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Mario Fleck's avatar

What a shameful distortion of historical and actual facts. Not a single word about the permanent idea of Palestinian Arabs for the destruction of Israel. Complete reversal of reality regarding the 67 war. Pappe is a famous liar, totally excluded from mainstream and serious historians. Not a word about the huge investment done in Gaza to build an underground system - not to protect its citizens but to hide cowards and savages building an opportunity to massacre Israeli civilians.

Shame on publishing this piece of crap.

Linda Hagge's avatar

Hundreds of books say you're completely wrong. Every serious historian agrees with Pappe, and many are Jewish. Not a single thing you wrote above is supported by history. Tareq Baconi

Hamas Contained: The Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance

Jacques Baud

Operation Al-Aqsa Flood: The Defeat of the Vanquisher

Benjamin Beit-Hallami

Original Sins: Reflections on the History of Zionism and Israel

Ronan Bergman

Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations

Edwin Black

The Transfer Agreement—Pact between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine

Max Blumenthal

Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel

The 51 Day War: Ruin and Resistance in Gaza

Francis A. Boyle

Palestine, Palestinians and International Law

The Palestinian Right of Return Under International Law

Lenni Brenner

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis

Bradley Burston

The End of Israel: Dispatches from a Path to Catastrophe

Paola Caridi

Hamas: From Resistance to Regime

Ian Carroll

Israel and Palestine: The Complete History

Henry Cattan

The Palestine Question

Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe, Frank Barat

On Palestine

Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe

Gaza in Crisis

Ta-Nahisi Coates

The Message

Alan Dowty

Arabs and Jews in Ottoman Palestine: Two Worlds Collide

Robert Dreyfuss

Devil’s Game: How the the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam

Asaf Elia-Shalev

Israel’s Black Panthers: The Radicals Who Punctured a Nation’s Founding Myth

James M. Ennes Jr.

The Assault on the Liberty

Noura Erakat

Justice for Some: Law and the Question of Palestine

Rosemarie Esber

Under the Cover of War: The Zionist Expulsion of the Palestinians

Marjorie Feld

The Threshold of Dissent: A History of American Jewish Critics of Zionism

Jean-Pierre Filiu

Gaza: A History

Norman Finkelstein

The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering

Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict

Method and Madness: The Hidden Story of Israel’s Assaults on Gaza

Gaza: An Inquest into Its Martyrdom*

Knowing Too Much

Simha Flapan

The Birth of Israel

David Fromkin

A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire

Irene Gendzier

Dying to Forget: Oil, Power, Palestine and the Foundation of US Middle East Policy

Philip H. Gordon

Losing the Long Game: The False Promise of Regime Change in the Middle East

Tony Greenstein

Zionism During the Holocaust

Jeroen Gunning

Hamas in Politics: Democracy, Religion, Violence

Jeff Halper

War Against the People: Israel, the Palestinians and Global Pacification*

Decolonizing Israel, Liberating Palestine

Jeremy Hammond

Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Alan Hart

Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews: The False Messiah* 11/24 essential

Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews: David Becomes Goliath* 11/24 essential

Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews: Conflict Without End* 11/24 essential

Amira Hass

Drinking the Sea at Gaza

Seymour Hersh

The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy

Arthur Hertzberg

The Zionist Idea: A Historical Analysis and Reader

Marc Lamont Hill, Mitchell Plitnick

Except for Palestine: The Limits of Progressive Politics

Peter Hounam

Operation Cyanide

Khaled Hroub

Hamas: A Beginner’s Guide

Matthew Hughes

Britain’s Pacification of Palestine: British Army, Colonial State, Arab Revolt

Institute for Palestine Studies

From Haven to Conquest: Readings in Zionism and the Palestine Problem

Noga Kadman and Oren Yiftachel

Erased from Space and Consciousness: Israel and the Depopulated Villages

Matthew Craig Kelly

The Crime of Nationalism: Britain, Palestine and Nation Building

Oren Kessler

Palestine 1936: The Great Revolt and the Roots of the Middle East Conflict

Rashid Khalidi

The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine

Brokers of Deceit

Walid Khalidi

All That Remains: Palestinian Villages Occupied and Depopulated by Israel

Baruch Kimmerling

Politicide: The Real Legacy of Ariel Sharon

Kovalik, Dan and Galloway, George

The Case for Palestine

Walter Laqueur

A History of Zionism: From the French Revolution to the Establishment of Israel

Gideon Levy

The Killing of Gaza: Reports on a Catastrophe

The Punishment of Gaza

Mario Liverani

Israel’s History and the History of Israel

Antony Loewenstein

The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports the Technology of Occupation

