I think all those that love death should commit suicide before aiming their love on others. That would also solve the eugenicist's love of getting rid of 'superfluent' people. The thing is, they seem to love death for others, but they themselves want to live.
It is sad, really sad, to think that only 20 % of what look like humans, are human indeed.
Saying that the world is overpopulated refers to the total number of people on this planet. A significant segment of humanity insists that someone else has a duty to make their lives comfortable with the latest material gadgets and infrastructure; then western do-gooders go along with that fiction, thereby increasing populations numbers and creating environmental destruction and social problems. I admit that those apparent do-gooders are mostly greedy capitalists.
My ancestors didn't work their knuckles to the bone for decades building a civilization just so others could walk into a ready-made advanced society which was never designed for their enjoyment.
Does the mechanism really work the way this article claims it does? There is something different about those who resist: the strength to recognize what they see and believe what they see. Most people see what everyone else sees, but refuse to believe what their own senses are telling them. This strength is internal, a belief in themselves, and especially their intuition-their connection with the Divine within them.
Everything about the Western system is designed to sever that connection so we become robots and subject to mind control. I am not talking about MK-Ultra although such extreme forms of mind control exist, the ordinary mind control most people experience is done by language. The ability to sense BS is dismissed as irrelevant by education which glorifies rational thought.
Consider the word democracy. Our education system distorted the word democracy to mean something good, when it is nothing more than mob rule. It is a system where in a numerically evenly divided population, convincing just one person means the other group's desires, wishes or concerns becomes a non-issue. We see that today. Twisting that word to mean our system of government (done through education) blinds the followers to the real effect of a true democracy and that those who want this can become the 50-1 minority at the blink of an eye, the whims of just one charismatic person with a pathological personality.
So when the left says Trump is destroying democracy, this is a true statement, but those that can't think for themselves will believe that is bad, whereas those who can ask why this is a bad thing, in other words their internal BS meter detects something fishy about that statement. Just because you detect something fishy does not mean you will like what he wants instead, but the ability to question something because it doesn't feel right is on the path towards discovering what is true and what is a manufactured fact.
Something I was not taught in school is that the United States is not a democracy. Never was. It’s a constitutional republic. We have been subject to a lifetime of deception about our history and the world.
I have been deeply influenced by Lobaczewski's work, and independently arrived at the conclusion that there are the three classes of people whom I termed differently but consisted of the same basic metrics. On long reflection, I observe also that the better a person someone is, the more likely they are to be subjected to harms, for multiple reasons. The first is that they are in opposition to the worst group that constantly seeks to benefit themselves at any cost. The second is that they are naturally inoffensive and therefore easier to harm without cost. Third is that they are infectious, inspiring others to join them in their opposition to cruelty and predatory policies.
The middle group seem aware of this, and strive to prevent being targeted as are the humane, so commit atrocities to prevent suffering them. As a schoolboy I also learned to do this, to pick on kids that were picked on so I wouldn't join them. A result of my moral failings and my self reflections is that today, in my dotage, I suffer deep regret for my many failures to stand up and oppose such abuse of others by the cruel. I am not fearless, and I do fear the cruelty I expect to eventually suffer. However, I do not consider myself above the human condition, and note that bravery is not the lack of fear, but the refusal to submit to fear and cravenly commit cruelty.
I have also determined that humility is the font of wisdom, because only people competent to objectively assess their own successes and failures can learn from them, rather than simply repeating mistakes over and again. My research into consciousness has born wonderful fruit, such as the No Hiding theorem that physicists assert, that no information can be lost to the universe. This is relevant to consciousness because people, the persons we are, are almost purely information. There are no physical structures that comprise our thoughts, our principles, or character. Because the No Hiding theorem shows that information can't be lost to the universe, this strongly suggests our persons aren't extinguished when our bodies die, just as the information particles contain about their spin, their charge, and vector isn't lost when the particles fall into black holes.
Because I am incompetent to ever understand the reality of the physical universe, most of which I can't ever even perceive, I am left with belief, as are we all, to stand my feet on regarding my acts. The best evidence I can find strongly suggests our persons are immortal, and persist beyond our possession of our bodies, so I seek today to live as if my acts have meaning and consequences I will suffer or benefit from in perpetuity. When I am able to rationally decide to act, then I seek to do what I am convinced is morally right, because the permanent consequences of my acts will then benefit me, as they do my peers, in perpetuity. What is right to do is right to do for the right reasons, and always will be.
I have learned this by experience, from making mistakes and doing the wrong things too many times and suffering the consequences, and am grateful for the opportunity my ability to reckon my conduct and learn by that self reflection enables me to choose to do what is right, so that I do not worsen my suffering in the world to come. 'Be always sure you are right, then go ahead.'--Davy Crockett
Within this plane, this bottle, creation and decomposition are both vital processes.
