Thank you for the experiences shared here. Several themes worth highlighting:
The terrain perspective. Multiple commenters note that healthy animals on species-appropriate diets don't attract fleas the way toxic animals do. Fleas feed on what's coming out of the skin. Address the terrain, not just the parasite. This deserves its own essay.
Alternatives mentioned in comments: Flea combs with daily attention. Cedar oil, lavender, geranium (results vary). Raw diet. Dr. Janet Roark, DVM for essential oil protocols in small animals. Environmental management. These require effort but don't require poisoning the host.
The rabies thread. Several of you pulled on this. The mandatory repeated shots, the vet industry's dependence on them, the fear-based compliance—it mirrors patterns we see across vaccination generally. I've written about this: Rabies: A Very Old and Very Rotten Story.
For those seeking community: A private Facebook group, Flea & Tick Medications are Killing Our Animals, has over 63,000 members sharing experiences that never reach official incident databases. The group's size tells you something the product labels don't.
One comment that stayed with me: The cat treated with Advantage for six years who developed ataxia—loss of motor function—and now drags himself through the house. The owner did what they were told would protect their cat. Advantage contains imidacloprid, a neurotoxic insecticide. The cat developed neurological damage. The mechanism isn't mysterious. The grief of watching your animal live with the consequences of your trust in these products—that's a weight many of you carry. I'm sorry.
Keep sharing. The comments section often contains more useful information than the essay itself.
"Multiple commenters note that healthy animals on species-appropriate diets don't attract fleas the way toxic animals do." --
My animals simply could not be any healthier than they are, and they still attract fleas.
Let's be logical, eh?
Which would fleas prefer? A healthy animal, or one with toxins oozing out of its skin?
We hoover the carpets and bedding. We use flea combs. We've been through the flea drops bullshit numerous times and they last about a day or two. Washing the animals frequently seems to ruin their skin. So we ended up just hoovering and combing and agreeing to it as part of the price for living with animals. Seriously, we had more fleas WITH the drops than we've had without them.
Glad I Never bought into it, seemed illogical even to a young boy.I stopped taking animals to vets as they would always be pushing the shots and other poisons. Most are no better than the dumb doctors "treating" humans.
And what about the humans/owners of these pets? They often have these animals on their laps, on the beds, they pet them frequently. It can't be any better for humans and their children to be exposed to the neuro-toxins, either.
I haven’t used prophylactic flea and tick treatments on my cats and dogs for many years and I’ve found that a healthy animal deals with any fleas itself and I have had no problems. My dogs are only 4-6 kg in weight and I’m very aware that many veterinary medications are too strong for smaller dogs so if I have to dose them with medication, I titrate it more exactly for the dog’s weight. I haven’t had my dogs vaccinated in the last 15 years although the breeder has usually done the first vaccinations but I don’t follow up with boosters. Again, no problems with infection.
When my very fit outdoorsey 20 year old partner got 44 ticks embedded in his groin are you suggesting he was unhealthy ?? My partner now gets about 20 a day out in the forest .. he's very fit. fitter than most people. In my experience they bite anyone anywhere .. tho eventually you can build up immunity deterrent . The sheep and deer seem covered in them since they halted sheep dips. I think the whole ecology is sickly and increasing in 'parasites' .. maybe in a town there are too many other chemicals and that deters them ?
You describe a situation that seems very extreme to me. Does your partner do nothing to protect himself from all these ticks? The experience I was writing about was in the UK, in a forest with a lot of deer. I have never encountered anyone, human or animal that had as much tick exposure such as you describe - must be horrendous.
Scotland yes.. like I said we put on *all kinds of supposedly ‘deterrent’ substances .. nothing works, unless you slavvered it on every part of your skin which would be very unhealthy . the only place that’s worse for them is Dartmoor in my experience. Heavy smokers seem less prone to ticks and midgies and I’ve been told smearing diesel on ones skin works too, but I’m not going to try either myself.
Because I practice a non-medical non-pharma lifestyle, my dog never saw a vet. No vaccines or other medications for anything. He lived to the ripe old age of 16+ and he was a large breed. He died of old age but healthy. He never had kibble, although if you gave him some junk kibble he loved it, like humans love their McDonalds... I cooked for him all his life, gave him raw bones and meats and it was never a problem.
