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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I scrolled right down to the 6 year old. What an excellent explanation. I know of a few fake diseases, because one doctor years ago, who treated my then-mother-in-law, told me that osteoporosis does not exist. He said it was caused by taking meds that make the bones brittle, like my MiL did. I also know about the vitD scam, thanks to people like you. I read all articles I could find on vitamins and found, that what you buy in bottles is not what the vitamin is for real. And that they don't work unless the vitamin is surrounded by the food it sits in. And that lots of meds make the illness' worse. The very few times I go to the doc, I try to be well-informed, so the doc can not talk me under the table. Good advise to everyone. Make sure you know what the doc prescribed you before ingesting it.

Joanna Martin's avatar

They say one can prevent osteoporosis with weight training. From experience, I can vouch for the Truth of what they say.

The Color Of Air's avatar

Yes...resistance training is 1,000% better than any drug. There are studies where even people in their 90's can improve their strength and bones using resistance training.

Joanna Martin's avatar

I don't go to a gym - but do heavy manual labor in my garden. And work up a heavy sweat with all the digging, hauling and building.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

100 years ago no one went to a gym, everyone worked in the yard, the house (remembering mom doing laundry by hand) and no one watched TV and very few went to the doctor every other month or so... no one had mammograms, colonscopies, no one took 20 meds a day. May be they did not live that long, although I notice in the obits how many 80, 90, 100 year olds there are, and they were healthy. Some had no meat, others ate meat once or twice a week, no one complained and certainly no one went out to eat 3 times a day.

yantra's avatar

true - but doing nothing is better than any drug - except maybe antibiotics for serious infection.

B Bulluck's avatar

I drive my current doc crazy! He has to put in his computer "Offered covid vaccine but patient says she will give it a think". I get a good laugh, because I'm not going to consider his offer!

"SOMEONE" is monitoring his offers and my refusals somewhere!

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Years ago at the former doc's office, the nurse asked if I wanted a mammogram, a colonoscopy....and when I said no she answered, well we have to ask but I work here and I don't do any of it. So that was that - an honest nurse. The doc retired a few years ago, and I changed docs offices.

BreakFree's avatar

About 25 years ago, when I still did their silly tests, I went for a mammogram. They did numerous x-rays (used the dense breast excuse) . A week later I received two letters, on the same day, from the same doctor. One said, "Everything looks good, come back in a year". The other said, "Something doesn't look quite right, please come back in six months". I called to see which was correct. Of course, they told me to come back in six months. I never went back and have never had another mammogram since. I avoid all tests these days. That's how they pull us into their sickness system. I still believe in doctors but for trauma care only.

yantra's avatar

and if only the tests were just silly, and not also dangerous, like let's radiate your breasts with xrays for decades to promote, whoops i mean prevent cancer.

Sandra Elam's avatar

Yes, trauma care only for me too now. I stopped mammograms more than 12 years ago - they were so painful I am sure that they were damaging tissue.

yantra's avatar

better yet avoid anything they prescribe.

Sandra Elam's avatar

When my son was about 5 and had a milk allergy, I gave him "Vitamin D" capsules instead. He tripped and broke his arm. The doc said his bone healed much slower than it should. I now think the "Vitamin D" made his bones brittle and slowed the healing.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

chemical vitD is rat poison. I found out recently, and also that the tests for vitD only register the chemical one, not the natural. I suppose it is impossible to measure the exact vitD in someone's body? I also refused the blood pressure meds, 50 years ago the pressure I have was considered normal for my age, now I am way up there. If they keep lowering the numbers everyone will have high blood pressure etc. These are man-made lists of numbers, not real measurements on our body. We are all unique, what does a doctor know about MY body?