Decomposition is secondary to creation, but nonetheless essential.
It is difficult to say why one’s inner nature is drawn towards dark or light.
The dark can provide energies towards creation, on the subtle edge between light and dark.
This is where the sprits gather, this is where you are reborn, this is where the muse’s fish for accompaniment.
Where you see things clearly from the corner of your eye.
We are malleable beings, it is our nature. Bending together is in our nature. Deep understanding is in our nature too, as we are all divine, and have been given the tools to see creation within limits. The suppression of insight is the primary method.
Perhaps I reside in that small group who refused to participate in evil? I was pushed to the limit and was about to be ‘fired’ by my own employer, the federal government where I live re: Covid mandates when at the last moment God granted me a way of escape the jab. The personal stress levels were off the charts as I was coerced and demonized into submission to their will. It was then that my eyes were forced WIDE OPEN. I’ll never EVER trust any government again. I see now the almost total corruption in our society in every sphere of existence. The enemy of mankind is pushing for its final solution as Lucifer approaches his final battle to end the Ages. He was eternally doomed at the foot of the Cross as will be countless minions and fallen ones that will populate Hell. May their existence be forgotten as eternity rolls. 🙏🏻
Thoughtful an thought-stimulating article. The blend of personal and institutional influences makes sense to me. A point of difference with my view is that it is not a moment of thought (or thought for any amount of time) that tilts people toward respect for life. I don't think that thought is a factor in destroying vs. respecting life. I believe the influence is more fundamental than thinking.
This essay raises an excellent explanation for profound differences in attitudes among humanity. The commentary is also astute and useful grist to be retained and pondered.
British control of all opinionmaking laid the ground for historical obfuscation. And explains to this day why few people are aware that a British Scholar wrote the compulsory literature for nazi members in Germany and was seen as the visionary by the leading nazies. Arendt didnt seem to know either.
The three-part characterization of humans (as Fromm put it, the necrophilous, the biophilous, and those in-between) can be viewed in a more optimistic way as an essential and natural diversity in humans. It is not necessary (or even good IMO) to view the necrophilous as inherently evil or psychopathic. I might instead term these three groups neutrally as the "eager followers", the "independent thinkers", and the "silent majority" in the middle. Civilization-level organization is not possible in humans without a balance of these three types of people. Civilization works well when there is a modicum of new ideas (from the independent thinkers), a modicum of careeristic ambition (from the eager followers), and a fairly large amount of cooperation (from the silent majority). However, societal problems arise when an ideology takes root that promotes a large amount of force and coercion to ensure compliance. This is always ideologically related. Often, the ideology originates with the "independent thinkers", and purports to have high-minded goals, but is co-opted and eventually controlled by "eager followers" who seek private advantage by public conformity. Rather than view people as pathological, view the ideology as pathological. I don't mean to say that people who commit atrocities shouldn't be punished: they should be. However, to keep a good society, the main focus should be to resist ideologies that promote use of force and coercion.
Wow. So thought provoking. Thanks for giving us something to wrap or heads and hearts around. I kept thinking more would be said about the mechanism that determines which group one falls into. I kept hoping more would be said about what Fromm said about what the early environments were that were different for determining placement on the spectrum. Because while having healthy boundaries with the love of death people is a love of life, I also think that becoming more loving to ourselves and others cuts to the chase of a better world. And I also really believe that humans don’t know better until they take in understanding of what is worse. So anywhere someone is squashing their feelings is, to me, the mechanism that allows numbness as rightness, and then destruction of life gets a foothold. But can never succeed over love.
In the Old Testament, in the Book of Deuteronomy Chapter 20, Verses 16-18 it advises Abraham's seed to carry out this very action. But they didn't. Now, this is what results. See
"It is not possible to receive undying life in the Truth unless you surrender all resistance to it. You cannot drag along the prejudices of the past and yet hope to unfold Divinity within. You have to cut through the deposits of evolution and reincarnation and be completely receptive and susceptible to the lessons of life. If you meet life squarely, accepting its opposites with equanimity while carrying on your duties in a spirit of selfless love and service, you will not only come in tune with the Infinite, but you yourself will become the Infinite which you seek."
I think all those that love death should commit suicide before aiming their love on others. That would also solve the eugenicist's love of getting rid of 'superfluent' people. The thing is, they seem to love death for others, but they themselves want to live.
It is sad, really sad, to think that only 20 % of what look like humans, are human indeed.
Saying that the world is overpopulated refers to the total number of people on this planet. A significant segment of humanity insists that someone else has a duty to make their lives comfortable with the latest material gadgets and infrastructure; then western do-gooders go along with that fiction, thereby increasing populations numbers and creating environmental destruction and social problems. I admit that those apparent do-gooders are mostly greedy capitalists.