Same with my cat - no vaccines, no medication, no vet. He is lucky that we live in a house so he can go in and out easily and roam around. He brings us food from time to time, yes, as a cat is meant to do. He is also very healthy and content living in this cat heaven in the city.
People love their pets and want what is best for them. A friend spend hundreds of dollars on a bird that had to be given hormones because it would not lay eggs. It happily lived without laying eggs all its life but died soon after hormone treatments began...for a bird!
And because I have a healing practice oftentimes friends or clients will call in distress after a vet has told them their pet is dying. A few days or weeks later, with some simple remedies and the cat or dog is as good as new. One of them is a cat that is 17+ years old and we saved it already 3 times from wrong vet diagnoses and prognoses. Go figure. I wonder how many pets die from the "prevention" that is injected into them or crammed down their throat, including all the deworming and anti-flea etc. pesticides used...
Now there’s the added bonus of approval of the mRNA for our pets! As we know, this is not only a death sentence for them, but du to its design, will shed to us!! No, no, and no! The same decline with “normal” vax in humans can be seen in animals to begin with! Add the sorry excuses for food that’s sold as natural and healthy, and they just don’t stand a chance. People wondering why their pets are developing cancer and the myriad of other “diseases”, slay me.
One of my cats is terribly allergic to fleas. We had an mild infestation in our Florida when he was a kitten (his sibling from the same litter was not allergic BTW). He was scratching and lick off his fur. From then forward, for about 6 years, treated him monthly for fleas with Advantage, because at the time we were living in Florida where fleas are an issue 365 days a year. At age 6 he developed noticeable ataxia (first clumsiness, then loss of select motor function in his hind leg), at which point we discovered that Advantage fights fleas using a nerve agent. Although correlation does not mean causation, I suspect that our cats disability (or the extremity of it) is related to the flea treatment. Although he has a strong ability to kick, he can no longer walk and for the last 5-6 years drags himself (quite skillfully) about the house. He has full control of his elimination although in the last 6 months we have developed a program where we valet him to the box after meals. He vocalizes when he needs to go. Never again will I use these treatments.
My friends both had dogs, large ones, they died at ages 12 and almost 16, and had taken flea and tick products since pups. So I give mine too. We live in a flea and tick area, the dog is outside a large part of the day and sleeps on my bed. No need to say I do not want her to have parasites. If there were a working harmless solution I would immediately change to it but there is not. Shampoos damage the skin, and do not work well. So far she has had no fleas at all, and maybe 5 ticks in almost 11 years of life. So yes, the products work. Just like with humans on lifetime meds, one has to consider the good and the bad of what is available. Sad enough there is very little on the market that is harmless. The worst we had was trifexis, which she got the first time we went to the vet (when I got her she was covered in fleas, so I had to go).Now we have an old med that has been used for decades. It is an ivermectin type.
Did you ever try a flea/tick spray infused with cedar oil or lavender oil or a mixture of both? The spray itself can be any number of things including apple cider vinegar or aloe vera juice? Or a bandana with no more than 6 drops of EO all one oil or 1 drop of 6 oils? Insects hate geranium oil, cedar oil and lavender oil. What they do is repel the pests so the pest looks elsewhere for a suitable host. Cats have trouble with essential oils so the strategy of applying them is different.
Dr. Janet Roark, DVM specializes in EO for small animals.i got my information from her and she has tons of recipes for flea/tick sprays. I also comb my dog's fur with a flea comb that has droplets of black seed oil on to mix that with the dog's fur. You will find embedded ticks that way. Seems like a lot of work? No more than putting on make up every day.
I am using a cedar oil cream right now. geranium and lavender don't work for us. Smell good but that is all. I am an insect magnet myself so I have tried many natural repellents, none of which bring any relief. Someone even made a special spray with 8 or 9 different natural oils - nope. Makeup? what is that LOL. Haven't used in 30 years. After I worked in a lab where they made basics... threw it all out.
Since a few months I am using DMSO rollers on myself with good result. On dog, not so much.
Will check out this Dr. maybe she has some stuff I have not tried yet. Thanks for the tip>
we spray everything we can think of and still get dozens embedded each week (in humans) .. the problem is you need toxic levels of anything to start deterring them until natural immunity finally kicks in. There are large numbers of ticks around as the ecology is so unhealthy . We have to get the ecology back up to health. Some suggest the ticks and other parasites are helping to improve health overall .. so maybe its not even optimal to be spraying to deter them. Its quite complex isnt it :(
Count yourself lucky. Just like humans, many animals are sensitive to certain medications. Fortunately, functional vets are becoming more common and some pet owners are looking for alternative remedies. Rabies shots are another sore subject for me. One shot is sufficient for most dogs for life, but the law requires one every 3 years. Fear and ignorance keeps most people on board. Flu shots are in the same category.
