I agree, that Omnicron is different enough that it should be called another name. Almost everyone I know Has Omnicron, which is basically a cold. I had Delta in September and caught Onmi over Christmas, as did our whole family that stayed in the mountain cabin together. No one in our family is vaccinated and we all have had COVID. No big deal. In fact everyone is so over all this political BS that no one is locking down, staying home or isolating. Sign of the times, like it or not, but it’s time to put this all behind us, get herd immunity, vaccinated or not, stay healthy and live life.
Going back to the flu, and flu season, and flu and cold season, and the fact that most coronaviruses are merely colds,
I was always skeptical that you could get covid once and be done forever. For a long time, sure, maybe. But 20 years?
I like Eugyppius' retrieval of an explanation suggesting that different birth cohorts get different influenzas depending on which one is circulating as that cohort comes of age and is exposed. Then each individual in that cohort has long-lasting immunity to re-infection by his "first" influenza virus, but not necessarily to other influenza viruses... And yet successive cohorts form layers, achieving herd immunity that protects any one individual in any one cohort from annual challenge to all the other influenza viruses.
But are we really ever once-and-done with our first influenza? Can we "collect them all"? That said, I haven't had the flu in 40 years.
So the same with colds, or coronaviruses.
I assert the entire edifice of covid shots and boosters was built explicitly upon the existing edifice of annual flu shots and boosters for everyone over 65 in the United States. They form a huge cohort that has been well-trained for twenty years to roll over on command and get shot and get boosted every year. Why not twice a year? Three times? More boosters = more protection = delay death. And it was all too easy to sweep younger folks into this scam by telling them they were going to kill granny if they didn't also get shot and get boosted.
There is another possibility which I am going to be so bold as to say are "the facts of the matter."
Covid is 100% bullshit.
Delta is complete bat shit nonsense.
Omicron is complete horse shit.
All variants of the same Pharma fabricated shit story.
What we are dealing with here (BTW SARS 1 was a complete fiction also) are invented pathogens but not invented in any lab but from boardrooms of psychotic billionaires and foisted onto the public by reliable crooks like Christian Drosten and Co.
These elusive virii are "confirmed" to be existential threats through bogus PCR "tests" (PCR is NOT a test) and the illusion of genomic sequencing.
Then the bought off mass media dutifully do their jobs by catapulting the fear into the scientifically illiterate and incurious masses and voila.
Covid-19 is not an epidemiological story it is the grandest Ponzi scheme in history making the "War on Terror" look like nickel and dime stuff.
This is where Malone and McCullough can't see the forest for the trees.
But hey let's say SARSCoV-2 was a bio-weapon- it was the shittiest one ever as it could only take out obese and fragile 80 year olds with 4 co-morbidities and even then with lots of help from the ever corrupt death machine known as the medical cartel.
This is unbekomingly insightful: "So, here is my thesis: If Peter is right, and Omi is evading our natural immunity, then it is NOT a “highly mutated form” of the virus, but a different virus altogether. There, I said it."
I agree! Why? Because omi does NOT have that kick-nose (S)PIKE GENE. It this S gene that is the killer in the virus and vaccs - among other stuff. it is the difference between C19 and fluey. Even the NSW Australia Health Minister, to my surprise, parrot the phrase "S-gene dropout", meaning it does not have the S-gene.
omicold is a lab-made cold!
The question is: why did the Chinese release it? What stops them from releasing more?
It will mean you better learn to speak and read Mandarin; and enjoy "congee" - which I like. Those Maoris will tuck their forelocks and spears at their new masters.
where did anyone get the idea that we would have persistent complete immunity to corona virus? There just is NO evidence to suggest that. Partial protection, sure. Protection against severe disease for a time; likely. But to say we those who had been infected would not get infected again is just silly
Unbekoming, JJ Couey and friends see lots of evidence that Omi was passaged through mice very recently and so yes, it is a lab release. Yes, we were one-and-done... if there were 1. no further lab releases of a highly mutated virus, and 2. no out-of-lab acceleration of mutations of a virus by mass vaccination into the middle of a pandemic. So no, we are not one-and-done.
I agree, that Omnicron is different enough that it should be called another name. Almost everyone I know Has Omnicron, which is basically a cold. I had Delta in September and caught Onmi over Christmas, as did our whole family that stayed in the mountain cabin together. No one in our family is vaccinated and we all have had COVID. No big deal. In fact everyone is so over all this political BS that no one is locking down, staying home or isolating. Sign of the times, like it or not, but it’s time to put this all behind us, get herd immunity, vaccinated or not, stay healthy and live life.