My ancestors didn't work their knuckles to the bone for decades building a civilization just so others could walk into a ready-made advanced society which was never designed for their enjoyment.
Does the mechanism really work the way this article claims it does? There is something different about those who resist: the strength to recognize what they see and believe what they see. Most people see what everyone else sees, but refuse to believe what their own senses are telling them. This strength is internal, a belief in themselves, and especially their intuition-their connection with the Divine within them.
Everything about the Western system is designed to sever that connection so we become robots and subject to mind control. I am not talking about MK-Ultra although such extreme forms of mind control exist, the ordinary mind control most people experience is done by language. The ability to sense BS is dismissed as irrelevant by education which glorifies rational thought.
Consider the word democracy. Our education system distorted the word democracy to mean something good, when it is nothing more than mob rule. It is a system where in a numerically evenly divided population, convincing just one person means the other group's desires, wishes or concerns becomes a non-issue. We see that today. Twisting that word to mean our system of government (done through education) blinds the followers to the real effect of a true democracy and that those who want this can become the 50-1 minority at the blink of an eye, the whims of just one charismatic person with a pathological personality.
So when the left says Trump is destroying democracy, this is a true statement, but those that can't think for themselves will believe that is bad, whereas those who can ask why this is a bad thing, in other words their internal BS meter detects something fishy about that statement. Just because you detect something fishy does not mean you will like what he wants instead, but the ability to question something because it doesn't feel right is on the path towards discovering what is true and what is a manufactured fact.
Something I was not taught in school is that the United States is not a democracy. Never was. It’s a constitutional republic. We have been subject to a lifetime of deception about our history and the world.
I have been deeply influenced by Lobaczewski's work, and independently arrived at the conclusion that there are the three classes of people whom I termed differently but consisted of the same basic metrics. On long reflection, I observe also that the better a person someone is, the more likely they are to be subjected to harms, for multiple reasons. The first is that they are in opposition to the worst group that constantly seeks to benefit themselves at any cost. The second is that they are naturally inoffensive and therefore easier to harm without cost. Third is that they are infectious, inspiring others to join them in their opposition to cruelty and predatory policies.
The middle group seem aware of this, and strive to prevent being targeted as are the humane, so commit atrocities to prevent suffering them. As a schoolboy I also learned to do this, to pick on kids that were picked on so I wouldn't join them. A result of my moral failings and my self reflections is that today, in my dotage, I suffer deep regret for my many failures to stand up and oppose such abuse of others by the cruel. I am not fearless, and I do fear the cruelty I expect to eventually suffer. However, I do not consider myself above the human condition, and note that bravery is not the lack of fear, but the refusal to submit to fear and cravenly commit cruelty.
I have also determined that humility is the font of wisdom, because only people competent to objectively assess their own successes and failures can learn from them, rather than simply repeating mistakes over and again. My research into consciousness has born wonderful fruit, such as the No Hiding theorem that physicists assert, that no information can be lost to the universe. This is relevant to consciousness because people, the persons we are, are almost purely information. There are no physical structures that comprise our thoughts, our principles, or character. Because the No Hiding theorem shows that information can't be lost to the universe, this strongly suggests our persons aren't extinguished when our bodies die, just as the information particles contain about their spin, their charge, and vector isn't lost when the particles fall into black holes.
Because I am incompetent to ever understand the reality of the physical universe, most of which I can't ever even perceive, I am left with belief, as are we all, to stand my feet on regarding my acts. The best evidence I can find strongly suggests our persons are immortal, and persist beyond our possession of our bodies, so I seek today to live as if my acts have meaning and consequences I will suffer or benefit from in perpetuity. When I am able to rationally decide to act, then I seek to do what I am convinced is morally right, because the permanent consequences of my acts will then benefit me, as they do my peers, in perpetuity. What is right to do is right to do for the right reasons, and always will be.
I have learned this by experience, from making mistakes and doing the wrong things too many times and suffering the consequences, and am grateful for the opportunity my ability to reckon my conduct and learn by that self reflection enables me to choose to do what is right, so that I do not worsen my suffering in the world to come. 'Be always sure you are right, then go ahead.'--Davy Crockett
Thanks!
Brilliant piece!
Within this plane, this bottle, creation and decomposition are both vital processes.
Decomposition is secondary to creation, but nonetheless essential.
It is difficult to say why one’s inner nature is drawn towards dark or light.
The dark can provide energies towards creation, on the subtle edge between light and dark.
This is where the sprits gather, this is where you are reborn, this is where the muse’s fish for accompaniment.
Where you see things clearly from the corner of your eye.
