This interview is one of the best I’ve read in a while. It describes exactly what has been going on and what is going on and offer Solutions which is wonderful
I will definitely Look into all the material provided including live discussions or broadcast. Thank you so much. This is invaluable.
I like this interview so much, it not only allowed me to see the truth in more detail, but also gave me some direction on what I should be doing now- Working on myself and if I can, help others. Also validating how essential it is to remove the materialism and not be part of this world.
Sadly none of the Steiner organisations I contacted early on in this scenario were willing to speak up about this and warn folks. Hopefully some of the ones i didnt contact were able to be active. I hope at least their books had inoculated plenty of people against the whole thing. I really expected them to step up and point out that Steiner warned against this stuff. Hopefully somewhere they did.
A friend of mine, wholly awake to the covid "vaxx" scam, was a (Steiner-associated) Waldorf instructor for decades. She was aghast that her teacher colleagues and the whole school admin there, were completely on-board with masking and vaxxing. It was a complete head-spinner for her. WTF.
Exactly .. very similar to most of the churches who seemed not to be following anything they were taught by the founder of their faith. At least this situation has made folks aware that their faiths were ‘lukewarm’ .
If I understand from what I read on online, the Waldorf Schools have become "woke" under the same hysterical feminism so prevalent in our society today. I first read about this phenomenon on Gigi Young's website during Covid shutdowns. If you look at Doug Gabriel's work (YouTube and his own web site), you'll note that he's a Master Teacher (in Waldorf) (and I believe an expert on Steiner) and worked extensively setting up the Waldorf School system in America. He says the same. He can't believe the people now running and working within the Waldorf system. They are NOT adhering to Steiner's ideas. A tragedy.
An addendum: I guess we should expect this kind of subtle destruction. Steiner's system was so far ahead of anyone else and capable of truly changing education as we know it--I guess it threatened too much to those who would prefer a dumbed-down population.
Maybe you can help me understand this. I’ve lived and worked in Steiner communities and schools and I read a couple of his books. I’m far from being an expert in his ideas but I came away feeling he was teaching something too ‘soft’. In countering the tougher side of the thule people he seemed to me to be creating something too dreamy to stand up to tyranny if it resurfaced .. It wasnt entirely a surprise to me the way the organisation reacted to covd. The children I knew from Steiner schools (older age group) seemed to struggle with being a little too dreamy and soft. Was this just a case of me knowing bad versions of his teachings maybe ?? Waldorf for young children I always thought was great .
I’d be careful with broad generalizations. I know quite a few Waldorf teachers, schools, and people who grew up in Waldorf education, including some who later participated in our programs where we went much deeper into these topics. Many of them are very aware of what I spoke about in the interview and of Thomas Mayer’s work. They were not “dreamy” or passive at all. Quite the opposite. Most refused the jab and did not buy into woke ideology.
That said, I do agree with you on an important point. Many Waldorf schools were effectively hijacked and, in many cases, had already drifted away from Steiner’s original vision decades ago. What is practiced institutionally today often has little to do with the depth and inner discipline required by Steiner’s actual work.
For that reason, I would clearly separate Waldorf as an educational movement from the depth of Steiner’s spiritual science itself. One can critique how many schools responded during COVID without reducing Steiner’s work to a “soft” or dreamy philosophy. Much of that softness comes from dilution, distortion, and misinterpretation, not from the source teaching itself.
Thanks for that. It’s maybe the UK that has a more dreamy approach ? The children I knew (older school age not the young Waldorf kids) were generally either dreamy and struggled with adult life, or else cynical and angry and a bit bitter about their parents views . German friends/colleagues tried to help me understand the dynamics and they said it was tainted with guilt from wartime. It’s a very big subject I guess.
Your remarks are fascinating, Yeowoman. I'm afraid that I can't comment much further on Waldorf education as I've never read in that particular Steiner area nor do I personally know anyone associated with the Waldorf system. I passed along only what other comments in the Gigi Young Forum shared from their personal experiences.