Nur Masalha

Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History

Expulsion of the Palestinians: Concept of “Transfer” in Zionist Political Thought

The Bible and Zionism: Invented Traditions, Archaeology and Post-Colonialism

The Zionist Bible: Biblical Precedent, Colonialism, and the Erasure of Memory

Palestine Across Millennia: History of Literacy, Learning, Educational Revolutions

John Mearsheimer, Stephen M. Walt

The Israel Lobby and U. S. Foreign Policy

Moshe Menuhin, Mark Crispin Miller

“Not By Might, Nor By Power”: The Zionist Betrayal of Judaism

Hajo G. Meyer

The End of Judaism

David N. Myers

Re-inventing the Jewish Past: European Jewish Intellectuals & the Zionist Return

Peter Oborne

The Fate of Abraham: Why the West Is Wrong About Islam

Michael B. Oren

Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East

Ilan Pappe

Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic

The Idea of Israel: A History of Power and Knowledge

The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine* Essential text

A History of Modern Palestine

10 Myths About Israel*

A Very Short History of the Israel-Palestine Conflict

Miko Peled

General’s Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine

Nurit Peled-Elhanan

Palestine in Israeli School Books: Ideology and Propaganda in Education

John Quigley

Britain and Its Mandate over Palestine

The Legality of a Jewish State

The Six-Day War and Israeli Self-Defense

The International Diplomacy of Israel’s Founders

The Statehood of Palestine: International Law in the Middle East Conflict

Yakov Rabkin

A Threat From Within: Jewish Opposition to Zionism

Mitri Raheb

Decolonizing Palestine: The Land, the People, the Bible

Faith in the Face of Empire: The Bible through Palestinian Eyes

Adam Raz

Loot: How Israel Stole Palestinian Property

Eugene Rogan

The Damascus Events: 1860 Massacre and the Making of the Modern Middle East

The Arabs: A History

The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East

Livia Rokach

Israel’s Sacred Terrorism: A Study Based on Moshe Sharett’s Personal Diary

John Rose

The Myths of Zionism

Sara Roy

Unsilencing Gaza: Reflections on Resistance

Karl Sabbagh

Palestine: History of a Lost Nation

Edward Said

The Politics of Dispossession: The Struggle for Palestinian Self-Determination

The Question of Palestine

Atef Abu Saif

Don’t Look Left: A Diary of Genocide

Schlomo Sand

The Invention of the Land of Israel

The Invention of the Jewish People

How I Stopped Being a Jew

Rosemary Sayigh

The Palestinians: From Peasants to Revolutionaries

Ralph Schoenman

The Hidden History of Zionism

James M. Scott

The Attack on the Liberty

Tom Segev

1949: The First Israelis

1967: Israel, the War, and the Year That Transformed the Middle East

A State At Any Cost: The Life of David Ben-Gurion

One Palestine, Complete: Jews and Arabs Under the British Mandate

The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust

Peter Shambrook

Policy of Deceit: Britain and Palestine, 1914-1939

Ari Shavit

My Promised Land: The Triumph and Tragedy of Israel

Avi Shlaim

The Iron Wall: Israel and the Arab World

Three Worlds: Memoirs of an Arab Jew

Israel and Palestine: Reappraisals, Revisions, Refutations

Collusion Across the Jordan

War and Peace in the Middle East: A Concise History

The War for Palestine: Rewriting the History of 1948

Jamie Stern-Weiner

Deluge: Gaza and Israel from Crisis to Cataclysm

Thomas Suarez

State of Terror

Palestine Hijacked

Gordon Thomas

Gideon’s Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad

Alison Weir

Against Our Better Judgment

Asa Winstanley

Weaponising Anti-Semitism

Ori Yehudai

Leaving Zion: Jewish Emigration from Palestine and Israel after World War II

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Oh, Linda! Wow. Thank you. That list will get copied and pasted.

Justfiguringitout's avatar

For me, reading Bloodbrothers from Elias Chacour changed me mind entirely.

Linda Hagge's avatar

Yes--a good book, and one likely to convince Christians who have dispensationalist views.

Justfiguringitout's avatar

I have my doubts. But it is worthwhile trying next time I meet one.

Diana Murray's avatar

Linda also reposts stuff like this:

"The October 7 Hamas Assault on Israel

The Most Successful Military Raid of this Century

Scott Ritter"

Diana Murray's avatar

“Hundreds”

Hundreds of books can be wrong.