Going back to the flu, and flu season, and flu and cold season, and the fact that most coronaviruses are merely colds,
I was always skeptical that you could get covid once and be done forever. For a long time, sure, maybe. But 20 years?
I like Eugyppius' retrieval of an explanation suggesting that different birth cohorts get different influenzas depending on which one is circulating as that cohort comes of age and is exposed. Then each individual in that cohort has long-lasting immunity to re-infection by his "first" influenza virus, but not necessarily to other influenza viruses... And yet successive cohorts form layers, achieving herd immunity that protects any one individual in any one cohort from annual challenge to all the other influenza viruses.
But are we really ever once-and-done with our first influenza? Can we "collect them all"? That said, I haven't had the flu in 40 years.
So the same with colds, or coronaviruses.
I assert the entire edifice of covid shots and boosters was built explicitly upon the existing edifice of annual flu shots and boosters for everyone over 65 in the United States. They form a huge cohort that has been well-trained for twenty years to roll over on command and get shot and get boosted every year. Why not twice a year? Three times? More boosters = more protection = delay death. And it was all too easy to sweep younger folks into this scam by telling them they were going to kill granny if they didn't also get shot and get boosted.
There is another possibility which I am going to be so bold as to say are "the facts of the matter."
Covid is 100% bullshit.
Delta is complete bat shit nonsense.
Omicron is complete horse shit.
All variants of the same Pharma fabricated shit story.
What we are dealing with here (BTW SARS 1 was a complete fiction also) are invented pathogens but not invented in any lab but from boardrooms of psychotic billionaires and foisted onto the public by reliable crooks like Christian Drosten and Co.
These elusive virii are "confirmed" to be existential threats through bogus PCR "tests" (PCR is NOT a test) and the illusion of genomic sequencing.
Then the bought off mass media dutifully do their jobs by catapulting the fear into the scientifically illiterate and incurious masses and voila.
Covid-19 is not an epidemiological story it is the grandest Ponzi scheme in history making the "War on Terror" look like nickel and dime stuff.
This is where Malone and McCullough can't see the forest for the trees.
But hey let's say SARSCoV-2 was a bio-weapon- it was the shittiest one ever as it could only take out obese and fragile 80 year olds with 4 co-morbidities and even then with lots of help from the ever corrupt death machine known as the medical cartel.
It's all lies from top to bottom.
Totally right on!
Read this by Ethical Skeptic https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/11/15/chinas-ccp-concealed-sars-cov-2-presence-in-china-as-far-back-as-march-2018/
He lays out the timeline for Omi as being pre 2018/2029 outbreak.
ES does make that case, and it is useful to consider.
Excellent! Well-read.
This is unbekomingly insightful: "So, here is my thesis: If Peter is right, and Omi is evading our natural immunity, then it is NOT a “highly mutated form” of the virus, but a different virus altogether. There, I said it."
I agree! Why? Because omi does NOT have that kick-nose (S)PIKE GENE. It this S gene that is the killer in the virus and vaccs - among other stuff. it is the difference between C19 and fluey. Even the NSW Australia Health Minister, to my surprise, parrot the phrase "S-gene dropout", meaning it does not have the S-gene.
omicold is a lab-made cold!
The question is: why did the Chinese release it? What stops them from releasing more?
It will mean you better learn to speak and read Mandarin; and enjoy "congee" - which I like. Those Maoris will tuck their forelocks and spears at their new masters.
We are talking about the here and now! There was no them covid back then.
where did anyone get the idea that we would have persistent complete immunity to corona virus? There just is NO evidence to suggest that. Partial protection, sure. Protection against severe disease for a time; likely. But to say we those who had been infected would not get infected again is just silly
I will say, there is a high degree of confounding here created by vaccinating AFter natural infection.
Rich, don't be too hard on these precious few - we want a wide spectrum of voices. And we want his buds to migrate here.
How much have you actually read?
if it about covid i can assure you i have read more than 99% of scienteists
Do you know that I am a billionaire?
very gooood and very droll!
read about what?
Exactly! You proved my point!
Unbekoming, JJ Couey and friends see lots of evidence that Omi was passaged through mice very recently and so yes, it is a lab release. Yes, we were one-and-done... if there were 1. no further lab releases of a highly mutated virus, and 2. no out-of-lab acceleration of mutations of a virus by mass vaccination into the middle of a pandemic. So no, we are not one-and-done.
OMI released by the usual suspects? Probably. Then... Why?