We are malleable beings, it is our nature. Bending together is in our nature. Deep understanding is in our nature too, as we are all divine, and have been given the tools to see creation within limits. The suppression of insight is the primary method.
Perhaps I reside in that small group who refused to participate in evil? I was pushed to the limit and was about to be ‘fired’ by my own employer, the federal government where I live re: Covid mandates when at the last moment God granted me a way of escape the jab. The personal stress levels were off the charts as I was coerced and demonized into submission to their will. It was then that my eyes were forced WIDE OPEN. I’ll never EVER trust any government again. I see now the almost total corruption in our society in every sphere of existence. The enemy of mankind is pushing for its final solution as Lucifer approaches his final battle to end the Ages. He was eternally doomed at the foot of the Cross as will be countless minions and fallen ones that will populate Hell. May their existence be forgotten as eternity rolls. 🙏🏻
Hard to disagree with you, at least as far as mistrust of governments is concerned. Ever heard of Larken Rose?
Mind you, he is right in theory but in practical terms, I am not so sure anyone is going to listen to him.
Sure would like to hear some details about your eyes being "forced wide open".
Thoughtful an thought-stimulating article. The blend of personal and institutional influences makes sense to me. A point of difference with my view is that it is not a moment of thought (or thought for any amount of time) that tilts people toward respect for life. I don't think that thought is a factor in destroying vs. respecting life. I believe the influence is more fundamental than thinking.
It seems amazing that only 20 percent would resist orders. Yet, I wonder what percentage of the US is really prolife? Interesting thoughtful article.
This essay raises an excellent explanation for profound differences in attitudes among humanity. The commentary is also astute and useful grist to be retained and pondered.
British control of all opinionmaking laid the ground for historical obfuscation. And explains to this day why few people are aware that a British Scholar wrote the compulsory literature for nazi members in Germany and was seen as the visionary by the leading nazies. Arendt didnt seem to know either.
The banality of evil was more prevalent in the past.
Big example: only a few decades ago people were mostly ok with apartheid.... Even after ww2!
https://robc137.substack.com/p/the-milgram-experiment-and-how-we
Also keep in mind lead poisoning as gasoline had it until the 80s and 90s.
I've read some Unamuno, but I've never heard this story about him. Interesting. Good essay. Thanks.
The three-part characterization of humans (as Fromm put it, the necrophilous, the biophilous, and those in-between) can be viewed in a more optimistic way as an essential and natural diversity in humans. It is not necessary (or even good IMO) to view the necrophilous as inherently evil or psychopathic. I might instead term these three groups neutrally as the "eager followers", the "independent thinkers", and the "silent majority" in the middle. Civilization-level organization is not possible in humans without a balance of these three types of people. Civilization works well when there is a modicum of new ideas (from the independent thinkers), a modicum of careeristic ambition (from the eager followers), and a fairly large amount of cooperation (from the silent majority). However, societal problems arise when an ideology takes root that promotes a large amount of force and coercion to ensure compliance. This is always ideologically related. Often, the ideology originates with the "independent thinkers", and purports to have high-minded goals, but is co-opted and eventually controlled by "eager followers" who seek private advantage by public conformity. Rather than view people as pathological, view the ideology as pathological. I don't mean to say that people who commit atrocities shouldn't be punished: they should be. However, to keep a good society, the main focus should be to resist ideologies that promote use of force and coercion.
Wow. So thought provoking. Thanks for giving us something to wrap or heads and hearts around. I kept thinking more would be said about the mechanism that determines which group one falls into. I kept hoping more would be said about what Fromm said about what the early environments were that were different for determining placement on the spectrum. Because while having healthy boundaries with the love of death people is a love of life, I also think that becoming more loving to ourselves and others cuts to the chase of a better world. And I also really believe that humans don’t know better until they take in understanding of what is worse. So anywhere someone is squashing their feelings is, to me, the mechanism that allows numbness as rightness, and then destruction of life gets a foothold. But can never succeed over love.
In the Old Testament, in the Book of Deuteronomy Chapter 20, Verses 16-18 it advises Abraham's seed to carry out this very action. But they didn't. Now, this is what results. See
From Jonathan of Jon@thefrozenfoodsection.com
2026/4/28
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This theme reminds me of an excerpt from a message in "Life at It's Best" by Meher Baba, "The Immortality of Universal Life." [www.avatarmeherbaba.org/erics/immortal.html]
"It is not possible to receive undying life in the Truth unless you surrender all resistance to it. You cannot drag along the prejudices of the past and yet hope to unfold Divinity within. You have to cut through the deposits of evolution and reincarnation and be completely receptive and susceptible to the lessons of life. If you meet life squarely, accepting its opposites with equanimity while carrying on your duties in a spirit of selfless love and service, you will not only come in tune with the Infinite, but you yourself will become the Infinite which you seek."