Linda Hagge's avatar

You do realize those books cite thousands of primary sources, including the British Archives, the British War Archives, the Israeli Archives, contemporary Palestine newspapers, the diaries of both Zionists and British Mandate authorities, the archives of the three Zionist terrorist organizations, AND the early prime ministers and other officials of Israel, as well as the testimonies of Palestinians who were there, right?

Linda Hagge's avatar

LOL--yes, hundreds of books by university historians and foreign policy experts, many of whom are Jewish, all of which agree with each other, are just wrong and Diana is right.

Diana Murray's avatar

I didn't say I was right. I said "hundreds of books" can be wrong.

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

What made the Balfour Declaration lawful? Given what it would mean for the people living under the British "Mandate?"

Linda Hagge's avatar

It wasn't. In the first place, Balfour didn't write it. He had Zionists write it. But also, many in Parliament were furious about it. It was well known that Britain had promised Palestinians statehood in exchange for fighting against the Ottomans in WW1, and now with Balfour, they had promised two opposing things to two different groups. Everything that now is occurring has proceeded from that one illegal act.

Diana Murray's avatar

"It was well known that Britain had promised Palestinians statehood in exchange for fighting against the Ottomans in WW1."

LOL. No such thing happened.

Linda Hagge's avatar

The promise was made by Sir Henry McMahon prior to WW1. It was made to all the Middle East provinces of the Ottoman Empire, including Palestine. You can look this up. It is referred to in the UN pages on the Israel/Palestine issue, and it is referred to in International Law scholar John Quigley's book on The Legality of a Jewish State, and in many other books. This is why the Balfour Declaration caused a stink when it came before Parliament for discussion, because members of Parliament knew Palestine had been promised independence. Britain had essentially made three conflicting promises: the Sykes-Picot Agreement with France, the McMahon letters, and the Balfour Declaration. Give it up, Diana. You know absolutely nothing.

Diana Murray's avatar

The Hussein-McMahon Correspondence focused on Arab independence in a general sense and never once mentioned "the Palestinians."

Ibn Saud got his country & consolidated power.

Give it up, Linda. You know less than nothing.

"Give it up, Diana. You know absolutely nothing."

Was that bit of cuntiness absolutely necessary?

As always, you scum resort to contempt and nastiness. For that, I am blocking you.

Jen Gilman Porat's avatar

Pappe is the token so many antisemites carry.

Diana Murray's avatar

“In an interview, Pappe said, "Indeed the struggle is about ideology, not about facts. Who knows what facts are? We try to convince as many people as we can that our interpretation of the facts is the correct one, and we do it because of ideological reasons, not because we are truthseekers.”

Turfseer's avatar

Israel’s Necessity for Strength in the Face of Palestinian Extremism

Ilan Pappé’s The Biggest Prison on Earth paints a distorted picture of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, presenting Israel as an unprovoked oppressor while ignoring the persistent and existential threats it has faced since its inception. This revisionist narrative neglects a critical reality: Israel has always needed to be tough because Palestinian leadership has never been moderate, nor has it ever effectively controlled violent extremism within its ranks.

Palestinian Leadership: A History of Rejectionism and Incitement

From the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini’s alliance with Hitler to Yasser Arafat’s PLO orchestrating decades of terror attacks, Palestinian leadership has never demonstrated moderation or a genuine interest in peace. Every Israeli offer for compromise—including the 1947 UN Partition Plan, the 2000 Camp David Summit, and the 2008 Olmert proposal—has been met with outright rejection or violent uprisings.

Hamas, which seized Gaza in 2007, openly calls for Israel’s destruction in its charter and has turned the territory into a launching pad for rocket attacks against civilians. Even the Palestinian Authority (PA), which governs the West Bank, pays salaries to terrorists and glorifies "martyrs" who murder Israelis. How can Israel negotiate or extend goodwill under these conditions?

Lack of Control Over Extremists

Pappé’s book conveniently ignores the fact that no Palestinian government has ever disarmed terror groups within its jurisdiction. Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad operate freely in Gaza, while the PA in the West Bank has repeatedly failed (or refused) to dismantle terror cells. The October 7th, 2023 massacre—where Hamas slaughtered over 1,200 Israelis, including children—demonstrates why Israel must maintain stringent security measures.

