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Ron Heidary's avatar

This is excellent. Thank you. Two things. Do you have data that shows these methods are more effective than chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. Everything I’ve read, from non-medical sources, says DO NOT do chemo & radiation, that the survivor rate is about 2%. But people are scared to not go that route after talking to their doctors. Second, I just read a book by Robyn Openshaw called Take Daily in which she reveals that many vitamins are actually toxic, especially vitamin D3. I assume if we should use high dose vitamins it is critical to use quality, natural sourced supplements. Do you make brand recommendations. Thanks so much.

Amanda King ND's avatar

I should add there is data showing very poor overall outcomes from medical treatment. I think the overall improvement with chemo was 1-2% in that paper yes!

Amanda King ND's avatar

I have written an article about vitamin D3. It’s not the supplement it’s the dose that is toxic.

I don’t affiliate with a particular brand but I do make recommendations through fullscript for my US based patients and only recommend high quality brands.

Amanda King ND's avatar

Take a look at my substack for articles about toxic supplements - it’s nuanced.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

“But the foundation was metabolic: understanding that carbohydrates are just long sugar chains, that whole grain bread and brown rice are essentially glucose, primary food for cancer. We’ve been conditioned to see whole grains as healthy when really it’s about economics—sugar, corn, and wheat are heavily subsidized foods worth billions.”

Wow —- we need to tackle on the pharma industry, banking, and others. But FOOD? The Food industry?!

This is one that we can easily change right away by simply revisiting our cabinets.

Carbs are not natural and are guided to us to eat, leading to cancer. The sooner we can get healthier, the better.

Thanks for introducing us to Dr. King! Just followed their work and will be sharing her site with those I know personally going through cancer.

Amanda King ND's avatar

Thank you so much! Yes, we can start intervening right now by changing what we buy in the store!

Don's avatar

It's all about metabolic health. We all get cancer and most of us never know b/c our immune system protects us. I love this approach: heal the terrain and see disease reduce or disappear. Much better than trying to destroy the cancer even if the cure destroys the vessel / person. Thank you for introducing Dr King to us, I love her approach!

Stephen Motto's avatar

Would this approach also help in managing Parkinson’s disease?

Amanda King ND's avatar

I haven’t researched off labels for Parkinson’s but I’ve worked with people with PD who have seen good successes in stabilising symptoms and improving areas of health like gut health, mobility and well being.

There are a few deficiencies known to be associated with PD. B6 is important, there is often gut dysbiosis (constipation seems to be a feature which is important to resolve) and often toxicity too which we can work to eliminate. Also choline and lions mane can help.

Hope that helps. Happy to work with you if you are looking for a practitioner. Availability starting from December now. Best, Amanda

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

What role do you see for a strong and vibrant immune system in the fight against cancer?

Amanda King ND's avatar

A huge role of course. We all have cancerous cells and most are dealt with by our immune system… our immune system is our terrain. We are the environment and cancer is a metabolic disease, almost never genetically determined.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Absolutely correct. I just don't understand how all the medical dialog on health issues talks around the immune system but never focues on explaining the central role it plays.

The continued discrediting of the role of Vitamin D in it's active hormonal form continues to be pushed to this day. Also plays a central role in maintaining a healthy immune system.

Amanda King ND's avatar

Yes!! An educated voice! High dose vitamin D3 (with the correct co-factors and based on serum testing by a professional) is a vital intervention in immune system support. It would be malpractise to ignore the data on this, yet D3 (1,25 and 25OH) are not routinely checked when a person gets their bloods taken. This is such a cheap and easy intervention it should be standard!

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Totally ignored by the oncologists. Their mantra is don’t interfere with my chemo.

Amanda King ND's avatar

Sad! Lots of stories like this.

misty's avatar

And, if I understand it correctly, the low-end numbers that are considered "normal" in these blood tests are basically high enough for survival... not optimal and truly healthy. I don't want to be just surviving - I want to be healthy and thriving.

Amanda King ND's avatar

And what role do you see for it?

