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David's avatar

After two cesarean births, my wife and I decided to have the next one at home with a midwife. Dealing with doctors and hospitals just wasn't going to work. No one there wanted to do a VBAC after one, let alone two cesareans. Talk about a world of difference. A home birth with a midwife is 100x better all around. Period.

Denigee's avatar

I did 2 vbac births myself. No complications unless Jaundice is one, for all 3 babies. Sunlight, breastfeeding and ofcourse they recommended the bililight blanket in hospital and at home with my middle child. I didn't know enough about refusing vit k shot. I do have regrets for all 3 and the vaccines they received as infants tiddlers etc.. Birthing options were definitely going thru changes in early and then late 90s. My oldest with her own baby was not offered a birthing plan.

Cathleen's avatar

Bravo to Chris and Hannah! After reading how the doctor/midwifes were so convinced that the baby would have issues if not given the vitamin K vaccine, etc, and the mother would have issues if not doing all the "tests" and taken vaccines during pregnancy, you'd have to wonder how babies and mothers survived child birth for thousand of years.

Jennifer Terry's avatar

I watched a friend of mine go through all of this- even with midwives at the hospital. She was young & fit & they tried to talk her into every test, including the amniocentesis!! Being a first time mom at 40, I knew they would absolutely insist on a c section for me. I was lucky enough to know some homebirth midwives and a lovely woman with a house 5 minutes away from the hospital (we had to birth in the next state over since Illinois doesn't allow traditional midwives) she let us borrow. I know home birth isn't for everyone, but I absolutely think everyone should prepare for birth AS IF they were going to do it at home. We studied midwifery texts to be familiar with what was happening physically during labor and what interventions did & all the consequences of each. I absolutely don't know how anyone is expected to stand up to the hospital's coercion when she is going through labor and hasn't learned all the ins and outs before hand. You are entirely at their mercy when they try to tell you you you are "putting baby at risk" if you don't do everything they say.

David's avatar

Home births should be for everyone, though. Unfortunately, most people have been brainwashed into thinking that modern medicine has improved upon nature. It hasn't. It runs deep, whether intentional or not. Birthing babies is just one of the more egregious examples of this mindset.

Le Chat Noir's avatar

This comes at an appropriate time for me, being currently pregnant with my first child. I have come across my GPs keenness to give me a whooping cough vaccine, and to warn me that I should go with the flow at birth because a c-section is sometimes necessary. I’m not sure I would call it “predatory”, though. More myopically-hyper focused on short term outcomes (that reflect directly on them). It’s all about them being very comfortable that mum and baby will stay alive during birth and first few months, with little consideration of the longer term impact of those interventions, which may be applied unnecessarily in many cases just to cover all bases.

CurationCorner's avatar

I would disagree with you it is indeed predatory as they are highly rewarded as they continue to coerce you and your child into a lifetime of ill health and further dependence on their consultation and continued treatment with chemicals

Unbekoming's avatar

When I describe it as predatory, I am referring to the "nature of the system", rather than the doctor in front of you.

I outline my thoughts on this in more detail in the intro to this post

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/baby-formula-and-breastfeeding

ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

Unless you were never jabbed for WC as a kid, you are immune and don't requrire one. Nor will your child (congrats). Avoid his Flu jab too it is not necessary and this yrs batch comes with some very nasty stuff. Be sure no Heb B for your baby. Make the doc wait until the cord stops pulsing before it is clamped. Unbecoming has a sub on that one.

Le Chat Noir's avatar

Yes I’ve already declined the flu shot because it’s pretty useless in my opinion. I’ve been wrestling with the idea of the WC. I was vaccinated for it ten years ago but supposedly it wears off after ten years.

ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

Correct on the 19 years, your WC jab was before all jabs going to mRNA inclusion. Put it in your body, you put it in your baby's. I'd be more afraid of Autism. Even then, a WC jab had bad side effects, you just missed them.

I've had MMR and Chickenpox as a child, and their current Propaganda is hysterical. And Fear Mongering.

Roisin Dubh's avatar

I had great difficulty finding a doctor as I refused to do any ultrasounds. I hired a midwife who said she had hundreds of home birth successes, only one client needed to go to the hospital. I was the second. After 36 hours of labour, the doc said I could try Pitocin but there were no guarantees it would work, and I was risking putting the baby into distress. That was all I needed to hear so I felt I had to do a C section, which I really did not want, but fear ruled the day. I signed a waiver against the hep B and don't remember about the K shot. I developed a fever, and the hospital said they could not legally release me unless I took antibiotics. I refused, had Belladonna 200c brought in by family, the fever subsided. The doc through the side of his eye saw the remedy next to the bed, he said nothing except your fever is down so you can leave. Hospitals and doctors are doing more than providing a service, they are exerting control and its easy by leveraging the natural fear a mother feels to protect her child. Yes, we do need the option of a C section and the availability of a hospital, but it isn't ideal.