The so-called "prison" analogy collapses under scrutiny: when Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, it left greenhouses and infrastructure that could have helped build an economy. Instead, Gaza became a terror base. Had the Palestinians built a functioning state instead of waging relentless war, restrictions would not have been necessary.

Security Measures Are a Response, Not an Agenda

The book portrays Israeli checkpoints, the security barrier, and military operations as mechanisms of oppression rather than necessary responses to relentless Palestinian terrorism. The security fence, for example, was only built after suicide bombings killed over 1,000 Israelis during the Second Intifada. The blockade on Gaza was imposed after Hamas seized power and intensified rocket attacks. These measures exist because of real threats, not some sinister Israeli plot to control Palestinians indefinitely.

Conclusion

Pappé’s narrative distorts history by ignoring Palestinian intransigence, their leadership’s encouragement of terrorism, and Israel’s repeated peace efforts. Israel has no choice but to be tough because it faces enemies who refuse to recognize its right to exist and who have consistently used violence as a political tool. Until Palestinian leadership renounces terrorism and takes responsibility for controlling extremists, Israeli security policies will remain a necessary defense against existential threats.

KuhnKat's avatar

You just earned an unsubscribe for your lack of diligence and swallowing propaganda.

Susanna Mills's avatar

This article is like a suicide bomber to your Substack.

CM Maccioli's avatar

Israel is a genocidal entity that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth. The destruction, death, tyranny they inflict is only because of the greed, theft and money control they have on the entire world. May I remind you that only the countries that have their own state banks are targeted as terrorist regimes. That tells you everything you need to know.

In order to control everything, Thought Crimes are passed in countries, anti-semitism charges levied against anyone who questions the fake holocaust which is the cornerstone for their victimhood status. A provable falsehood, easily debunked. When that fake narrative dissolves, Israel will cease to exist. That day can't come soon enough.

Catherina's avatar

They really are the devils aren't they. How dare they let the desert bloom, how dare they not just let all the missiles and rockets land on them. How dare they fight terrorism. How dare they not allow tunnels and terrorism et al. stay below a refugee camp/city getting 'help' from the UN (UNRAW) for decades because of the 'refugee' status. How dare they warn the civilians to get out so that they can defend themselves against the coldblooded lying terrorists. How dare they not take the blame for the Arabs chasing the Arabs into camps those decades ago. How dare they decades ago allowed to be called "Palestinians'. How dare they have had a publication called the Palestinian Post and changed it to Jerusalem Post in 1950. How dared the world call their ww2 brigade the Palestinian brigade. How dare they not say those Arabs flocking to the blooming desert for jobs and better lifestyles as their own trampled on them, how dare they not call them the Palestinian Nation that was forever. How dare President Trump try and give these (who are allowed to lie and their non is not no and their yes is not yes - their religion dictates that) people hope of living in a not refugee camp used by the UN and their terrorist overlords. How dare they ..................

CM Maccioli's avatar

Do you know history dear? The Arabs fought with England to bring down the Ottoman Empire during WW1 and were guaranteed by T.E.Lawrence that success would bring about their independence. Of course, England lied and kept Palestine, a thriving country, safely on the shelf to bring about the Balfour Declaration, giving Palestine to the jews after they created the fake scenario that Hitler gassed 6 million jews, and thus needed their homeland back. I wonder how you would feel if a rogue tribe of people entered your country, stole your land and home, cut your food and water supply and used your children, playing outside, for sniper practice.

Catherina's avatar

I do know my history dear, that is why I know about the lying.

Gecko1's avatar

Israel is the terrorist.

Catherina's avatar

The one's who made the desert bloom and this attracted the Arabs for better living opportunities? Are you saying that is why they worked their asses off to be terrorists one day? Nah, that does not jel with the truth.

Gecko1's avatar

Tired hasbara tropes.

Catherina's avatar

Isn't Gaza a refugee camp for Arabs who were chased into camps by Arabs? Seeing the UN presence .................. in the form of UNWRA? Only refugee camps qualify for ............ It is quite convenient to build a terrorist network under a city - it is not easy to dismantle in a war with civilian human shields ........... How do you make peace with people who's religion is they may lie ............ their no is not a no and there yah is not a yah? Quite the puzzle to solve ............... (P.S. the Palestinian Post became The Jerusalem Post ......... so perhaps the Palestinians were the Jews ....... not so long ago ............... )