Russell Wendell's avatar

Just finding you for the first time. I’m a late comer to this discussion but my limited understanding is that even Dr Mercola sees Vitamin D as essential for overall immune health. Most natural healers want to see levels in the 70-80 or higher range. Supplementation is normally the approach to get levels up. If “the dose makes the poison” (and no doubt this is generally true!) then what dose is toxic…and what other ways do you in your professional practice raise D levels? I think I’m reading between your lines that D3 supplementation is not a good thing? (But this is generally my “beef” with both the conventional medicine side (who as a “chorus” ignore supplements altogether) and also the naturopathic side (who are VERY fragmented…don’t talk to one another, and those who are trying to sort through all the noise are left in confusion!)!!!

Dr Amanda, I was excited and delighted to find you but then disappointed that (limited to what I’m reading here) your “dose” answer is so vague? I honestly don’t know what to do with it! But I do confess it may simply be my ignorance since I’m truly just learning and want desperately to understand the basics. Please help me understand this better.

Amanda King ND's avatar

There is an article on The Metabolic Nutritionist that addresses the Vitamin D controversy. You may find that brings more clarity. We generally look to bring blood ranges to between 200-300nmol/l but it varies with the individual.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

It produces the T cells to destroy aberrant cells on a daily basis. It is when it is overwhelmed with the task because of toxic over load or lack of a healthy microbiome. Agree?

Amanda King ND's avatar

Do you mean cancer happens with immune system overload?

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Cause and effects are complex and there is no one definitive answer in my view. I have been told it takes 7 T-cells to destroy one cancer cell. The immune system is the sentinel defense system. Measuring the vibrancy and boosting it is key.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

I was in the Big Pharma camp because I didn’t question their motivation. All changed in 1999 when my acquired Lymphoma. Gone 180 degrees. My mantra is N2E + for Life!

Good Nutrition without trace toxins.

Supplement with nutrients to fill the voids like vitamin D! E is for exercise and plus is for mind-body harmony.

Learn to live a stress-free life, which is difficult in today’s age

Amanda King ND's avatar

Yes I was taught not to question and used to ridicule things like questioning vaccines etc… until I started learning, and asking questions and opened my eyes! Then I realised how brainwashed I had been and how I was ridiculing ideas saying how unscientific they were when true science is always about asking questions, never blindly following.

Congratulations on your health result!

CChurch's avatar

I'd like to ask Amanda King why she uses vitamin D3 when multiple manufacturers Safety Data Sheets tell us that the chemical is exceedingly toxic, that it is “Not for medicinal, household or other use” amongst other quotes. “Do not breath dust/fume/gas…”, “Wear protective gloves/protective clothing…”, “If swallowed immediately call a POISON CENTRE or doctor”.

And second question for her, what does she know that the manufacturers don't?

We can find the same warnings on Vit C / Ascorbic Acid MSDS's.

Third question to any and everyone else, who is being negligent here?

Amanda King ND's avatar

The dose makes the poison - Paracelsus

CChurch's avatar

Amanda King, did Parcelsus have acces to synthetic petroleum based chemicals? No he didn't. His quote is based on natural plant produced chemicals, which may well be toxic. I'd argue that today we are dealing with a totally different set of toxins. But you do you and your patients and I hope you earn plenty.

I dont wish to be so sarcastic but where there is flawed reasoning and lack or research when selling therapeutic services does my head in thanks to recent events.

Amanda King ND's avatar

Sure, and there are toxic supplements out there, I’ve written about them on my stack. Vitamin D3 has changed health outcomes in my clinic for significant numbers of people.

CChurch's avatar

Amanda King there's also the well known phenomenon that taking a placebo can cure people.

And then you have this long disclaimer at the end of that article. You are pushing chemicals that the manufacturers ensure they have no liability for by being honest.