A rabies shot killed one of my dogs! I was devastated..let’s face it, the FDA approves drugs for the pharmaceutical companies that pay them off. It’s a huge scam for decades. Most drugs have little or no safety profiles worth talking about, mostly propaganda! This is what we have so we have to see thru it all!
absolutely. we have a quite decent vet, but to my disappointment he did not know about the European rabies oral med, a once in a lifetime. he also did not know we get sprayed for rabies (for the wild animals, not for our pets!) I guess the govt gets a piece of the cake there, because why would they want pets injected if they already sprayed us? and what is rabies after all? if you read about it, you wonder if it might be something else, just like several human 'diseases'! I don 't trust any medical person anymore. I would rather go to a shaman! (quite a difference between Europe when I still lived there and the US. Now lots of them are just as fearful, but at the time, we went to the doc when needed, not when the doc thought you had to come for more crap)
The cases of rabies is miniscule, and most house dogs are not at risk. I share your distrust for the medical industrial complex. Iatrogenic deaths are the third killer in this country, but fear and ignorance keeps the masses in line. I recently was thrown out of the cabal because I hadn't been in over 3 years. Imagine that! It's not health care at all. It's a business and I was not contributing to the bottom line.
Rabies 'cases' have NOT (ever) been scientifically proven. I keep pulling on these threads whenever I encounter "news" of cases, and it is all assumptions, and 'detecting' via bogus lab testing. Just like the PCR.
you got thrown out??? I did not know this could happen. My former doctor, now retired, was amazed the last time he saw me, I had not been in in 10 years. He asked where if I had seen another doc. No. HE was flabbergasted. I think doctors in the US really think they keep their patients alive LOL. I am now on Medicare and got a huge reduction. I had just been thinking why I even pay for Medicare, but at this price I will keep it. Pocket filling it is.
OMG. so you HAD to go to another doctor! When I came to the US I had never heard of doctors who do not accept new patients. In Belgium where I am originally from, the doctor will take a patient, time or not. I have been seen by a doctor at 9 in the evening! Things are different there now too, but 20 years ago, they would see you no matter what. They also came to patient's homes, if need be in the middle of the night, a pair of pants and jacket over their pyamas. Doctors here are luxus horses, I know one who works 4 days a week, about 7 hours at most per day. They probably would let you die if you were lying in the street!!! not worth the name of doctor!
dogsnaturallymagazine.com has a plethora of articles on myriad issues affecting our companions. They have a chart of the vaccinations core(required0 and non-core and the length of time they appear to be effective -- far, FAR less than what is required by law.
It's not always "fear and ignorance" that keeps people doing the rabies shots, it's the fact that vets refuse to treat your pet(s) if you don't poison them.
Edited for typo. I swear, someday I will be able to type on this stupid phone.
There most definitely are natural and harmless solutions. It isn't about fleas. It's about your dogs health. Healthy dogs don't get fleas because they are not toxic. If you keep thinking the fleas are the problem, you're limiting yourself. Go back and ask why.
when I got my dog 8 weeks old she was covered in fleas. Since then, she has not had any. I am sorry you think that I am the problem. I am not going to sleep on the porch though.
With respect, you totally missed my point. Health is all about the terrain. Breeders feed toxic kibble and use boat loads of vet meds. That makes the dog toxic. And it's the toxicity that results in fleas. When the animal is not toxic, they are not releasing the food that fleas enjoy.
she did not come from a breeder. she came from a farm, she was born there and I got her straight from there.
we hardly ever go to the vet (usually to cut her nails) and she does not get kibble. (and neither do I, and I am constantly covered in mosquito bites! no remedy helps - tried for 60+ years)
what are they ?? we get about a dozen a day on us (humans) and nothing we've ever tried deters them .. nothing beyond natural immunity which takes many years ..
oops that seems to be the heartworm product, it is called heartguard. she got nexguard for fleas and ticks. both are on the market for a long time and advised by my long time dog friends. This is my first dog, before I had only cats who did not take any med at all. Never had any fleas, and eat the ticks off of each other. They are outside though. Dog is house dog.