Linda Hagge's avatar

No. No one was "chased into camps by Arabs"--Palestinians were butchered, raped, burned and bombed into fleeing by Zionist terrorist groups and soldiers in 1947 and 1948. That has now been established by numerous Israeli historians as well as others--no doubt about it, since this is clear in every primary source from the time, including the Israeli archives, the British archives, the diaries of British and Israelis, and the testimonies of Palestinians who went through it. Suggest you read Rosemarie Esber's book Under the Cover of War. The only group ever convicted of using human shields is Israel, by their own Supreme Court. No human rights group has ever found Hamas uses human shields. Your analysis of Islam is based on pure ignorance--you've never read the Quran, which has been proved by computer linguistic analysis to be the least violent of the Abrahamic scriptures, including the New Testament. By far the most violent of the three is the Hebrew Scripture, violent enough to be purely repellent. The Palestinian Post was the Palestinian Post because that particular land was called Palestine for 99% of its existence, beginning in 1000 BC. Called Palestine by Ancient Egypt, Herodotus, Aristotle, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Crusaders and everyone else in the Middle Ages, Shakespeare and everyone else in the Renaissance, the various Muslim empires, including the Ottoman, and then the British. Yes, the Palestinians might be the Jews from VERY long ago, because they have Canaanite DNA, which means they lived in Palestine 3000 years ago and are indigenous to the place. We don't know which one of the various Canaanite tribes they descended from, but it doesn't really matter, because we do know that the Israelites didn't exist until the Iron Age, so they formed their tribe from disparate other groups after the Bronze Age collapse. They are not an ethnicity. Seriously, read a book or ten, and stop listening to hasbara.

Catherina's avatar

Really? Are you one of those who are allowed to lie ..............

Linda Hagge's avatar

ROFLMAO. Yes, me and every historian. FFS.

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

How did the imposition of a geopolitical state and the forced removal of indigenous people aid and abet what has happened subsequently? How did Balfour aid and abet this situation?

Catherina's avatar

Arabs chased Arabs into camps, that is Gaza - Hebron too, a camp with refugee status - but go and inspect, you will see a bustling city. The fraud is rampant to get 'aid' for the 'destitute', who flocked there when the Israelis made the desert bloom. The land was desolate when those who said to each other 'next year in Jerusalem' came back to their land. The real history is twisted to have a 'Palestinian nation' that never was. Read Joan Peters' book 'From Time Immemorial".

She Speaks Truth's avatar

Anyone care to defend a culture that cheers over the coffins of dead Jewish babies? These people are an evil-infected monstrous death cult.

Chris Kanon's avatar

Yeah don’s idea was just a negotiating tactic. He just wants the locals to solve their own problems so he’s suggesting outlandish things to get them to propose alternatives. Seems to be working…

Btw I’m not a fan but let’s keep watching and see what transpires.

Andrew Deane's avatar

How many acts of assassination and terrorism does it take to realise that Zionism is evil, satanic and brutal.

From JFK, RFK, MLK, USS Liberty, 9/11, Iraq and Afghanistan and Ukraine.

Not to mention the pedophile, child sacrifice/trafficing rings and subsequent murders of Anthony Bourdain, Chester Bennington, Avici and Chris Cornell, amongst others who were ready to expose it all.

https://stopworldcontrol.com/videos/The-Mystery-Of-Israel-Solved.mp4

Amy Doescher's avatar

I’d love to see you write about the state of the state of California right now. This sort of Q&A or doge like inquiry into the corruption here

Dave's avatar

https://youtube.com/shorts/CI0BiHvwDSI?si=59gx5aPqobZL_Lxn

Disgraceful! All part of the plan to turn it into the Middle East Riviera.

Mike Ashley's avatar

Pappe is a senior prison officer !!

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Catherina's avatar

Wow, so chasing Arabs into camps by Arabs and then keeping them there for decades as refugees with the UN (and the world through begging) giving aid, hence the presence of UNWRA, using the UN to build a network of terrorism underneath civilians and launching rockets on the Israeli population constantly, not even talking about all the suicide bombings et al. (the victims perpetrating these atrocities are promised paradise and their relatives are paid handsomely), now that sounds just angelical. How dare the Israelis feel threatened? Palestinians were the Jews not so long ago. Yasser Arafat is an Egyptian, likewise the Palestinians are actually Arabs from Egypt and Jordan and these poor Arabs are not welcome back in Jordan nor in Egypt, wonder why?

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Catherina's avatar

So all those that said 'next year in Jerusalem' for hundreds of years, arriving in a desolate land the were scattered from, working their asses off to make the dessert bloom, was all so they can be devils threatening you in America.