I note that Europe still appears to be living WWII. "German friends/colleagues tried to help me understand...tainted with guilt from wartime." The effective Globalist faction which presently controls Europe has indoctrinated Europeans into an abnormal (in my opinion) obsession with guilt over the Nazism practiced during the last great war...which is why they can so effectively today prohibit and censor speech as "dangerous" and "misinformation." Note the tremendous problems with people being jailed and charged with high crimes over incredibly simplistic phrases or language both in England and Germany.
I would also point out that our current epoch is called "English/German Epoch" (from Steiner) which still has approximately 2,000 years more to endure. The English and German people have defined this era of time. They are not worth more nor more valuable than other people *intrinsically*, but they define and move the age. All our current modern development derives from English/German scientific investigations and current materialistic shaping of the universe. They drive the impetus for karmic conditions to develop...in other words. This, imo, is the real reason the Globalist faction wants to dilute Europe with forced immigration.
Steiner's value to me is that I see a horizon open spiritually. I've practiced my brand of Buddhism since I was 30, and today I'm 77. The founder of this sect is incredibly esoteric, and his writings are beyond my understanding at this point. Steiner has offered me a path forward. I've always disliked formal religion, for I see the control mechanism and the instillation of false concepts like "sin." Yet, Steiner's "Christianity" to me with a "Cosmic Christ" blows Christianity, as currently practiced, out of the water.
Will people become soft and dreamy practicing such Christianity? I only know one thing from years of observation and because I'm one "hard person." Hardness doesn't win. Believe me, I'm hard. My background (karmically and past lives) is essentially military in scope. Soldiering. Hardness never wins. True strength derives from knowledge. Once essential truths are known to an individual, no question exists that they will "back down." The alternative doesn't exist.
Steiner points toward, from my perspective, the idea that people will evolve (those who would like to do so) a type of clairvoyant knowing. They will see through the motives and intentions of others. They won't be fooled. I no longer think this will be clairvoyance as we know it today but a way of knowing far beyond based upon a highly developed intuition about which we know nothing today. This intuition will also incorporate logic, reasoning, and rational thought which is why Steiner spoke of "spiritual science."
Gigi Young is great at reiterating that the actual consciousness of the people in previous eras is totally different from what we experience today. We assume that all through history people viewed and saw events and objects as we do. She correctly points out that they haven't. Atlantis, e.g., began with a "hive-mind soul" clairvoyance which gradually dissolved into a more discrete soul (an individual soul with the advent of Christ) as the Post Atlantean era (our era) began. The best "race" of the Atlantean epochs seeded this Post Atlantean age...a concept widely misunderstood in terms of "race" today and also why Globalists who rule Europe want that misunderstanding of "race."
Ah, thankyou for writing all that. My doctor partner was german and we never really discussed (the war) .. it was always a huge unwritten taboo. Yet the germanic mindset does shape things. Everything you say makes sense there .. I’ve no problem with buddhist/christ. Its pretty much how I see things myself.
Sadly most folks tell me the truth doesnt work and noone wants it .. I hope you are correct because it’s what I’m banking on too !! :)
Well, as Wayne Dyer used to constantly point out, we are spiritual beings having a human experience and not the other way around; ever since the Fall in the Garden, and call it what you like, human hubris , free will, or Satanic intervention, the pursuit of materialism has been an ongoing assault on the spiritual essence we were created with; psychologist, Erik Erikson called us "unfinished" human beings that for most of us need a lifetime before reaching full maturity and realization as responsible and fulfilled as a human species; and that includes the knowledge that mankind was never the measure of all things and that human nature was only a single manifestation of the totality of Creation; the globalist psychopaths are anti-life, anti-nature, anti-religion, anti-spiritual and anti the existence of our very souls; but their dominance and force are temporary abberations and only serve as a learning expERiEncE in our ongoing evolution.
Thank you, Unbekoming. An outstanding interview. I'm heavily interested in Steiner during this phase of my life. I'm just stunned by Guenther's incredibly lucid, simple explanations...showing great wisdom. I read Mayer's book with very little relish while Guenther opened up the entire matter for me in a far more clear fashion. I come from a Buddhist background and have only recently, since 2022, encountered a more full study of Steiner when I engaged at Gigi Young's forum.