Thank you, @Unbekoming for this very important article highlighting once again the dangers of chemicals like pyrethroides/permethrin - I keep pointing this out to any pet owner I meet. I might add, that not only the pets' health is in great danger, but one should remember, that kids and of course adults, handle, play and stroke their dogs and cats a lot, kids stick their faces in to the pet's fur, and so on .. which means, that they will gather regularly small amounts of the applied toxin on their hands (especially if spot-on and collars are used) and the toxic residue will seep into the childs' /adults' blood stream. It will continuously build up in the body and could cause harm to their (nervous system) health as well!
Not forgetting that a species specific diet of raw meat and bones totally eliminates fleas. Fleas are consuming the toxins coming out of the skin from a toxic diet and vet meds. The industry doesn't understand this. They are locked in the germ theory of killing what they perceive as the enemy. Killing never works in the long run. Understanding the source of the problem and addressing that naturally works very well.
If rabies existed there would be proof of said animal having it. That has never been proven. When I found this out I never revaccinated. Up until my dog was 7, I did. His shots were always in the withers. Flea medication was applied in the same location.
When I took my dog home he went crazy, writhing on the floor because he couldn't reach the site of injury. I took him to the sink to wash the area to give him some relief and never applied tick ointment again. And never vaccinated him again. And never saw a vet again.
I lost my dog at 14 1/2 years. His demise started at the injection site. Five years later I received a new dog, same breed. Now 3 years old. Feisty and uncontrollable as shit. Needs bookoo training and discipline. Never seen a vet. Curious, that I never had these behavioral issues with my 1st juiced up pet, but now do, with an unvaccinated pet. Interpret that as you will.
I don't use flea and tick poison on my small dog; a flea comb works fine and Daisy doesn't mind the extra attention. We also spray the yard occasionally. My concern is mosquitos and the heartworm connection, a very real and serious problem in my area. The product suggested by the vet is extremely toxic. Research led me to Milbeguard heartworm protection. A plus is that it is less expensive.
No. I got it from Chewy but I had to get a script from my vet. I don't think he will do it again without her having a heartworm check. And he might insist on a rabies shot, and that's a deal breaker for me. I'm going to check with other area vets; maybe I can get lucky. Daisy has to be on heartworm prevention; we have a plethora of mosquitoes in the summer here in eastern NC.
"In some cases, toxins in their saliva cause serious illness—tick paralysis being the clearest example, caused by neurotoxins secreted during feeding." ---
Do you have a reference for that claim? I would like to see how they proved to themselves that they found toxic saliva in ticks. That would be a unique study in and of itself, right? It would include controls to make sure they weren't bullshitting themselves, right? And it will reveal who paid for the study, right?
I wonder if that's important to you? Scrutinizing the claim that supports the murder of ticks and the unjustified panic about them so people will buy a product? I hope so.
Thanks for sharing this important information. Like all other medicines, human and animal alike, it is in some way indicated to either kill us or make us dependent on the medical system. I’m convinced the cabal who did worldwide genocide via mRNA “vaccines” is also trying to eliminate our pets.
Don't know about the USA but to have a dog treated for tick poisoning in Australia costs upwards of $6000. Sydney has very sandy soil and hot humid weather, perfect habitat for ticks and fleas that simply can't be combatted with essential oils and raw foods. My dog was poisoned with permethrin and the vet hospital bill was $10,000.
Author's Note
Thank you for the experiences shared here. Several themes worth highlighting:
The terrain perspective. Multiple commenters note that healthy animals on species-appropriate diets don't attract fleas the way toxic animals do. Fleas feed on what's coming out of the skin. Address the terrain, not just the parasite. This deserves its own essay.
Alternatives mentioned in comments: Flea combs with daily attention. Cedar oil, lavender, geranium (results vary). Raw diet. Dr. Janet Roark, DVM for essential oil protocols in small animals. Environmental management. These require effort but don't require poisoning the host.
The rabies thread. Several of you pulled on this. The mandatory repeated shots, the vet industry's dependence on them, the fear-based compliance—it mirrors patterns we see across vaccination generally. I've written about this: Rabies: A Very Old and Very Rotten Story.
https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/rabies
For those seeking community: A private Facebook group, Flea & Tick Medications are Killing Our Animals, has over 63,000 members sharing experiences that never reach official incident databases. The group's size tells you something the product labels don't.