Mediocrates's avatar

My young brother was a home birth in a rural location. He is now 76yr old, upright, active and healthy.

Roisin Dubh's avatar

My grandmothers had all of their many kids at home. It was the norm. I think we still need the option of emergency care, because sometimes emergencies happen. The problem is it has become lucrative to medicalize the birthing process, and women are pressured to comply in all sorts of ways.

Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Re the GP pressing vaccines upon Hannah…

The Royal College of General Practitioners is in bed with the vaccine industry-funded Immunisation Coalition, which is sponsored and supported by the likes of CSL Seqirus, Pfizer, moderna, Sanofi, GSK and others.

As boasted on the Immunisation Coalition website: https://www.immunisationcoalition.org.au/

QUOTE

The Immunisation Coalition is now officially approved by the RACGP to offer accredited CPD education to General Practitioners (GPs).

We will continue to offer the latest scientific information, ensuring best practice in immunisation, and optimal clinical outcomes for patients in their care and where possible, award CPD hours to future GP activities.

See our events for more information.

END OF QUOTE

Seriously, the vaccine industry-funded Immunisation Coalition is funding the further ‘education’ of GPs.

The general public has no idea because we have no authentic fourth estate to expose this scandal.

Also see my article: The vaccine industry sponsors vaccination education for doctors... https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-industry-sponsors-vaccination

CM Maccioli's avatar

Thanks for the links Elizabeth. When covid rampt up I took particular notice to Australia and NZ. With a vax uptake of way over 90% I was shocked by their compliance and draconian dragnet by cops and snitches coming down hard on the population. As bad as it was here, Australia and NZ were far worse.

Lynda Hill's avatar

Oh yes, indeed, it was very bad. And traumatising long term on many counts-including how a once-sensible and down to earth nation could so easily be deceived and even killed in some instances by the devices and behaviour of one 'woman'; Jabcinda Adern, now touted as a saviour and expert and awarded honorary degrees from Harvard and Oxford and more financial gain via Prince William and his Trust.

CM Maccioli's avatar

Indeed. The sight of her/him (who knows) and Theresa Tam of Canada fame, to say nothing of Anthony Fauci, made my gag reflex explode. I never complied with any protocol here. It wasn't easy, had confrontations, but never got choked, tasered, slammed up against the wall or hauled away by police as was evident on videos in The Commonwealth countries, the founders of the Magna Carta, that showed no quarter to it's citizens. It was pure tyranny.

Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Thanks for your response CM.

For more re the Australian situation, see: The Australian Government destroyed valid consent for COVID-19 vaccination... https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/the-australian-government-destroyed

misty's avatar

The birthing process is natural... Not a medical procedure. I had 3 hospital births - 1 traumatic (which I now believe was due to medical interventions), and 2 planned c-sections. I recently learned how beautiful a home birth can be due to my daughter having her first baby in the comforts of her own home with her husband, the midwives, and myself present. I still marvel at the difference in the atmosphere and how that impacts mom and baby.

Eva's avatar

Similar experience here. I knew I'd be pressured into all manner of testing because I was going to be 40 during this pregnancy. I declined all of them. The doctor said the odds of downs or another issue were high because of my age and I'd want to know so I could decide whether or not to continue the pregnancy. I was shocked. Of course I'm continuing no matter what. No tests. The last straw was when I asked if he'd help with a home birth, since I was due in winter and we live on top of a mountain. No way did I want to risk being on a back mountain road in labor during a storm. He told me homebirths were child abuse and the baby needed those K and vit d shots or else. I was fortunate to find a midwife who was wonderful and made it to my home just in time before the roads were closed because of a major storm in 1996. She ended up having to stay the night because there was no way out. Baby was perfect. Still perfect to this day 28 years later. Follow your instincts. Do the research. Question everything. I'm so glad I did.

CurationCorner's avatar

Good on you!!! I wish you much joy and perfect health & I am sure your beautiful girl will thrive with devoting; intelligent and vigilant parents like yourselves keep up the good fight

Mediocrates's avatar

Pregnancy is NOT a disease. Pregancy is a miracle of normal human physiology and must be regarded (NOT TREATED) with the respect that the mother and baby are entitled to.

Nancy Hoyt's avatar

Thank you for sharing your story. Cartel Medicine is indeed predatory. They're in the "sick" business. "Customers for Life" should be their service mark.

Micah's avatar

I have seven children - everything about this is completely and entirely accurate. Well done, you.

Brian Costello's avatar

Wonderful Read. And I’m a 69 year old man. So Proud of them for Educating Themselves. Next time have a Vitamin C Baby. 🧐. How Sheepalized most have Become. Sadly. Good Luck 👍

jon archer's avatar

Good god .

What a battle.

cb's avatar

Thank you for sharing. It’s always inspiring to hear these stories. We need more of them.

A friend went from having a placental abruption during her first childbirth to freebirthing her second child. She shared her incredible story here https://anchor.fm/s/fa8d6030/podcast/rss