I used to follow Andy Cutler and the group called Autism-Mercury. I learned so much there. Many parents followed his protocol and retrieved their children. I understood that boys tended to get autism, and girls tended to get autoimmune disorders. Girls tend to go into puberty early.
A long time ago I read someone, (wish I could remember who it was) who had a whole article on metal and mineral personalities. It was a little weird, but interesting. I had a relative who was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He was occupationally metal toxic - mercury, cadmium, and lead. This cleared as he detoxed just through diet, sunshine, and nature. He had been in the navy in WWII, and I've wondered what the health issues are of people on ships for long periods of time.
There used to be a lot of concern about mercury, but now people look mainly at aluminum. I believe mercury is a factor or cause of MS. I believe iron overload is a factor in OCD. and being kind of mean! No one talks about this much, but people who live near mining operations have specific health issues depending on the metal.
People interested in mercury poisoning should look up Freya Koss.
Me too, I also found out about Andy when he was participating in the Yahoo groups. Now we have a huge Facebook group which is a better format. There must be close to 100,000 members now.
Yes, everybody is on about aluminum now. Andy used to say that 50% of children will recover with just chelation and another 25% need chelation and some other therapy and for the last 25 the problem is something other than mercury. And that was chelation for mercury. It is gospel with us that aluminum is only retained in the presence of mercury and comes out as the mercury burden goes down. There is no chelator for aluminum. It is synergistic with mercury, however, like all the other metals, so it makes symptoms worse.
Andy always said that the autism is mercury, not aluminum. I wish he were alive to comment on all the new research. I am guessing that the kids are still getting exposed to mercury, even though the manufacturers are saying that they aren't.
The video below was recorded by the Department of Defense at the Pentagon. >>> Department of Defense officials discuss releasing a flu virus and using the FunVax (Fundamentalists vaccine) to manipulate the "God Gene" in DNA of those inoculated to eliminate religious fundamentalists.
The 'vaccine' modality is much exceeded by *direct* application of electromagnetic interference. Biological "life" is an *analog based* sensory interface with the environment. Your "Spirit" is a biological projection based upon exquisitely sensitive device. These are known relationships...
Pulsed digital broadcast interferes with, and hijacks, both biological and metaphysical messaging. The entrapment of Kundalini energies and other evolved energy interface, are being decimated by man's electromagnetic addiction... No one seems to be paying attention...
agree esp with your last paragraph, and your observation that "no one seems to be paying attention". . . . the programming for that outcome has been quite effective, and probably began with TV (or even radio).
Extraordinary communication. So lucidly, deeply and broadly written. I have often felt very much alone with these kinds of understandings throughout what is getting close to being a long life. Though these beings are partly new to me, conceptually speaking, the felt sense of what you’ve laid out in this interview, has been with me
for most of my life. But try to articulate it in various kinds of vacuums and one questions one’s own sanity at times. So weirdly, I find solace in reading this interview. As the madness and horrors on so many levels are finally starting to be illuminated in the world at large, the time and atmosphere to really go into one’s own work, is finally possible for many more of us.
I find, as such, have found, that the folks B, and L, and Leo 🐾❤️, at Veil Of Reality have clarity on so many subjects; it is my go to place, during the space between…Breaths. Thank you for this material, presentation. Godspeed❤️🐴🔥
This interview is extremely informative and relevant. I disagree that you say it is useless. Think about it and read again. Maybe you should listen to his podcast or do some more research.
This interview is one of the best I’ve read in a while. It describes exactly what has been going on and what is going on and offer Solutions which is wonderful
I will definitely Look into all the material provided including live discussions or broadcast. Thank you so much. This is invaluable.
I like this interview so much, it not only allowed me to see the truth in more detail, but also gave me some direction on what I should be doing now- Working on myself and if I can, help others. Also validating how essential it is to remove the materialism and not be part of this world.
Sadly none of the Steiner organisations I contacted early on in this scenario were willing to speak up about this and warn folks. Hopefully some of the ones i didnt contact were able to be active. I hope at least their books had inoculated plenty of people against the whole thing. I really expected them to step up and point out that Steiner warned against this stuff. Hopefully somewhere they did.