One comment that stayed with me: The cat treated with Advantage for six years who developed ataxia—loss of motor function—and now drags himself through the house. The owner did what they were told would protect their cat. Advantage contains imidacloprid, a neurotoxic insecticide. The cat developed neurological damage. The mechanism isn't mysterious. The grief of watching your animal live with the consequences of your trust in these products—that's a weight many of you carry. I'm sorry.
Keep sharing. The comments section often contains more useful information than the essay itself.
—Unbekoming
"Multiple commenters note that healthy animals on species-appropriate diets don't attract fleas the way toxic animals do." --
My animals simply could not be any healthier than they are, and they still attract fleas.
Let's be logical, eh?
Which would fleas prefer? A healthy animal, or one with toxins oozing out of its skin?
We hoover the carpets and bedding. We use flea combs. We've been through the flea drops bullshit numerous times and they last about a day or two. Washing the animals frequently seems to ruin their skin. So we ended up just hoovering and combing and agreeing to it as part of the price for living with animals. Seriously, we had more fleas WITH the drops than we've had without them.
Glad I Never bought into it, seemed illogical even to a young boy.I stopped taking animals to vets as they would always be pushing the shots and other poisons. Most are no better than the dumb doctors "treating" humans.
And what about the humans/owners of these pets? They often have these animals on their laps, on the beds, they pet them frequently. It can't be any better for humans and their children to be exposed to the neuro-toxins, either.
I haven’t used prophylactic flea and tick treatments on my cats and dogs for many years and I’ve found that a healthy animal deals with any fleas itself and I have had no problems. My dogs are only 4-6 kg in weight and I’m very aware that many veterinary medications are too strong for smaller dogs so if I have to dose them with medication, I titrate it more exactly for the dog’s weight. I haven’t had my dogs vaccinated in the last 15 years although the breeder has usually done the first vaccinations but I don’t follow up with boosters. Again, no problems with infection.
When my very fit outdoorsey 20 year old partner got 44 ticks embedded in his groin are you suggesting he was unhealthy ?? My partner now gets about 20 a day out in the forest .. he's very fit. fitter than most people. In my experience they bite anyone anywhere .. tho eventually you can build up immunity deterrent . The sheep and deer seem covered in them since they halted sheep dips. I think the whole ecology is sickly and increasing in 'parasites' .. maybe in a town there are too many other chemicals and that deters them ?
You describe a situation that seems very extreme to me. Does your partner do nothing to protect himself from all these ticks? The experience I was writing about was in the UK, in a forest with a lot of deer. I have never encountered anyone, human or animal that had as much tick exposure such as you describe - must be horrendous.
Scotland yes.. like I said we put on *all kinds of supposedly ‘deterrent’ substances .. nothing works, unless you slavvered it on every part of your skin which would be very unhealthy . the only place that’s worse for them is Dartmoor in my experience. Heavy smokers seem less prone to ticks and midgies and I’ve been told smearing diesel on ones skin works too, but I’m not going to try either myself.
Because I practice a non-medical non-pharma lifestyle, my dog never saw a vet. No vaccines or other medications for anything. He lived to the ripe old age of 16+ and he was a large breed. He died of old age but healthy. He never had kibble, although if you gave him some junk kibble he loved it, like humans love their McDonalds... I cooked for him all his life, gave him raw bones and meats and it was never a problem.
Same with my cat - no vaccines, no medication, no vet. He is lucky that we live in a house so he can go in and out easily and roam around. He brings us food from time to time, yes, as a cat is meant to do. He is also very healthy and content living in this cat heaven in the city.
People love their pets and want what is best for them. A friend spend hundreds of dollars on a bird that had to be given hormones because it would not lay eggs. It happily lived without laying eggs all its life but died soon after hormone treatments began...for a bird!
And because I have a healing practice oftentimes friends or clients will call in distress after a vet has told them their pet is dying. A few days or weeks later, with some simple remedies and the cat or dog is as good as new. One of them is a cat that is 17+ years old and we saved it already 3 times from wrong vet diagnoses and prognoses. Go figure. I wonder how many pets die from the "prevention" that is injected into them or crammed down their throat, including all the deworming and anti-flea etc. pesticides used...
