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Rebecca Lee (maybeitsmercury)'s avatar

Gee, that sounds like what is happening to our children!

CD's avatar

It should. The powers that won't be for much longer consider the common folk chattel. 🐂🐄

Christine Tindall's avatar

Stopping vaccines is easy, but what about providing the proper diet for your pet. Are their sources for whole foid diets in order to provide the proper nutrition needed?

Truthseeker's avatar

We have always made our own food for our pets. Dogs are scavengers by nature, so they eat what we eat. We alternate beef, fish and chicken, with vegetables and light on grains such as rice or oats. They love a variety of raw veggies, and it's good for their teeth! We give them cod liver oil every couple of days, and a small amount of honey occasionally.

They get some fresh, raw milk once every day or two.

All the animals we have had were, and are, extremely healthy and live to healthy old age. We have eliminated most of the chemicals from our food and produce, by eating unprocessed fresh food. No bottled, canned, or packaged food. Just fresh food, and cooked only as much as needed.

Your pets will reflect your diet and lifestyle. If you eat crap and take a lot of meds because of it,...they will also follow suit.

rtko's avatar

Brilliant! If I’m a dog or cat in my next life will you be my owner?

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I will sign up for that, too!

CD's avatar

Lol. This reminded me of a lady at my local farmers market who asked if I would adopt her when she saw the high quality grass fed and finished meat and veggies I was buying for our dogs. 😆

Christine Tindall's avatar

My dog wouldn't be a problem, it's my cat who is incredibly picky.

Barbara Charis's avatar

Sounds good, except people don't think about this....the composition of cow's milk is to increase a baby calf 500 pounds in its first 9 months of life...Cow's milk waa not designed for smaller animals. Every species has is own special milk. Human breast milk is designed to increase a human infant 14 pounds the first year of life. How big is a cat or a dog intended to grow in its first months? iMy daughter's cat lived 17 years...and her chihuahua 18 years. She tried to feed them right and keep them out of the vet's office. Unfortunately, the cat and dog were rescue animals and had been vaccinated. She did not give them more vaccines.. She lost previous animals she loved, because she wasn't into nutrition..and her previous dachshund had a back problem . She spent her last $10,000 for an operation to save him...and he wound up in a wheelchair for another five years. Her animals are her children!

Truthseeker's avatar

Baloney. When I was growing up, we always gave our barn cats cows milk, while milking the cows, and the farm dogs always got some, too. They were strong and healthy! We gave the chickens clabbered milk from the extra milk that started to sour. They had strong feathers, and especially during molting. All the farm animals loved the clabbered milk! Ask any old time farmer about that. Humans also benefit from the calcium and enzymes in fresh, raw milk! We made cheese, kefir, yogurt and cream cheese from it also. Do you happen to eat any of those?

Don't believe everything you see floating around the internet.

Anyone who thinks any animals are "children" has a serious perception problem with biological differences between animals and humans.

CD's avatar

😁 at that last sentence. Lol.

Lisa's avatar

Yes, commercial raw food diets are widely available now. That is their ancestral diet. I have personally fed my animals this way for the last 25 years and I have only good things to say about feeding this way. There are many books and webs sites dedicated to the topic. If you have the time you can do it yourself as long as you are well informed to make the diet nutritionally balanced. I also haven’t vaccinated for at least 15 years and minimally vaccinated before that. My animals live on average 16-20 years and none have contracted a contagious disease since I stopped vaccinating and where I live there is a lot of parvo and distemper.

Fager 132's avatar

https://catinfo.org/making-cat-food/

This is the website that got me started on feeding fresh raw food to my cats. It's got a lot of interesting information but her home-made raw stuff is just over my head, which is why I buy commercially-available fresh raw meat for my cats. Seriously: I'm not standing at the counter grinding meat and measuring additives all the time.

Christine Tindall's avatar

Thank you do much for the great information!

Fager 132's avatar

I've used/use three sources for raw foods and there are others out there. We started with Smalls.com, which describes its food as "lightly cooked." It comes in several varieties (pork, chicken, fish/chicken are the ones I remember) and is shipped frozen in I think 6 oz serving sizes (for cats). It's complete nutrition so you don't have to blend supplement powders into it. My Siamese ate it happily for a year and then overnight decided they didn't like it any more, so I switched to actual raw meat from VivaRaw.

Viva has dog and cat versions of fresh raw meat for cats. It's complete food and doesn't require supplementing it, although they also sell all the same meats without supplements that you add your own to. Some people like to use alternative calcium sources like powdered eggshell or add supplement powders that are formulated especially for raw diets. I think it's too much like cooking so I like the versions that come with the nutrients added in. Viva ships their foods frozen in 2-lb increments. For cats they have chicken, turkey, duck, rabbit, pork, and beef, and sometimes venison. I also buy from WholeFoods4Pets, which has venison available all the time, plus lamb. WF4P is just the meat, so you have to add a supplement powder to it, but my cats *love* the lamb and venison with the supplement added. I use EZ Complete premix powder and add it to the boneless raw meat from WF4P.