Sandra Elam's avatar

Yes, I agree. Did you know that potassium, an essential mineral and electrolyte, lowers blood pressure safely? I order the NOW brand of potassium citrate from Iherb.com. I take about 400 mg in the morning and 400 mg in the evening if I need it. Potassium not only lowers blood pressure, but it reduces foot swelling, and stops my headaches and heart racing. Look up Dr. Berg's potassium videos on potassium on YouTube for more info.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Unfortunately I cannot take potassium. There is also no need to lower my blood pressure, it has been higher than the norm for 40+ years and it is not out of the 'old' norms which my 2 retired nurse friends told me, is perfectly fine for my age. I take as little as possible, both meds (none) and supplements (two right now but next week just 1). Because the supplement industry is now just as bad as the pharma. They advise you to take 20 or so and do not look whether all these supplements are compatible. And of course, your doctor does not know.

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yantra's avatar

pfmonkey - of course they would diagnose you, if your bones weren't as dense as a healthy 29 yr old's - what a joke. but now that we know they are judged (and reportedly compensated) based on the number of prescriptions they write . . .

btw was that a recent memo to dentists or are you referring to several yrs back when the fosamax (bisphosphonate)-induced jawbone necrosis got exposed?

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yantra's avatar

also, you are right about the warnings in tiny print inside the box. well, if you're brave enough to read them, you will realize (real lies?) they are ALL poison.

yantra's avatar

totally. in fact the beta blockers like metroprolol, bisoprolol (and anything else ending in "olol" if you can believe it LOL) can be pretty debilitating since they basically block the adrenergic response - which response is essential to "activate the sympathetic nervous system to increase heart rate, mobilize energy, and redirect blood flow to muscles during stress or exercise."

so when taking beta blockers many if not most people feel wasted, low energy, depressed and in extreme cases, cold all the time. i know because they put my husband on them for YEARS and kept upping the dosage. when he finally checked internet drug sites, he found the dosage of bisoprolol they had him on was four times greater than what most people were saying made them feel terrible. so he cut his dose by 3/4 - and of course his docs didn't like it, but he had substantially more energy and wasn't constantly chilled.

Joanna Martin's avatar

I strongly suspect that if Americans stopped buying & eating processed foods, etc.; and switched to organic whole foods AND engaged in manual labor, that they'd be fit and healthy. Eating organic healthy whole foods is cheap and easy IF you live in an area where you have a sunny yard. I forage wild greens which grow here (purslane, lambs quarters, dandelion leaves, broad leafed plantain, and violet leaves). From my garden I get arugula, and sweet potato leaves plus the tomatoes, peppers, squash, okra, etc. . Cheap, organic, and delicious. For your health & wallet, learn to forage and grow a garden.

Read the label on any processed or manufactured food: Yikes! that stuff will kill you. No wonder Americans are obese and chronically ill.

Bradley Lewis's avatar

They need to stop taking the injections labeled as 'disease prevention' and then everyone will get much healthier, along with your recommendation.

Dre's avatar
Aug 12Edited

Keep your children away from teachers, they are dangerous in many ways.

Doctors are mindless robots that just know drugs.

Sad state we are in.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Do I have it right? Let us create synthetic chemicals call prescription drugs that treat the symptoms of disease states. In turn, if we push out enough of these chemicals that interfere with normal biological processes we have poly pharmacy and then the side effects will be expressed in numerous ways. Then we can label each unique side effect as a disease and find a drug to treat the side effect. What a fantastic business model. I am all in because I will benefit from the medical con. Not the uniformed patient. PS: SIDS is a Prime Example in the vaccine world where they have no treatment because the vaccine killed the baby. PPS: I see so many seniors believing that the drugs will help them and not life style changes.

Atlandea's avatar

my brother died by viagra. he was in his fifties, somewhat overweight, on high blood pressure medication. both the viagra and blood pressure medication were prescribed by the same physician and filled by the same pharmacist since he lived in a small town. he took his viagra, did not 'use' it, went to bed and failed to wake up. his blood pressure went too low. f#*ck pfizer

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Most old men die from over medicated on BP medication. Drug marketing trumps good medicine day in day out!