Now there’s the added bonus of approval of the mRNA for our pets! As we know, this is not only a death sentence for them, but du to its design, will shed to us!! No, no, and no! The same decline with “normal” vax in humans can be seen in animals to begin with! Add the sorry excuses for food that’s sold as natural and healthy, and they just don’t stand a chance. People wondering why their pets are developing cancer and the myriad of other “diseases”, slay me.
Its already in the rabies. One vet said ," yep, nothing but the best for our animals here." 🙄
I’d put money on that he also received the bioweapon himself! So many, too many, remain hopelessly blinded.
Most likely.
One of my cats is terribly allergic to fleas. We had an mild infestation in our Florida when he was a kitten (his sibling from the same litter was not allergic BTW). He was scratching and lick off his fur. From then forward, for about 6 years, treated him monthly for fleas with Advantage, because at the time we were living in Florida where fleas are an issue 365 days a year. At age 6 he developed noticeable ataxia (first clumsiness, then loss of select motor function in his hind leg), at which point we discovered that Advantage fights fleas using a nerve agent. Although correlation does not mean causation, I suspect that our cats disability (or the extremity of it) is related to the flea treatment. Although he has a strong ability to kick, he can no longer walk and for the last 5-6 years drags himself (quite skillfully) about the house. He has full control of his elimination although in the last 6 months we have developed a program where we valet him to the box after meals. He vocalizes when he needs to go. Never again will I use these treatments.
My friends both had dogs, large ones, they died at ages 12 and almost 16, and had taken flea and tick products since pups. So I give mine too. We live in a flea and tick area, the dog is outside a large part of the day and sleeps on my bed. No need to say I do not want her to have parasites. If there were a working harmless solution I would immediately change to it but there is not. Shampoos damage the skin, and do not work well. So far she has had no fleas at all, and maybe 5 ticks in almost 11 years of life. So yes, the products work. Just like with humans on lifetime meds, one has to consider the good and the bad of what is available. Sad enough there is very little on the market that is harmless. The worst we had was trifexis, which she got the first time we went to the vet (when I got her she was covered in fleas, so I had to go).Now we have an old med that has been used for decades. It is an ivermectin type.
Did you ever try a flea/tick spray infused with cedar oil or lavender oil or a mixture of both? The spray itself can be any number of things including apple cider vinegar or aloe vera juice? Or a bandana with no more than 6 drops of EO all one oil or 1 drop of 6 oils? Insects hate geranium oil, cedar oil and lavender oil. What they do is repel the pests so the pest looks elsewhere for a suitable host. Cats have trouble with essential oils so the strategy of applying them is different.
Dr. Janet Roark, DVM specializes in EO for small animals.i got my information from her and she has tons of recipes for flea/tick sprays. I also comb my dog's fur with a flea comb that has droplets of black seed oil on to mix that with the dog's fur. You will find embedded ticks that way. Seems like a lot of work? No more than putting on make up every day.
I am using a cedar oil cream right now. geranium and lavender don't work for us. Smell good but that is all. I am an insect magnet myself so I have tried many natural repellents, none of which bring any relief. Someone even made a special spray with 8 or 9 different natural oils - nope. Makeup? what is that LOL. Haven't used in 30 years. After I worked in a lab where they made basics... threw it all out.
Since a few months I am using DMSO rollers on myself with good result. On dog, not so much.
Will check out this Dr. maybe she has some stuff I have not tried yet. Thanks for the tip>
we spray everything we can think of and still get dozens embedded each week (in humans) .. the problem is you need toxic levels of anything to start deterring them until natural immunity finally kicks in. There are large numbers of ticks around as the ecology is so unhealthy . We have to get the ecology back up to health. Some suggest the ticks and other parasites are helping to improve health overall .. so maybe its not even optimal to be spraying to deter them. Its quite complex isnt it :(
Great advise. Thanks!
Count yourself lucky. Just like humans, many animals are sensitive to certain medications. Fortunately, functional vets are becoming more common and some pet owners are looking for alternative remedies. Rabies shots are another sore subject for me. One shot is sufficient for most dogs for life, but the law requires one every 3 years. Fear and ignorance keeps most people on board. Flu shots are in the same category.
"One shot is sufficient for most dogs for life"
Vaccines are a scam. Rabies is a scam.
Nobody needs any vaccines, ever.