Feeding whole, fresh, raw food is a little more work even when it's prepackaged the way Viva ships it. You have to thaw it enough to cut it, then cut it into portion sizes, then freeze again until you're ready to nuke a portion for each meal. It's not a big deal, just a little more work than popping a can open and dumping it on the plate. When you warm it you have to be careful not to let it cook, which kills the nutrients. Just enough to thaw it and get it up to "mouse body temperature," as they say.

Both Smalls and VivaRaw have great customer service. The Viva website it a little obnoxious and hard to get things done on. I haven't had to contact WF4P yet; their website is basic but effective. On balance I'm really glad I made the switch to fresh raw and wish I'd done it years ago. The Siamese who forced me into raw food had horrible GI issues when she arrived as a kitten, but after three months on Smalls all her GI issues went away and she's been fine ever since; she's two now.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I cook home cooked food. I do not give commercial raw food because this year alone there have been 3 recalls already. Our vet only requires the rabies, which is mandatory in GA, but gives a 3 year and will also test and give exemptions.

This is my first dog and of course, I had no idea what needlecrazy vets are hereabouts. Now we drive 45 miles to this one, allopathic and not very well informed on natural ways, but open to it. My dog has a chicken allergy and early spring got real sick - I was at the time giving diet food that says Lamb and rice, but is mostly... chicken! We got her almost back to health. The remainder of the rash, now only on face and paws, is slowly diminishing - thanks to the articles of Unbekoming and the many tips from commenters! Thank you all.

CD's avatar

You can order many pet quackccines online and "self-administer".

Christine Tindall's avatar

Really! Can you send a link for that?

CD's avatar

Sure. Here's but one of many that pop up if you search "self-administer pet vaccines".

https://vaccinateyourpets.com/

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I know someone who injects his own dogs, but he used to be a dog breeder. The problem is if we do this, we have no paperwork to show and we are not listed in the vet's documents. So still no vet would touch them if we do this. They did not even cut her nails without the jab 3 years ago, so no shot no nail cut (and that is the only thing she won't let me do!). There even was a fuss about the heartworm meds, because I had ordered them for years online as they told me themselves, they wanted to test her first. LUckily I had the started package with me and also the invoices!

Logos's avatar

Royal Canin or Science Diet are great alternatives. Both are made with the needs of the pets. RC has specific breed diets designed for that type. My pets have lived long. Also agree that vaccines bring on most of the health issues, especially renal with cats.

E M's avatar

I started feeding our pets a species-appropriate raw diet to our pets 20 years ago.... and learned VERY quickly to not let the vets know I was. They don't smell, there's less waste, and they itch less.

pobrecollie's avatar

Do you know of a good guide for raw feeding?

I am kind of confused as to what is good and what isn't. I hear that chicken bones splinter, but is that only if it's cooked?

I give him kibble just now, but it's supposed to be a good quality one.

Christine Tindall's avatar

What information do you refer to to get the raw diet with all nutrition your pet needs. My cat us feral, but unbelievably picky

Jody Eddings's avatar

I recently discovered my cat really likes liverwurst. I do dice it small. And she also likes bacon bits, when I make bacon, she comes to the kitchen when she smells it. I still give her a kibble and wet cat food. But changing to NuLo kibble recently seems to have stopped her (long) hair mats from forming.

We’ve been changing our dogs to human grade food - chicken (or hamburger), brown rice, and add some chunks of liverwurst, and we use hot dog slices instead of the ‘dog treats’ (Pup-Peroni) we had been using.

We noticed increased energy and playfulness immediately.

We also add some cocoanut oil or fish oil. Need to get some veggies in there. It’s a work in progress, but appears to be very worthwhile.

E M's avatar

I currently use Know Better Pet Food. We fee our cats ground raw turkey mixed with the powder from Know Better. When I started, there were many websites with specific instructions to make your own food...but as I added children to our lives, I went with the powder. Make sure that there's taurine. That is THE most important. I add a sprinkle of diatomaceous earth to prevent parasites. NO vegetables. Cats only need meat.

Some folks just use whole chickens... like... WHOLE... gotta have all the organs, etc. Some folks don't use ground, but chunks of meat.

When you look it up online, ignore the "oh no, raw diet is so bad for pets". It's not.

You might have to try a few different meats for your kitty to figure out what is liked. I keep it birds... since my cats wouldn't bring me a wild boar or buffalo, lol.