A friend of mine, wholly awake to the covid "vaxx" scam, was a (Steiner-associated) Waldorf instructor for decades. She was aghast that her teacher colleagues and the whole school admin there, were completely on-board with masking and vaxxing. It was a complete head-spinner for her. WTF.
Exactly .. very similar to most of the churches who seemed not to be following anything they were taught by the founder of their faith. At least this situation has made folks aware that their faiths were ‘lukewarm’ .
Katherine— "WTF," yeah. I totally hear you.
If I understand from what I read on online, the Waldorf Schools have become "woke" under the same hysterical feminism so prevalent in our society today. I first read about this phenomenon on Gigi Young's website during Covid shutdowns. If you look at Doug Gabriel's work (YouTube and his own web site), you'll note that he's a Master Teacher (in Waldorf) (and I believe an expert on Steiner) and worked extensively setting up the Waldorf School system in America. He says the same. He can't believe the people now running and working within the Waldorf system. They are NOT adhering to Steiner's ideas. A tragedy.
An addendum: I guess we should expect this kind of subtle destruction. Steiner's system was so far ahead of anyone else and capable of truly changing education as we know it--I guess it threatened too much to those who would prefer a dumbed-down population.
Maybe you can help me understand this. I’ve lived and worked in Steiner communities and schools and I read a couple of his books. I’m far from being an expert in his ideas but I came away feeling he was teaching something too ‘soft’. In countering the tougher side of the thule people he seemed to me to be creating something too dreamy to stand up to tyranny if it resurfaced .. It wasnt entirely a surprise to me the way the organisation reacted to covd. The children I knew from Steiner schools (older age group) seemed to struggle with being a little too dreamy and soft. Was this just a case of me knowing bad versions of his teachings maybe ?? Waldorf for young children I always thought was great .
I’d be careful with broad generalizations. I know quite a few Waldorf teachers, schools, and people who grew up in Waldorf education, including some who later participated in our programs where we went much deeper into these topics. Many of them are very aware of what I spoke about in the interview and of Thomas Mayer’s work. They were not “dreamy” or passive at all. Quite the opposite. Most refused the jab and did not buy into woke ideology.
That said, I do agree with you on an important point. Many Waldorf schools were effectively hijacked and, in many cases, had already drifted away from Steiner’s original vision decades ago. What is practiced institutionally today often has little to do with the depth and inner discipline required by Steiner’s actual work.
For that reason, I would clearly separate Waldorf as an educational movement from the depth of Steiner’s spiritual science itself. One can critique how many schools responded during COVID without reducing Steiner’s work to a “soft” or dreamy philosophy. Much of that softness comes from dilution, distortion, and misinterpretation, not from the source teaching itself.
Thanks for that. It’s maybe the UK that has a more dreamy approach ? The children I knew (older school age not the young Waldorf kids) were generally either dreamy and struggled with adult life, or else cynical and angry and a bit bitter about their parents views . German friends/colleagues tried to help me understand the dynamics and they said it was tainted with guilt from wartime. It’s a very big subject I guess.
Your remarks are fascinating, Yeowoman. I'm afraid that I can't comment much further on Waldorf education as I've never read in that particular Steiner area nor do I personally know anyone associated with the Waldorf system. I passed along only what other comments in the Gigi Young Forum shared from their personal experiences.
I note that Europe still appears to be living WWII. "German friends/colleagues tried to help me understand...tainted with guilt from wartime." The effective Globalist faction which presently controls Europe has indoctrinated Europeans into an abnormal (in my opinion) obsession with guilt over the Nazism practiced during the last great war...which is why they can so effectively today prohibit and censor speech as "dangerous" and "misinformation." Note the tremendous problems with people being jailed and charged with high crimes over incredibly simplistic phrases or language both in England and Germany.
I would also point out that our current epoch is called "English/German Epoch" (from Steiner) which still has approximately 2,000 years more to endure. The English and German people have defined this era of time. They are not worth more nor more valuable than other people *intrinsically*, but they define and move the age. All our current modern development derives from English/German scientific investigations and current materialistic shaping of the universe. They drive the impetus for karmic conditions to develop...in other words. This, imo, is the real reason the Globalist faction wants to dilute Europe with forced immigration.