A rabies shot killed one of my dogs! I was devastated..let’s face it, the FDA approves drugs for the pharmaceutical companies that pay them off. It’s a huge scam for decades. Most drugs have little or no safety profiles worth talking about, mostly propaganda! This is what we have so we have to see thru it all!
absolutely. we have a quite decent vet, but to my disappointment he did not know about the European rabies oral med, a once in a lifetime. he also did not know we get sprayed for rabies (for the wild animals, not for our pets!) I guess the govt gets a piece of the cake there, because why would they want pets injected if they already sprayed us? and what is rabies after all? if you read about it, you wonder if it might be something else, just like several human 'diseases'! I don 't trust any medical person anymore. I would rather go to a shaman! (quite a difference between Europe when I still lived there and the US. Now lots of them are just as fearful, but at the time, we went to the doc when needed, not when the doc thought you had to come for more crap)
The cases of rabies is miniscule, and most house dogs are not at risk. I share your distrust for the medical industrial complex. Iatrogenic deaths are the third killer in this country, but fear and ignorance keeps the masses in line. I recently was thrown out of the cabal because I hadn't been in over 3 years. Imagine that! It's not health care at all. It's a business and I was not contributing to the bottom line.
Rabies 'cases' have NOT (ever) been scientifically proven. I keep pulling on these threads whenever I encounter "news" of cases, and it is all assumptions, and 'detecting' via bogus lab testing. Just like the PCR.
you got thrown out??? I did not know this could happen. My former doctor, now retired, was amazed the last time he saw me, I had not been in in 10 years. He asked where if I had seen another doc. No. HE was flabbergasted. I think doctors in the US really think they keep their patients alive LOL. I am now on Medicare and got a huge reduction. I had just been thinking why I even pay for Medicare, but at this price I will keep it. Pocket filling it is.
The receptionist said since I had not been to the practice in over 3 years, I was considered a new patient and they were not accepting new patients.,
OMG. so you HAD to go to another doctor! When I came to the US I had never heard of doctors who do not accept new patients. In Belgium where I am originally from, the doctor will take a patient, time or not. I have been seen by a doctor at 9 in the evening! Things are different there now too, but 20 years ago, they would see you no matter what. They also came to patient's homes, if need be in the middle of the night, a pair of pants and jacket over their pyamas. Doctors here are luxus horses, I know one who works 4 days a week, about 7 hours at most per day. They probably would let you die if you were lying in the street!!! not worth the name of doctor!
dogsnaturallymagazine.com has a plethora of articles on myriad issues affecting our companions. They have a chart of the vaccinations core(required0 and non-core and the length of time they appear to be effective -- far, FAR less than what is required by law.
Differing sensitivities between individuals and breeds, I agree. But rabies is a complete SCAM -- v@x UNnecessary.
It's not always "fear and ignorance" that keeps people doing the rabies shots, it's the fact that vets refuse to treat your pet(s) if you don't poison them.
Edited for typo. I swear, someday I will be able to type on this stupid phone.
Not all vets. But you have to search for them.
I don't understand how they can sleep at night, but you're right. I'm worried because I need my vet to get heartworm prevention.
dogsnaturallymagazine.com delivers warnings regarding those heartworm medications. They also sell a product that can be used instead.
There most definitely are natural and harmless solutions. It isn't about fleas. It's about your dogs health. Healthy dogs don't get fleas because they are not toxic. If you keep thinking the fleas are the problem, you're limiting yourself. Go back and ask why.
when I got my dog 8 weeks old she was covered in fleas. Since then, she has not had any. I am sorry you think that I am the problem. I am not going to sleep on the porch though.
With respect, you totally missed my point. Health is all about the terrain. Breeders feed toxic kibble and use boat loads of vet meds. That makes the dog toxic. And it's the toxicity that results in fleas. When the animal is not toxic, they are not releasing the food that fleas enjoy.
My dog eats a raw food diet that keeps her healthy, but we still had a few fleas this summer. The flea comb works great.
she did not come from a breeder. she came from a farm, she was born there and I got her straight from there.
we hardly ever go to the vet (usually to cut her nails) and she does not get kibble. (and neither do I, and I am constantly covered in mosquito bites! no remedy helps - tried for 60+ years)
what are they ?? we get about a dozen a day on us (humans) and nothing we've ever tried deters them .. nothing beyond natural immunity which takes many years ..
What's the name of the Ivermectin type medicine?
oops that seems to be the heartworm product, it is called heartguard. she got nexguard for fleas and ticks. both are on the market for a long time and advised by my long time dog friends. This is my first dog, before I had only cats who did not take any med at all. Never had any fleas, and eat the ticks off of each other. They are outside though. Dog is house dog.