Maybe starting by adding some (homemade or no salt) chicken broth to the current food would work... adding the flavor without changing thr food TOO much. Then slowly transition?

Christine Tindall's avatar

Thank you for your information

Lance's avatar

Great article as a retired veterinarian (mixed practice) I endorse what you have written. I would add that the one source of toxicity that is left out is the pesticide/herbicide contribution

I feel sure you have considered it and wonder why it is not included here

Big E's avatar

To your point, you may be interested in…

Children, Dogs and the Chemically Treated Lawn

The Cancer Risk Underfoot

DR. ROBERT W. MALONE

SEP 07, 2026

https://www.malone.news/p/children-dogs-and-the-chemically

Summarize here: https://eolson47.substack.com/i/214565205/pesticides-pets-and-kids

Christine Tindall's avatar

This goes with me overtime I take my dog for a walk. I take note of the people that spray their lawns and those that have no weeds and keep her away from them.

Big E's avatar

Weeds are our friends! Who knew? You knew!

Lance's avatar

Thanks for the reply and the article

I will return the favor with this article

https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/toxic-paradise-6073241

I also think about the polio “epidemic” and the ubiquitous use of the “wonder drug” DDT at the same time the polio cases escalated

Willful blindness goes hand in hand with monetary rewards it seems

Lance

Big E's avatar

Thank you for the article from ET.

Also agree 100% about polio. Jefferey Jaxen did a good polio documentary for The Highwire and Dr. Suzanne Humphries also discussed on The Highwire (other places too).

Jaxen: https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/the-real-history-of-polio/ (part 1, part 2 requires free Highwire plus login)

Humphries: https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/the-polio-paradox-with-dr-suzanne-humphries/

Lance's avatar

Thanks for the links. I read Susanne's book Dissolving Illusions' many years ago. It is what started me on questioning what I was taught and what I thought. Most all of which was wrong!!

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

The vet thinks my dog has a grass allergy and I wonder if some of the neighbors spray their grass. That cannot be good for anyone walking on it.

Lance's avatar

you might want to consider your dogs vaccination history and diet. I other words look for the other potential causes of the allergy . herbicides/pesticides are certainly one

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

She is 11+ years old, and only had jabs as a pup because I did not know what vets here in the US do. The ones we have now do only the mandatory rabies jab (not mRNA) and will test first. We just changed around her food, I home cook almost everything now. It started in early spring with what looked like bites on her tummy. I think part of the problem is the enormous amount of biting and stinging insects. Now and then she comes running out of the yard tail between legs, shaking her head, being bitten or stung. (Just like me, a mosquito magnet) Unfortunately the cream I use does not help for her, but we found some others that do. Jewelweed did a great job)

Lance's avatar

Sounds like you are doing what you can. Home made diets vary with the ingredients. Organ sourced protein is the best. If you know any hunters it is possible to harvest hearts, kidneys, brains, liver as most are discarded (regretfully)

fuzzi's avatar

For years I took my pets for shots, mainly rabies, but other shots annually as recommended. My last two cats were strictly indoors, and I stopped traumatizing them, going to the vet for shots. One lived to 19, the other to 20. The previous two cats also lived indoors, but went for their annual shots. One died at 11 (cancer) and the other at 13 (kidney failure).

I would be interested in diet suggestions for my current indoor cat (5) and my latest dog (2). The dog was adopted through a shelter, and got a lot of shots and a microchip before I could take him home. I would like to minimize harms as much as possible.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

my dog got all the shots as a puppy without me knowing what they were injecting, as I went first for fleas (she was covered in them when I got her at 7 weeks) and then of course, before the sterilization surgery. After that, I first let them give the 1 year rabies and then read about the 3 year. Now we go to vets that do not require more. Of course they still are allopathic and know little about food, one is still the cortisone and antibiotic prescriber, but the others are not, so we will go to those if need be

Meddling Kid's avatar

We got our latest dog about a year ago from a rural rescue. He was already full-grown but still very active, so we estimate around 3-5yo. About 6mo into our care, he developed something called “fly-biting syndrome”. I don’t remember the exact timeline, but in hindsight, I suspect it was shortly after a vet visit where he got one or more vaxes.

We read a lot about the condition, but my wife, with a pharmacist sister and nurse sister and nurse mother, doesn’t see any harm possible from the medical or pharmaceutical industries. I’ve been vax-skeptic since before 2020, and have been anti-vax (of ANY kind) since 2021.

This problem has to be neurological. I suspect it affects the auditory nerve or processing center and causes phantom ringing or buzzing in one or both ears, causing the dog to react as if there is a mosquito near their ear. One thing we read was that certain probiotic strains can have neurologically calming effects, both in dogs and in people. Bifidobacteria Longum. Available in many forms OTC.

