind of deep dive into nutrition so that just makes you not “ in the know.” I’m sorry, but starches and GMO foods are killing most of us. Why do you think so many people and animals get cancer? It’s mostly diet related. But you can feed whatever cancer and chronic illness causing foods you want to yourself and your animals if you don’t want to obtain knowledge about how foods affect your health.
I had a book decades ago with recipes for homemade cat food. It did include a little veg, but then I've had cats beg for green beans and raisins from me and eat them, so a little is OK for them I guess. They'd consume the plant matter inside their prey's digestive tracts anyway. I think that book was called The New Natural Cat. I feed mostly raw (cats and dogs) plus a small amount of our cooked leftovers (fish or other meat for the cats, and whatever they want for the dogs, which is often everything) and I teach them to eat any prey they catch in the yard, such as mice, voles, young rabbits, or sparrows. At first they mainly want to play with it, but they can easily be taught to eat it if they don't start doing so on their own. This not only saves a little money on food, but gives me peace of mind that if they found themselves out on their own, they could survive.
My dog gets the same quality of food as me, grass fed mince, free range chicken, eggs from my organically fed chickens, vegies fom my garden (if possible) cooked with quinoa and gelatine . I do include raw mince, organ meat and raw bones.
The most important thing I feel is variety. We alternate between free range chicken wings and carcuses, beef soup bones, lamb offcuts, egg, and canned sardines. Offal alternates between chicken livers and lamb kidney, mince between beef, chicken and turkey. Always has a small portion of the cooked vegie mix, a tablespoon of kefir, a fish oil capsule and loves a small amount of fruit -blueberries for the antioxidents and small pieces of home grown pears or apples etc.
She does get a small snack in the evening of a dehydrated or air dried quality food that is over 90% meat, no meatmeal, grain or fillers but always soaked in hot water first and also loves to lick every pot or pan, egg beating bowl or empty kefir bowl! A very healthy 7 year old who most newcomers think is still a puppy
I spent a lot of time in Sweden back in the 80's in a village right out in the sticks. The family I was with were enrolled in a local hunting group and I often went along for the ride. My father in-law had a marvellous hunting dog who had his meals served to him on the same plates we ate from and with very few exceptions..the very same food. " The dog worked hard to put that meat on our table, it's only right he shares it"
Fittest dog I ever saw
Cottage cheese and rice for cats, which are obligate carnivores??
It isnt perfect info. What is? Some thinking has changed and needs updating. Nearly anything is better than ultra-processed.
Wonderful info as always, thanks!
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