Atlandea's avatar

my husband died by pfizer as well. the covid shots ruined his immune system. when we went to phoenix for his double lung transplant the teaching hospital prescribed every kind of non-sensical drug with no thought as to how it would affect his kidneys. At one time he was on 2 blood pressure medications - one to lower, one to raise. I suggested he stop both and he felt way better. temporarily. til the next complication. when I pressed the transplant team on why he was dying the one person who was honest said it was iatrogenic. f#*ck pfizer

Robert Townshend's avatar

Now that I'm required to visit a medical centre annually (for drivers' licence over age 75) the only apt description I can find for what I experience there is...new and used car lot.

The Color Of Air's avatar

..."The name for this plan is disease mongering."...I refuse to be mongered by any disease. Pig Pharma, the doctors and the medical mafia can go to hell with their marketing foolishness and deadly drugs and vaccines. I have built "The Wall" to keep these fumbling murderers out of my life.

yantra's avatar

pig pharma, lol. i actually thought of pig pharma this morn, but now realize i subliminally saw your post when scanning thru this last nite. ( : and yes, we all need that wall - especially those who don't yet know they need it . . .

Bob Bichen's avatar

Frank Zappa predicted it in his immortal 1974 composition "Stink Foot:"

"Out through the night and the whispering breezes to the place where they keep the imaginary diseases."

yantra's avatar

interesting - i missed that since i was kind of repelled by zappa. but it sounds like more "predictive programming" . . . and frank reportedly grew up at the Edgewood Arsenal, "having lived the first seven years of his life in military housing on the grounds of the facility". . . gee, mkultra, anyone?

Barbara Charis's avatar

UNBEKOMING, your information is the absolute truth. Industries are all about their Bottom Line and have no interest in solving problems, which limit customers. The medical Industry is not an exception.

yantra's avatar

thank you for articles like this to (hopefully) wake us all up to the ultimate horrific scam! for the majority of the trusting (brainwashed) public, it is pretty hard to believe what is actually going on in the pharma-medical business.

the line you mention in the 2003 report for pharma execs 'Healthcare: The Lifestyle Drugs Outlook to 2008'. “The coming years will bear greater witness to the corporate sponsored creation of disease.” is even shocking to me. i mean, even the concept of a "lifestyle drug" - let alone admitting to "corporate sponsored creation of disease!!!

Manfred Johann Schmuckerschlag's avatar

Let me add:

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Disease Mongering

https://collections.plos.org/collection/disease-mongering/

Published May 24, 2018 - Curated Collections

„To mark the first academic meeting on disease mongering (the "selling of sickness" in order to promote drug sales), which was held in Newcastle, Australia in April 2006, and to help provoke and inform a response to the phenomenon, PLOS Medicine commissioned a special theme issue.“

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"The Selling of Sickness" ...

Humdeedee's avatar

Sickness is a commodity in this country and most of the west if not all.

Baldmichael's avatar

Thank you. Of all industries the pharmaceutical must be the worst. At least with armaments we understand what they do. I see 'Disease Mongering' anagrams to:

- ie greasing demons

- genre misdiagnose

- I do German genesis

I keep saying that pharma is a German thing along with Germ theory!

Sixth Sense Consulting's avatar

Forgive me if I missed this part, but I didn't see a key step described. Disease mongering of 'infectious' or 'contagious' diseases is exactly as you say, but the frequency in the past decades has another facet. Zika, Ebola, Covid, etc. make it seem like there is a schedule by which a new scary disease must be trotted out almost every year. Most of them come to nothing.

When you have the machinery to ramp up fear of a disease, the public/market wants a solution. Whoever has a solution will make a TON of money whether the disease manifests or not. The companies that manufactured the covid shots made more money than you can imagine, but much of it was made before the shots rolled out.

In my opinion, although stocks aren't a lock in for wealth, if you knew enough about which company was working on a solution to which 'disease' before the fear mongering began, and you knew the disease would get promoted, you could make a LOT of money buying stocks in the right company...