We switched to a sort of raw diet, but more of a human-quality diet. Equal parts canned salmon (to avoid chicken as a possible allergen, which I no longer believe it is for him), canned carrots, fresh rice made with butter and coconut oil, and canned pumpkin (which is great for stool consistency if your dog is on any meds or antibiotics that cause diarrhea).

To that, we add one packet of Purina Proplan calming care probiotic in the morning, and one of these calming chews after dinner. We give him an extra calming chew if it’s going to be thundering or stormy or any occasion for fireworks because they really do help. So far, his fly-biting behavior has been drastically reduced.

As an additional effort, I’ve read about some neuro-protective and neuro-generative effects of ivermectin in humans, so after reading about the safety or issues of it with dogs, I’ve started adding occasional micro doses of IVM to his diet as well.

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Mrs. SOB's avatar

As a lontime dog owner who has seen the over vaccination resulting in degraded health of my tiny Yorkies, this is heartbreaking. But not surprising at all. I have not had my last surviving two get so many vaccines as before (when I was oblivious) but my 12-year-old female has CKD and the vets and pet stores have a costly and cruel gauntlet we’re stuck in. It's like living in an escape room! I keep saying, "no more dogs!" Because of the deadly garbage dealt from vets. Makes my big man husband tear up. The thought of no doggies in the house is impossible to carry. The medical PTB really do want everyone and their pets sick to death in exchange for making their own fortunes. Feels so helpless. The whole thing is a joy killer.

Baldmichael's avatar

Many thanks. My wife and I don't have pets but I grew up with cats. Most lived to around 18-20 years I recall. I have no idea about vaccines although they did go to vets occasionally.

I did see a sarcoma on the head of a horse at a Bed & Breakfast in 2022. It looked horrible. It was an ex-race horse and afterthe visit I wondered about vaccines as I gather the sarcoma was persistant.

I also gather that the lady of the establishment had a son who had a vetinary practice and had sold to an American company. The USA has a lot to answer for.

Freeq O’Nature's avatar

In order for my Service Dog to be certified, he must be up-to-date on vaccines. I just wish the rules were different because I can't fight it. It's either vaccinate or certify.

I have never vaccinated any of my previous dogs growing up and they all lived long, healthy lives. I am a human anti-vaxxer myself.

Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

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Going back to the 1970s, veterinary immunologist Dr. Ron Schultz was already showing that immunity to core viruses like parvo, distemper, and adenovirus lasts many years, often for the lifetime of the animal. His research was validated at a landmark international symposium in 1997 and published in major veterinary textbooks.

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Yet 30 years later, most practices are still boosting every 1 to 3 years.

In this new video I walk through the science, the history, and the alternative most families don't know they can ask for: antibody titer testing.

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Heather's avatar

I have been cooking my dogs' food for at least 18 months and I see better energy and better breath. But hasn't stopped the itching. They are a mid size (39-45 lbs) border Collie and border-lab mix. I wish the boarding services didn't require the vaccines especially the annual ones. I'm hoping adding a small cortisol supplement will help stop the itching! For a couple of years I used in an home pet sitter but she's nearing the end of her schooling for medical services training and I'll lose her. And I'm leery of trying to find another because she was a high school student we knew from church. I didn't have to keep vaccinations updated when they were always home.

E M's avatar

For my itchy Lab, I added salmon oil and coconut oil. Start with a little and work up...and consider raw, not cooked. 😊

DWB's avatar

What are your thoughts on those microchips? More and more cities and countries require them.

Baldmichael's avatar

It is appalling and if nothing else a money making scheme by the greedy bastards who pass such laws. They should be ignored. In the UK they said cats should have them, quite ludicrous.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/im-pussed-off-uk-government-wants?utm_source=publication-search

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Several European countries require either that or a tattoo. One of the reasons I won't go anymore.

Webe1's avatar

It appears that they are now in humans. A lot of self assembling matter has been discovered in human blood post pandemic.

Peace…..Be Still…...'s avatar

My dog during his life was fed a diet of raw meaty bones and organs or whole prey…white teeth, no body odour..a diet designed for the species that he was. The teeth have a purpose….nary a vet visit, no shots or drugs…just like people, healthy dogs aren’t profitable. Inappropriate diets lead to inappropriate outcomes. You wouldn’t feed a horse ground cows but yet it’s perfectly OK. Some people think to feed a carnivore grains….

Big E's avatar

Everyone should share this article with their pet owning friends and family. Think of all the heartbreak they could avoid by not vaccinating, staying away from pesticides and toxic plants, and eating a whole food diet. Hmmm, that prescription works for humans too!

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Katherine's avatar

Important, helpful post! Please consider doing more on animal health. Thank you.