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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

What makes this even more interesting is that, replacement or not, the Beatles themselves were already operating inside a Tavistock Institute–era culture-shaping framework. Once you see that, the question shifts. It’s less “Did Paul die?” and more “How little disruption does a mass psychological construct actually require to keep functioning?”

Whether one man was replaced or not, the signal never stopped, the narrative never broke, and millions kept seeing what they were conditioned to see. In that sense, Paul Is Dead becomes a case study not in celebrity mystery, but in perception management and conformity at scale.

Unbekoming's avatar

Great comment, thanks.

j t's avatar
Dec 21Edited

James Perloff has written about the Tavistockian Beatles. Go read him. It would appear, by much evidence, that much if not most of the Beatles' music was written for them by musicians at Tavistock, by all evidence, for the purpose of effecting societal change ... yes, a psy-op.

And beyond the Billy-became-Paul story, which again by all evidence is undeniable, is the story of the car crash. If many don't want to "go there" with the Wm Shepherd / Billy Shears switcheroo, even more, including the majority of even those that do believe the evidence for Paul's "replacement," won't even consider the very distinct possibility, if not probability, that that car crash was not an accident (or even if he was already dead--there was no apparent autopsy or criminal investigation). Paul had to go. Why? (And so it continues....)

Missfit Infinitum's avatar

Yes, I've heard that one too. That the Beatles never wrote their own music. Now that is a rabbit hole! Theodor W. Adorno, sociologist, musician. and member of the Frankfurt School has been suggested as one possible contender.

j t's avatar
Dec 22Edited

Read -- "Hey, Hey, We're the Beatles!" -- July 28, 2023

https://jamesperloff.net/hey-hey-were-the-beatles/

It is apparently a Guest Post written by Patrick O'Carroll w/an Intro by JP.

And if you want more (source of much of Patrick's writings) -- https://sageofquay.com/

CM Maccioli's avatar

I admit, I gave that theory a go. Was he an out of control druggie? Did someone tamper with the car brakes? Wouldn't put anything past the British. In the US at that time we had Paul Look alike contests. People submitted photos. Later on we had Elvis contests. Coincidental or predictive programming?

Ron.C's avatar

As someone once said, "It is easier to fool people than convincing them they have been fooled"

CM Maccioli's avatar

One of my favorite quotes

Ron.C's avatar

What makes this situation crazier is that everyone involved are telling the public what the truth is. I say all the time, just because you may not understand something or can't conceive why someone else does something because you would never do that particular thing (pedophelia would be the strongest example in that case) doesn't mean it can't be true. One could go down a laundry list of so called false flag events of the 20thc to the present where it is now known were not what history told us it was but still the history books and the public's opinion go mostly unchanged. I call it thickheadedness.

Jon's avatar

I hate the expression "laundry list"! Unless you're using it to refer to a real one.

Celeste's avatar

Super interesting & news to me. Thank you for compiling all of this. Wonder what else I’ve accepted as true that isn’t? I’ve become very skeptical these past several years. Serves me well.

Since college I’ve always observed that people in groups make poor decisions. And maybe not fair, but I’ve always said men in groups (male dominated groups) are more likely to make bad decisions that are impactful to others thus potentially more dangerous. Especially young men.

Brainwashing + Asch conformity is particularly potentially dangerous.

Ernie Rockwell's avatar

Don’t get me wrong, I love women and am happily married. Men have done many evil things but also many benevolent things.

I truly believed that women in power would be better but a lot of them are just as evil and misguided and power drunk as the men.

It comes down to the individual, as always.

CM Maccioli's avatar

Ahh, ain't that sweet. I wouldn't vote for putting a woman in a powerful position for love or money. They are not as capable as men.

Johan's avatar

It’s all total bullshit. The band was actively trolling all of these conspiracy theorist wackos. Good for them.

pimaCanyon's avatar

there is one curious thing that debunks all of this: the placement of and structure of veins on the back of the hand. You see the same pattern of veins on the back of McCartney's hand both before and after his supposed death.

I tried to find the youtube video that presented this evidence, but not finding it now. If I find it, I'll edit this and put the link here.

