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CanadaChick asks whether the cayenne compress works for burning neuropathy or only cold neuropathy. O'Neill's material focuses on cold feet and loss of sensation, so I can't speak directly to burning presentations. The underlying principle—moving blood to starved tissue—suggests it might help, but burning sensations could indicate a different mechanism. Worth trying on a small area first to see how the tissue responds. If readers have experience with burning neuropathy and cayenne, I'd welcome hearing about it.

myisland notes the story feels incomplete. Fair point. O'Neill describes the man standing at the end of the program, with tears, saying he had no idea he'd get that kind of help. She doesn't provide long-term follow-up. This is the nature of retreat-based care—she sees people intensively for a period, then they go home. What we have is the immediate outcome: a man who arrived in a wheelchair, felt rocks become pins and needles, and stood up.

Marc Girardot connects this to his work on stem cells and the benefits of walking on bare feet. The observable pattern he points to—stimulation without damage leading to systemic repair—is worth sitting with, whatever framework we use to explain it.

philalethes provides the Sam Biser book link and a piece of history I hadn't encountered: Col. Bo Gritz teaching soldiers to pack wounds with cayenne powder to stop bleeding in the field. Military medicine, operating under life-or-death constraints, apparently figured out what civilian medicine forgot. The Dr. Schulze thread is worth following too—a man who cured his own heart valves and went on to treat "incurables" in Malibu.

ST shares 2007 research on capsaicin injections reversing type 1 diabetes in mice. The Cell paper is still there. The follow-up research, apparently, is not.

Roman S Shapoval and Certiorari offer their own cayenne drink recipes—useful for those who want internal applications alongside the compress protocol.

jacquelyn sauriol points to Buhner's Healing Lyme for anyone dealing with that particular challenge. Plant protocols from someone who understood them deeply.

And to those planning to try the compress for themselves or family members—STH and others—I hope it helps. Simple things sometimes do.

Thank you for reading.

Marc Girardot's avatar

Mon ami,

That makes a lot of sense, and is very much aligned with the theory I am developing.

Why?

Because the feet are loaded with stem cells (just like the gut).

The reason walking (with protective shoes) is so beneficial to health is that feet stem cells are stimulated, but there's no damage to heal, so the stem cells go on and roam the body to repair elsewhere.

As I described in my Sybstack and my book, MS is caused by leaks in the BBB. Circulating endothelial stem cells can repair that. It might take more time to repair the damage of degeneration, and sometimes it's likely impossible, but overall this is one way to heal.

Thanks for this.

Best, Marc Girardot

Unbekoming's avatar

Thanks for the note Marc, and hope you are well.

Steve Clough's avatar

Where is the evidence that the feet are loaded with stem cells? I keep hearing over and over about the wonders of stem cells (particularly with hyperbaric oxygen treatment)….but where are the actual studies backing that up???

Marc Girardot's avatar

Evidence on hbot, I suggest you do your homework, respectfully. Go to Google Scholar or buy a book or two and read. FYI it's actually authorized by the FDA to revascularize and regenerate necrosed tissue...

You can even buy my book, there are many references.

As to evidence feet are loaded with stem cells, think... What are the parts in the body that need the most regeneration? The gut, regenerated every 3days, the skin to substitute old keratocyte and reactto skin burns, the feet and hands because they are constantly worn out. I'll propose also the bone marrow to generate red and white blood cells in billions every day, the liver and the bladder because of the aggression, and the testis for obvious reasons.

KoalaPower's avatar

Amazing how many natural remedies can do a much better job than "modern medicine". We need to keep spreading the word of natural remedies. Website Earthclinic has some too.

Lenmor1776's avatar

Just wish more ppl would consider this instead of the white coats which know nothing of these real remedies.

philalethes's avatar

Here's link to Sam Biser book on Cayenne, an interview with Dr. Richard Schulze, who early on cured his own faulty heart valves with so much cayenne he was called Dr. Cayenne when he attended Dr. Christopher's herbal school.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TQS00mITy1t1GL5plXpxrBqykUWDiv4c?usp=sharing

Schulze went on to open a clinic in Malibu where he cured many "incurables" the medicos had given up on. He added cayenne to every herbal extract his lab made, to enhance absorption.

(still making highest quality concentrates at https://www.herbdoc.com/ )

Schulze said if he could only take two herbs to the proverbial desert island, it would be Cayenne, and Lobelia.

In the 1990's I took a citizens defense class with Col. Bo Gritz, famous (or notorious) Green Beret who ran for President. In the field medicine part, he said they used powdered cayenne to stuff into wounds and it would stop the bleeding. Mixed with water and swallowed it also stopped internal bleeding until they could medivac out to a hospital.

iheartpugs's avatar

Great info! Thanks for sharing.

Moe's avatar

I've been a big fan of Dr Schulz for decades...love his products.

Transcriber B's avatar

Thank you for this.

Why isn't it better known, you ask. I think we all here in this comments section know the answer. It doesn't make money for Big Pharma nor for the doctors. But also, many patients (and I'm thinking of many people I know personally) dismiss this sort of remedy as old-fashioned and therefore silly bunk; they only want the "modern" thing they get from a doctor's prescription. It's a whole different way of seeing the world, and it seems many will defend it, even as they suffer terribly, to their grave.