"Disclaimer: This information is provided for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute the provision of medical advice or professional services. Amanda King ND is a UK trained Naturopathic Practitioner. In the UK, ND means ‘Advanced Naturopathic Diploma’ not Naturopathic Doctor. Amanda is also not a medical Doctor."

misty's avatar

Do you have a better suggestion for raising Vitamin D levels? Not everyone can get adequate sun exposure on a daily basis, and there are only a few foods that are rich in Vitamin D. Yes, organic whole foods, sunshine, clean water, and fresh air are essential for health, but sometimes a person might need to supplement in order to get the body what it needs. Sometimes, in a toxic world, a person needs to pick the lesser of two evils. I would pick a trustworthy supplement over the possibility of disease due to a vitamin or mineral deficiency.

CChurch's avatar

Well its a matter of whether you believe the chemical is a vitamin just because it is called a vitamin. This chemical is also called Colcalciferol. And under this name it is a common ingredient in rat poison. Are you absolutely sure that when a chemical is "called" a vitamin it IS a vitamin?

The manufacturers give it names (plural!) and numbers and say its toxic. Nowhere do they confirm it IS a vitamin i.e. what exactly is a vitamin? We're told its a substance inherent in plants. And boom chemical manufacturers then say the can make vitamins. R u totally sure they are making vitamins?

Tend the Terrain's avatar

So grateful for Amanda's crystal clear voice in the integrative, metabolic oncology space!

Amanda King ND's avatar

I appreciate you. And the strength and clarity of this voice is sustained from the wisdom and courage of the brilliant people who have guided it.

Salil Arya's avatar

Is there a suggestion for Leiomyosarcoma prognosis. Does the ketogenic diet with repurposed medication help in Leiomyosarcoma

Amanda King ND's avatar

Low carb diets are universal in cancer - sarcomas are tricky, all quite different. Boone can nor should they, advise you on social media what to do. If you do want a referral or a practitioner to work with, reach out at admin@amandakingnd.com let me know what you need and your location and I’ll see if myself or a colleague can help you.

Russell Wendell's avatar

200 as a normal minimum or are you referring to cancer patients specifically? How could one get to that level? Recommendations? Wow!

Amanda King ND's avatar

Remember this is something that you need to work on with a practitioner. Happy Christmas.

Karon Mitchell's avatar

Just want to say how much I appreciate your work. Having lost my husband to cancer last year, after he suffered year and a half of chemotherapy, radiation, steroids, anti seizure medication, a feeding tube, and about 30 other medications, I hope that people will realize that you’re speaking truth. The big Pharma, insurance companies, hospitals and doctors who masquerade as our healthcare system need to be stopped.

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

"Madical" diagnosis is anything but reliable... The body often heals itself, and everybody has some form of "cancer"... Granted, traditional cancer "treatments" are a disaster, but that doesn't mean anything else is good, just because it's different. Shooting at something that hasn't even been accurately described (doctors cannot do that, anyway) with an arsenal is a hit-and-miss at best, and undesired poisoning at worst. It's a different scenario, when there is nothing to lose, but is there? I don't want all the hypochondriacs to jump on the bandwagon of any "treatment," so I am posting this warning here.

"Vitamin" D has nothing to do with sunshine; it is calciferol, a synthetic blood thinner, often used in rat poison. Four pills already pose a risk to humans:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-can-you-expect-from-vitamin

Synthetic chemicals tend to pose danger, and the risks are posted by manufacturers in MSDS reports:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-can-you-ascentain-how-bad-synthetic

CChurch's avatar

Amanda King doesnt appear to be worried by the manufacturers opinion of the synthetic chemicals they produce. I asked her in a comment here. She didn't address all my questions and quotes Parcelsus. Thing is he didn't have acces to synthetic petroleum based chemicals.

Rob (c137)'s avatar

Pfft, statins are toxic to the liver.... That's how they cut cholesterol which is made by the liver.

Anti cancer my ass.... Perhaps short term but if you slow the liver, you'll get other crap later.

And yet she isn't keen on fenbenzadole/ivermectin.

http://fenbendazole.substack.com/

Ryan Griffith's avatar

Do you have an opinion on the so-called "fasting mimicking diet?"