Yeowoman's avatar

the photos of ther teeth are always from different angles .. the teeth look to be the same to me. The mole on the face and scar seem to be the same too. Ive not yet seen convincing evidence long term . A few stand ins maybe but the overall story I'm not taken with personally.

Proton Magic's avatar

The only real way to know if younger Paul McCartney was the older are full sets of dental xrays, not DNA. Unless the older Paul got extensive dental and root work erasing everything before, it would be clear-assuming you personally got the xrays from the 2 persons. Fingerprints are nearly as good, but again you have to do the prints yourself if YOU want to be sure.

Even so, with all the rumors, if I was the real older Paul I would submit myself to prints, dental xrays, and bone structure xrays, height and body measurements, etc. just to get the nasty rumors off my back. Did older Paul do that? I didn't think so-so there's your answer.

CM Maccioli's avatar

As a phlebotomist, I knew where to hit a vein if it was visible or not. Today, they go into hands because it's easier (and painful) when I never did. The placement of veins on the hard are not arbitrary. If they seem to disappear from one person to the next it's because of weight, age, elasticity, hydration or damage. Conversely, same body structure, age weight etc., same vein placement. Not a distinguishing characteristic.

pimaCanyon's avatar

I'm talking about the pattern, the layout of the veins on the back of the hand. Maybe each person's is not unique, but how likely is it that the placement of veins on the back of the hands of the Paul who died in 1966 would have the same placement of veins on the back of the hands of the guy who replaced Paul?

Gecko1's avatar

John Lennon's supposed "assassination" on December 8, 1980 is also pretty sketchy. Lennon was pronounced dead on arrival at Roosevelt Hospital at 11.15 pm. He was rushed there in a police car. Why no ambulance? They just threw his body into the back? Pretty unprofessional. Shoulda waited for the paramedics. Unless it was all a hoax - like most other assassinations and celebrity deaths from JFK to Princess Diana.

So, 12.8.1980

1+2+8+1+9+8 = 29. 2+9 = 11

12+8+1+9+8 = 38. 3+8 = 11

Lennon was, of course, a freemason - like the other Fabs.

11.15 pm

11x{1+5} = 66 😄

Gecko1's avatar

Lennon was allegedly shot with a Charter Arms Special .38 revolver.

3+8 = ....

Killer Mark David Chapman's sentence hearing took place on August 24, 1981.

8+2+4+1+9+8+1 = 33

He was sentenced to life imprisonment for second-degree murder and is currently held at Green Haven Correctional Facility in New York. So they say.

Avalanche's avatar

"He was rushed there in a police car. Why no ambulance? "

Never been TO NYFC, eh? One of the HUGE ongoing problems in NY (even back then!) is traffic is horrendous! (Ex-medical affairs director for an ambulance, crew chief and driver -- not IN NYFC... but in NY state.) If the COPS are there or got there quickly, they usually have VERY minimal emergency medical response training; however WAITING for an ambulance pretty much guarantees the guy will die! (If the wound is serious enough.)

"Pack-and-run" is sometimes (though not often) the BEST (and/or only!) medical advice, even for high-end ambulance crews. For instance -- a spleen injury or a femoral 'clip' (either of which bleeds like HELL, and will kill you within not-so-many minutes!) -- REQUIRES pack-and-run, and it's the person's ONLY hope! The injured needs to be *opened up surgically* and the internal bleeding STOPPED, while buckets of replacement blood are pushed in. That's why "no ambulance"!

(And nearly ALL ambulances will NOT fit up onto the sidewalk, to try to get PAST car jams! Plus it's considered verrah bad manners to drive over/rip down a restaurant's awning or street-side tables full of diners!)

yantra's avatar

wait a minute - are you joking about the lennon-freemason thing?

CK_'s avatar

Another theory is "Paul" was actually identical twins. Same goes for Elvis:

https://www.mileswmathis.com/paul8.pdf

https://mileswmathis.com/elvis.pdf

Gecko1's avatar

Paul's supposed brother Mike McCartney doesn't look anything like Paul. What's the bet this entire family was simply an artificial Tavistock-MI5 creation? Even the other Beatles almost look completely different by 1970 to their 1960 selves. Facial hair is a good way to hide features. Was going hippie the only reason the lads from Liverpool grew mos and beards? Were any of the other Fabs switched besides Paul? The Fab Four. Fab for fabulous? Or Fab for fabricated?