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Thank you, @Unbekoming for this very important article highlighting once again the dangers of chemicals like pyrethroides/permethrin - I keep pointing this out to any pet owner I meet. I might add, that not only the pets' health is in great danger, but one should remember, that kids and of course adults, handle, play and stroke their dogs and cats a lot, kids stick their faces in to the pet's fur, and so on .. which means, that they will gather regularly small amounts of the applied toxin on their hands (especially if spot-on and collars are used) and the toxic residue will seep into the childs' /adults' blood stream. It will continuously build up in the body and could cause harm to their (nervous system) health as well!
Not forgetting that a species specific diet of raw meat and bones totally eliminates fleas. Fleas are consuming the toxins coming out of the skin from a toxic diet and vet meds. The industry doesn't understand this. They are locked in the germ theory of killing what they perceive as the enemy. Killing never works in the long run. Understanding the source of the problem and addressing that naturally works very well.
If rabies existed there would be proof of said animal having it. That has never been proven. When I found this out I never revaccinated. Up until my dog was 7, I did. His shots were always in the withers. Flea medication was applied in the same location.
When I took my dog home he went crazy, writhing on the floor because he couldn't reach the site of injury. I took him to the sink to wash the area to give him some relief and never applied tick ointment again. And never vaccinated him again. And never saw a vet again.
I lost my dog at 14 1/2 years. His demise started at the injection site. Five years later I received a new dog, same breed. Now 3 years old. Feisty and uncontrollable as shit. Needs bookoo training and discipline. Never seen a vet. Curious, that I never had these behavioral issues with my 1st juiced up pet, but now do, with an unvaccinated pet. Interpret that as you will.
I wonder how influential the movie To Kill A Mockingbird had on scaring people regarding rabies? Great movie even so!
And Disney's "Old Yeller".
Yes, Forgot about that one.
Disney has been and remains one of the primary sources of psychological manipulation from an early age :(
Walt was an evil guy whose persona is an inversion of who he was. A C.I.A operative among other things.
Yessiree. One of my many 'wake-up heartbreaks' when I examined him. So many (all?) of my childhood and adulthood faves have fallen to the truth.
I will have to revisit that movie as I do not remember that. Given the boring trash available on streaming, I'm gonna enjoy going back in time. Thanks
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I don't use flea and tick poison on my small dog; a flea comb works fine and Daisy doesn't mind the extra attention. We also spray the yard occasionally. My concern is mosquitos and the heartworm connection, a very real and serious problem in my area. The product suggested by the vet is extremely toxic. Research led me to Milbeguard heartworm protection. A plus is that it is less expensive.
Can Mikbeguard be purchased without a prescription?
No. I got it from Chewy but I had to get a script from my vet. I don't think he will do it again without her having a heartworm check. And he might insist on a rabies shot, and that's a deal breaker for me. I'm going to check with other area vets; maybe I can get lucky. Daisy has to be on heartworm prevention; we have a plethora of mosquitoes in the summer here in eastern NC.
Good stuff!
"In some cases, toxins in their saliva cause serious illness—tick paralysis being the clearest example, caused by neurotoxins secreted during feeding." ---
Do you have a reference for that claim? I would like to see how they proved to themselves that they found toxic saliva in ticks. That would be a unique study in and of itself, right? It would include controls to make sure they weren't bullshitting themselves, right? And it will reveal who paid for the study, right?
I wonder if that's important to you? Scrutinizing the claim that supports the murder of ticks and the unjustified panic about them so people will buy a product? I hope so.
When ticks found my dogs, I hand brushed the dogs everyday to find the ticks, removed them and burned the ticks with a lighter.
Thank you! So many 'products' poisoning our loved ones and us.
Thanks for sharing this important information. Like all other medicines, human and animal alike, it is in some way indicated to either kill us or make us dependent on the medical system. I’m convinced the cabal who did worldwide genocide via mRNA “vaccines” is also trying to eliminate our pets.
Don't know about the USA but to have a dog treated for tick poisoning in Australia costs upwards of $6000. Sydney has very sandy soil and hot humid weather, perfect habitat for ticks and fleas that simply can't be combatted with essential oils and raw foods. My dog was poisoned with permethrin and the vet hospital bill was $10,000.