Lisa's avatar

A pill for every ill is what people have become accustomed to

wellness.com's avatar

It's been well known for decades. Extensively studied by those evil scientists.

Marketed for decades - OTC or prescription.

But sure, you all know ...

Capsaicin activates TRPV1 receptors on nociceptive C-fibers, triggering release of substance P and CGRP. This causes vasodilation, neurogenic inflammation, and the characteristic burning sensation.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Truly amazing. I love cayenne + apple cider vinegar in water before a meal, helps get the juices flowing. I will dig into Kloss's work some more. Thank you!

Mary C's avatar

Interesting - can you share quantities please?

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

I put a tsp or two of ACV + 1/4 tsp or so of cayenne in 16 oz of water and drink first thing in the morning. Some people's stomachs can't tolerate this first thing, so you may want to tread lightly (:

Certiorari's avatar

I have a recipe that I love:

Herbal tea

juice of 1 lemon or 2 limes

1/2 tsp cayenne

pinch of salt

1-2 tbs raw honey

It is incredible.

CM Maccioli's avatar

I like your recipe, but methinks I will halve that to a 8 oz of water. 16 oz of anything in the a.m. will make me barf.

ST's avatar

In 2007, I read news about injecting capsaicin in pancreas to revert type 1 (autoimmune) diabetes. Links to the news and the scientific paper are given below. I have always thought that this research was of great importance, but since then I haven’t heard anything about it.

https://www.diabetesincontrol.com/chili-extract-a-possible-cure-for-diabetes/

https://www.wanderings.net/notebook/Main/DiabetesCureNerves?from=Main.DiabetesCuredWithPepperCapsaicin

https://www.thetruthaboutfoodandhealth.com/healtharticles/capsaicin-chili-peppers-cures-diabetes.html

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(06)01534-0

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Of course doctors do not know this easy therapy ! It heals ! they will lose a milking cow if they tell.

wellness.com's avatar

"of course"

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3462404/

That paper was by actual NIH scientists - not what you morons describe as "an NIH paper," for every paper referenced at PubMed

https://www.qutenza.com/

https://www.webmd.com/drugs/capsaicin-salonpas-zostrix

Paula Mitchell's avatar

Thank you for this information, I much prefer natural remedies to big Pharma costly snake oil!

jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Healed Lyme* with an all plant protocol this summer; here to say, the plants are older and smarter than any goofy drugs we can cook up in a lab.

Healing Lyme by Buhner, available at Alibris and AbeBooks last I checked. Buhner also wrote 2 books on Lyme secondary infections. He is very readable and his protocols quite simple.

This protocol can heal Lyme even after antibiotics have failed, this is discussed as well.

STH's avatar

Thank you! My husband has had occasional peripheral neuropathy (perhaps every couple of months for 2-3 nights) in his feet for years. Of course no doctor has offered anything helpful. I found the study on benfotiamine so he takes that twice a day. It seems to help a little? I can’t wait to try this!

Mary Makary's avatar

"Of course no doctor has offered anything .."

Your contention is not credible.

STH's avatar

Are you bored?

wellness.com's avatar

You are lying. There are multiple products approved for neuropathic pain, both oral and topical - and many more that have been used off-label for decades.

STH's avatar

No actually I’m not. Maybe I could have phrased it “Nothing helpful that was not a pharmaceutical with side effects worse than the condition”? So since you’re so f-ing helpful and not just trolling, why don’t you recommend something without side effects?

Praise Dear Leader's avatar

Do you think topical capsacin is free of "side effects?" Especially spoonfuls of cayenne in olive oil? Every batch will differ.

These products have been available for years.

Informed Consent Freedom's avatar

Topical capsaicin medications have been marketed in North America for decades. Creams, ointments, patches, dressings - with or without other active ingredients. In various bases.

Available over the counter, and prescription at higher concentrations of 8%-10% (by weight).

Cayenne pepper contains varying amounts of capsaicin.

You failed to mention any of that. Your lies of omission are unbekoming.

myisland's avatar

So what became of the patient who wrapped their feet? Were they healed? This story is incomplete.

Lewis S. Coleman, MD's avatar

This is fascinating. Capillary gate theory postulates a submicroscopic, molecular level mechanism that regulates microvascular perfusion in accord with autonomic balance to govern tissue perfusion, tissue oxygenation, and organ function. It originated in the 1920’s based on the observation that capillary surface area is far greater than that of all larger vessels combined, so a capillary gate mechanism would be far more efficient that the prevailing medical notion that “vasoconstriction” and “vasodilation” regulate hemodynamic physiology. This conventional explanation of hemodynamic pathophysiology cannot explain numerous observations, and it ignores the “non-Newtonian” nature of mammalian blood, which exponentially inhibits flow turbulence in accord with acceleration. My guess would be that the cayenne stimulates parasympathetic nervous activity that “opens” the capillary gate, increases microvascular perfusion, and enhances tissue oxygenation. Those interested should seek my book called “50 Years Lost in Medical Advance: The Discovery of Hans Selye’s Stress Mechanism” that is available via Amazon.com. www.stressmechanism.com

Dr. Wingshan's avatar

Love cayenne. Put it on a lot of my food to eat. But cayenne has to be at least 80k shu or more to have more medicinal properties.