One thing is certain: The Beatles were one of the most successful psyops of all time.

Gecko1's avatar

Mike Williams, Sage of Quay, is the professor emiritus of PID research:-

https://youtu.be/235zPNZ1sgI?si=BHqlPGVQ7UVX8L3X

Brigadoon's avatar

👍🏻100% Mike Williams is a top notch OG researcher on Paul is Dead phenom -and the entire social engineering/ Tavistock/ occult overlay

Mark Tokarski's avatar

I've been on top of this psyop (psychological operation) since 2016 or so. There was no car accident (911? ... C'mon folks!), no death or replacement. As Davy Jones of the Monkees informed us, his group was not the first assembled rock band. The Beatles were. As with the Monkees, they had tryouts, and some intense training in Hamburg. They were not terribly good musicians, but trained hard and learned to sing well together. Others, George Martin at the center, recruited song writers while studio musicians did the instrumental work. They quit performing in public and suddenly got very good at song writing and playing instruments? Think about it. Think hard about it.

Check it out for yourself. I call the McCartney twins Paul and Mike. Paul sang Yesterday on Sullivan, and Till There Was You before British royalty. He is a head-bobbing crooner, and Mike gradually took over the role of "Paul" full time, as he is more dynamic, and a good stage performer. He's not a good song writer. People behind the scenes do that for him. They made a movie, Give My Regards to Broad Street, which is musically worth your time. Note that in the movie if the singer is sitting, it is Paul, if standing, it is Mike. Their vocal ranges are different, with Paul able to do For No One very nicely, but it took Mike to do the real rock and roll, Why Don't We Do It in the Road, Birthday, etc. I have written lots about this subject, about the fake death, the John Lennon hoax, Stu Sutcliffe, Mike Williams (The Sage of Quay). As psyops go, it's a fun, but no one died. It was just misdirection, to prevent us from spotting two Paul's from day one. https://pieceofmindful.com/2022/05/03/sir-faul-2/

Anyway, there were at least five, possibly six Beatles. "Paul" was a set of identical twins who are easily distinguished on close examination, one left handed, one right, one with a natural hair part on the right, the other left, one having an impacted tooth upper left, and one taller. Paul's eyebrows wrap around and down, Mike's do not (early mop top hair hid this fact). I discovered this when I examined childhood photos. They might still be there. Look up Paul McCartney childhood photos. See for yourself. "Mike McGear" was recruited to step into Mike Mccartney's shoes, but he looks nothing like a McCartney. He's a lifetime actor. We don't know their real names.

Lennon (real name unknown) was possibly a set of twins too, as childhood photos seem to indicate two with lots of monkey business. (His mother was not Julia, she was not hit by a car, Alfred Lennon was a hired actor). Lennon, whatever his name, appears to have had a happy settled childhood with a nice mother and father.

Ron.C's avatar

Or to put it another way, Don't believe your lying eyes!

misty's avatar

I am very intrigued! I stopped partway thru the post to do a little digging. Ai's answer when I asked why The Beatles stopped touring is laughable.

"The Beatles stopped touring in 1966 due to a combination of factors that made live performances increasingly unbearable and unproductive. A primary reason was their inability to hear themselves play on stage, as the sound systems of the time were inadequate for large venues, and the overwhelming noise from screaming fans drowned out their music.

Ringo Starr recalled that the volume of screams made it impossible to hear the band, leading to a deterioration in their performance quality."

Now I need to finish reading... 😉

glenn's avatar

Indeed, the “noise factor” for not performing is nonsense. Anyone who’s spent quality time around musicians learns they live to perform for audiences and want people to hear their music live. It’s part of who they are, and they feed off the live energy. The few reclusive singer song writers and bands are a minor exception.

Avalanche's avatar

It's NOT nonsense because the JOY of playing for people WHO.CAN.HEAR.YOU. is gone. There's no 'dance' between the audience and musicians; only screaming-Screaming-SCREAMING -- and the struggle to play WELL when you're deafened by it!