Steiner's value to me is that I see a horizon open spiritually. I've practiced my brand of Buddhism since I was 30, and today I'm 77. The founder of this sect is incredibly esoteric, and his writings are beyond my understanding at this point. Steiner has offered me a path forward. I've always disliked formal religion, for I see the control mechanism and the instillation of false concepts like "sin." Yet, Steiner's "Christianity" to me with a "Cosmic Christ" blows Christianity, as currently practiced, out of the water.
Will people become soft and dreamy practicing such Christianity? I only know one thing from years of observation and because I'm one "hard person." Hardness doesn't win. Believe me, I'm hard. My background (karmically and past lives) is essentially military in scope. Soldiering. Hardness never wins. True strength derives from knowledge. Once essential truths are known to an individual, no question exists that they will "back down." The alternative doesn't exist.
Steiner points toward, from my perspective, the idea that people will evolve (those who would like to do so) a type of clairvoyant knowing. They will see through the motives and intentions of others. They won't be fooled. I no longer think this will be clairvoyance as we know it today but a way of knowing far beyond based upon a highly developed intuition about which we know nothing today. This intuition will also incorporate logic, reasoning, and rational thought which is why Steiner spoke of "spiritual science."
Gigi Young is great at reiterating that the actual consciousness of the people in previous eras is totally different from what we experience today. We assume that all through history people viewed and saw events and objects as we do. She correctly points out that they haven't. Atlantis, e.g., began with a "hive-mind soul" clairvoyance which gradually dissolved into a more discrete soul (an individual soul with the advent of Christ) as the Post Atlantean era (our era) began. The best "race" of the Atlantean epochs seeded this Post Atlantean age...a concept widely misunderstood in terms of "race" today and also why Globalists who rule Europe want that misunderstanding of "race."
Sorry to be long! Best regards and cheers!
Ah, thankyou for writing all that. My doctor partner was german and we never really discussed (the war) .. it was always a huge unwritten taboo. Yet the germanic mindset does shape things. Everything you say makes sense there .. I’ve no problem with buddhist/christ. Its pretty much how I see things myself.
Sadly most folks tell me the truth doesnt work and noone wants it .. I hope you are correct because it’s what I’m banking on too !! :)
Bestest wishes to you.
Well, as Wayne Dyer used to constantly point out, we are spiritual beings having a human experience and not the other way around; ever since the Fall in the Garden, and call it what you like, human hubris , free will, or Satanic intervention, the pursuit of materialism has been an ongoing assault on the spiritual essence we were created with; psychologist, Erik Erikson called us "unfinished" human beings that for most of us need a lifetime before reaching full maturity and realization as responsible and fulfilled as a human species; and that includes the knowledge that mankind was never the measure of all things and that human nature was only a single manifestation of the totality of Creation; the globalist psychopaths are anti-life, anti-nature, anti-religion, anti-spiritual and anti the existence of our very souls; but their dominance and force are temporary abberations and only serve as a learning expERiEncE in our ongoing evolution.
Thank you, Unbekoming. An outstanding interview. I'm heavily interested in Steiner during this phase of my life. I'm just stunned by Guenther's incredibly lucid, simple explanations...showing great wisdom. I read Mayer's book with very little relish while Guenther opened up the entire matter for me in a far more clear fashion. I come from a Buddhist background and have only recently, since 2022, encountered a more full study of Steiner when I engaged at Gigi Young's forum.
This is very interesting stuff! It ties in with what I have been discovering about the personalities that go along with different poisons. I wrote an article about that: https://www.maybeitsmercury.com/mercurial-archetypes. I also had a personal experience with one of the little creatures that you describe that feeds off of emotions. https://www.maybeitsmercury.com/demons-and-angels
Interesting articles you wrote. It would be nice to see more attention on mercury poisoning
Thank you. Yes, I am working on that. Mercury poisoning is curable.
I am glad you keep focus on mercury.