I'm reminded of a discussion on a Stevie Ray Vaughan fan forum. Young fellow (15-16?) was REALLY upset, cause he'd been at a live concert in a small venue. (I only found Stevie after he'd died; never got to see him. {sob}) Kid got the chance to talk with Stevie afterward, and Stevie offered him some drugs. He was REALLY (and still, years later) offended 'cause he was a KID and so Stevie was BAD to have offered DRUGS! I pointed out that, to the contrary, Stevie was offering the kid something of great value TO Stevie! ('Oh. he'd never thought of it that way.')

This nice kid (now in his 30s I guess), wrote some time later that he was watching Stevie at (what was the show? Live from Austin? Austin City Limits? Some AMAZING recorded-live show (on PBS) and he was really annoyed because Stevie was obviously SO drunk or high (as he often was on stage) and his bass player was watching him like a HAWK -- as if he were afraid Stevie was about to pass out and ruin the concert.

I'd seen that close watch (reveled in it!), but pointed out to the no-longer-a-kid that he had it wrong. His bass player was watching him like a hawk cause Stevie OFTEN went soaring -- he was not singing and playing by rote, he was reveling in the music making and going wherever his music took him! (Ye CATS! I miss Stevie!!)

And the bassist HAD to be ready to to 'catch' -- or get ahead of -- Stevie when he went flying! I said: think them as aerialists: the 'catcher' who is just hanging upside-down by his knees, swinging back and forth in synchrony with his partner; and he must be instantly READY to catch the high-flyer no matter what maneuvers -- what playing -- the flyer goes into. Sent the not-a-kid BACK to watch again, seeing that the bassist (no, I can't remember his name! He was BRILLIANT too!) was watching Stevie so closely so he would always be ready to 'catch' Stevie when he took off flying! (Kid felt better about it THEN too!)

Avalanche's avatar

On the third hand, MANY decades ago, my mom-the-opera-singer was invited to sing the Star Spangled Bannaner (as we called it) AT Shea Stadium for their celebration of Long Island Day... They NEEDED a pro singer (from LI) because with the stadium size and the looooong delays between singing a note -- and that note coming BACK AT YOU very loud from every direction, you had to have essentially a death grip on WHERE you were in the song! (She had a GREAT time, and I was up in Albany 3-4 hours away watching her ON TV! This was, like, 1980?)

I had sympathy for the Beatles, because the JOY of playing together in public is entirely wiped out by having to fight to try to stay in time with each other!! Not that the AUDIENCE could hear the diff... but the FUN of a live concert is the joy of free-wheeling playing together! So whether or not "Paul is dead" -- it's no fun "making music" to a deaf audience!

yantra's avatar

all i can say is wow. is everything faked? i remember how creepy the sgt pepper's album cover was. and in general i think that is when their music really CHANGED dramatically - the focus on death “He blew his mind out in a car / He didn’t notice that the lights had changed” . . . and lyrics, modes, tonality became bizarre from a western point of view - we considered it to be the eastern (Indian) influence at the time, but that wasn't all it was . . . The physical non-resemblance is totally obvious. i wondered why they never played on stage together again - and the fighting began, and split-ups, perhaps because it was so hard to swallow the death, the fake replacement AND the big lie . . . and the suing - remember George's "you sue me and i'll sue you, swing your partners, all get screwed".

Christine Alia's avatar

The psyop is even more deceptive. The reason Paul was killed. Not an accident. The book Plastic Macca by Tine Foster is very compelling.

Simonde's avatar

The evidence strongly suggests Bill replaced Paul. It's also curious to note that almost all popular musical actors who hit the big time come from royal or elite families, they never come from 'common' families. Mark Devlin does an excellent presentation of these facts in his book titled 'No-one's Dad's a Plumber'.

CelticJedi's avatar

I noted in an alleged interview with Sun, Ringo admitted the fraud. I am also suspicious as to why Paul died. He was opposed to getting on the hallucinogenic drugs promotion band wagon and resented lining the Crown's pockets via taxes on the band. Fear on the part of the band members as well as surrounding family, such as Paul's wife, would certainly be more easily understood with murder in the cards.