I used to follow Andy Cutler and the group called Autism-Mercury. I learned so much there. Many parents followed his protocol and retrieved their children. I understood that boys tended to get autism, and girls tended to get autoimmune disorders. Girls tend to go into puberty early.
A long time ago I read someone, (wish I could remember who it was) who had a whole article on metal and mineral personalities. It was a little weird, but interesting. I had a relative who was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He was occupationally metal toxic - mercury, cadmium, and lead. This cleared as he detoxed just through diet, sunshine, and nature. He had been in the navy in WWII, and I've wondered what the health issues are of people on ships for long periods of time.
There used to be a lot of concern about mercury, but now people look mainly at aluminum. I believe mercury is a factor or cause of MS. I believe iron overload is a factor in OCD. and being kind of mean! No one talks about this much, but people who live near mining operations have specific health issues depending on the metal.
People interested in mercury poisoning should look up Freya Koss.
Me too, I also found out about Andy when he was participating in the Yahoo groups. Now we have a huge Facebook group which is a better format. There must be close to 100,000 members now.
Yes, everybody is on about aluminum now. Andy used to say that 50% of children will recover with just chelation and another 25% need chelation and some other therapy and for the last 25 the problem is something other than mercury. And that was chelation for mercury. It is gospel with us that aluminum is only retained in the presence of mercury and comes out as the mercury burden goes down. There is no chelator for aluminum. It is synergistic with mercury, however, like all the other metals, so it makes symptoms worse.
Andy always said that the autism is mercury, not aluminum. I wish he were alive to comment on all the new research. I am guessing that the kids are still getting exposed to mercury, even though the manufacturers are saying that they aren't.
Bernard Guenther and Laura Matsue are inspirational and highly recommended for those who are ready for psycho-spiritual progress. Great interview!
What a deep and revealing interview. Quite brilliant, actually. Thank you.
The video below was recorded by the Department of Defense at the Pentagon. >>> Department of Defense officials discuss releasing a flu virus and using the FunVax (Fundamentalists vaccine) to manipulate the "God Gene" in DNA of those inoculated to eliminate religious fundamentalists.
DOD Project Id -- 149AZ2 >>> DOCID FX36.879..AX.AZ2.14 >>> Submission Data -- 4/10/05 >>> Submission ID- 983459.4.05 >>> https://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/health/pengtagon_vaccine_modify_behavior
See also: FunVax: Fundamentalist Vaccine >>> https://www.wanttoknow.info/health/funvax_fundamentalist_vaccine
The 'vaccine' modality is much exceeded by *direct* application of electromagnetic interference. Biological "life" is an *analog based* sensory interface with the environment. Your "Spirit" is a biological projection based upon exquisitely sensitive device. These are known relationships...
Pulsed digital broadcast interferes with, and hijacks, both biological and metaphysical messaging. The entrapment of Kundalini energies and other evolved energy interface, are being decimated by man's electromagnetic addiction... No one seems to be paying attention...
agree esp with your last paragraph, and your observation that "no one seems to be paying attention". . . . the programming for that outcome has been quite effective, and probably began with TV (or even radio).
Extraordinary communication. So lucidly, deeply and broadly written. I have often felt very much alone with these kinds of understandings throughout what is getting close to being a long life. Though these beings are partly new to me, conceptually speaking, the felt sense of what you’ve laid out in this interview, has been with me
for most of my life. But try to articulate it in various kinds of vacuums and one questions one’s own sanity at times. So weirdly, I find solace in reading this interview. As the madness and horrors on so many levels are finally starting to be illuminated in the world at large, the time and atmosphere to really go into one’s own work, is finally possible for many more of us.
Thank you.
I find, as such, have found, that the folks B, and L, and Leo 🐾❤️, at Veil Of Reality have clarity on so many subjects; it is my go to place, during the space between…Breaths. Thank you for this material, presentation. Godspeed❤️🐴🔥
Unconscious archetypal discernment of mundane realities.
This interview is extremely informative and relevant. I disagree that you say it is useless. Think about it and read again. Maybe you should listen to his podcast or do some more research.
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