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Ki Consciousness's avatar

My own experience should have fully opened my eyes to the systemic evils of the medical establishment. Alarmingly, because it occurred when I was just finished up my own four-year (veterinary) medical indoctrination, I did not fully appreciate just how dark it goes until years later.

I was on birth control pills since my teenage years. This was not because I was in any way sexually promiscuous -- in fact, I was monogamous that entire time -- but because I *was* in a relationship, and didn't want babies, period. The notion of biological, intuitive pregnancy prevention never dawned on me.

Like most users, I suffered from SEVERE mood swings and depression thanks to the pill. (It is an absolute miracle that they didn't throw me on antidepressants -- bullet dodged.) This was bad enough that one prescriber put me on the "minipill," the one associated with the highest risk of blood clot. (A previous doctor at Cornell had refused, citing the fact that I had a history of scotoma, which, according to her, was a major signal for blood clot risk. My local family doctor scoffed at that, noting that I was neither overweight, nor a smoker.)

The minipill did seem to help with mood ... Right up until I threw a clot to my left lung. Because I have an extremely high pain tolerance, I walked around with said clot for ~36 hours before seeking emergency medical attention. My a miracle, because I was on neurology rotation with 16+ hour days, the urgent care center was closed by the time I got there; I almost just went home, thinking it was an orthopedic issue (the pain was localized to my left shoulder), but it was just bad enough to go to ER. Thank God I did, because the clot was serious enough to have killed a small piece of lung.

When I was first being treated, the attending medical student -- who happened to be a former vet student at the same school that I was about to graduate from -- told me that the clot was because of the pill. He said that they saw this ALL THE TIME. He also told me that none of the doctors would admit to this, because they were all paid off by pharma not to acknowledge it. I found this a little hard to believe ... But he was right.

Every since doctor who saw me, every doctor who read my chart, said, "Oh, it can't be the pill. You were on birth control pills for years before this happened. It must have been some other cause." This despite the fact that my labs consistently showed normal clotting factors (after the mandatory course of warfarin, that is).

Now I know. The pharmaceutical industry is far, FAR more evil, plain and simple, than anything most people can imagine. I should know, too -- that's my day job.

yantra's avatar

this is why the majority cannot believe the truth and continue to trust MDs. the truth is so monolithic and scary it cannot possibly be true.

Ki Consciousness's avatar

Yep.

Then you add in the fact that the monolith in question is “Quite Literally Evil Itself,” a concept that the majority have been conditioned to refuse to acknowledge, and it gets even harder to get the point across …

Gwyneth's avatar

After a few unpleasant attempts with "The Pill" many years ago, I switched to the Rhythm Method along with the knowledge of my body's scent and secretions. It worked perfectly and reliably and is a natural method any woman can learn.

AMV's avatar

When are people going to get the fact that pharmaceutical companies do not give honest information or do honest studies. It’s happened throughout history. It’s still happening and people just take drugs because they are recommended by our government alphabet agencies and our doctors follow what the government agencies say. Do drs read the studies? To patients read the studies? Do you know that Big Pharma funds a good chunk of our alphabet agencies? That’s a huge conflict of interest. Everyone just blindly trusts. Huge mistake. You’re the ones paying the price with poor outcomes while Big Pharma gets wealthy. 🤔🧐🤨This article is just one example.

NY Nanny's avatar

I am absolutely shocked that Unbekoming made no mention of the diaphragm which as far as I'm concerned is the best birth control method available.

I got pregnant when I was 19 years old and had three children by the time I was twenty-three. I did not use birth control until after the last child was born. I knew I couldn't use the pill because of the blood clot issue and I didn't trust the rhythm method even though the Catholic church pushed that for all women. I grew up with the big Irish and Italian families that were the results of mothers who wanted to be good Catholics.

Somehow I found out about the diaphragm- probably from a clinic I went to back in the 1970s and I used it successfully during all the years I could have gotten pregnant. The diaphragm has many benefits including the fact that it is not in any way permanent- just insert and remove as needed. Anyway, it worked for me.

Fast forward to the menopause years. As with many women who've had multiple births, I developed a prolapsed uterus- uncomfortable but not painful. The first thing that was suggested by the gynecologist was the "mesh surgery". That's the one that is advertised by lawyers who are looking to make a quick buck doing a medical malpractice case for all the women whose bodies were wrecked by those botched surgeries. No thanks.

I went back to a local clinic and the wonderful nurse practitioner suggested a pessary- another old fashioned device on the same theory as the diaphragm except you can leave it in for long periods of time and they come in different shapes and sizes. I have used pessaries for many years with no problems and they do an excellent job of supporting the prolapse.

When it comes to women's health- diaphragms and pessaries are Big Medicine's worst nightmare. Other than getting fitted for the devices, we don't need constant and everlasting medical intervention and expensive prescriptions that never end. I highly recommend these old fashioned remedies to any woman who needs them.

yantra's avatar

but what about the spermicidal gels and/or foams often used with diaphragms? or are they not necessary?

NY Nanny's avatar

If memory serves, and this was a LONG time ago, you could use the diaphragm without the spermicidal gel and I probably did way back then. But even if you do use the gel or cream, so what? It's temporary and local and you can just wash it away. That's the whole point of using a diaphragm in the first place- you use it as needed.

Big E's avatar

Abortion is the ultimate form of birth control, and some political persuasions are pushing it like benign candy (except for the baby of course, but for the Mom too). Idaho citizens must vote in Nov. 3 2026 election on a radical ballot initiative (Prop 1) that would allow abortion even late in the term.

We ask people to read the page and watch the video linked below before making up their minds on any abortion measure in any state:

https://boise.idgop.org/idaho-chooses-life-vote-no-on-prop-1-on-nov-3-2026/

Birch's avatar

There are two kinds of population control. Birth control. And death control. Women demand the individual choice. And men are continually working to take that choice away from us.

Big E's avatar

Please take a look at the video here: https://youtu.be/CFZDhM5Gwhk

We once believed as you do.

Sharon's avatar

I had a Copper-7 in the 1980s for a couple years. It became painful, so I had it removed. Unbeknownst to me, I had developed scar tissue in my fallopian tube and ended up having a tubal pregnancy, later. Recently, I read that the Copper-7 wasn’t advised for women who wanted to eventually have children - no one mentioned that fact to me. I still have my Copper-7 in a little box and I also have a sensitivity to copper. After the Copper-7, I used the sponge - God knows what was really in those.

yantra's avatar

right. sounds so innocuous, a sponge; here's the current definition : "The birth control sponge is a contraceptive device that is inserted into the vagina before sex to cover the cervix and release spermicide, helping to prevent pregnancy." spermicide.

Neil Pryke's avatar

US Pharma leads the world...a prospect that everyone should regard as utterly terrifying...

yantra's avatar

let's face it. anything that stops the normal operation of human reproduction is probably dangerous to individual humans and the species at large. along with all of the nefarious schemes/methods detailed here, think of spermicides - which women used to use in the 1970s and earlier. i mean spermicides! how did we not get that whatever could kill human sperm might harm mature humans and their genetic gear? women used to inject spermicidal foam into their vagina, or put spermicidal gel into a diaphragm, then insert it prior to intercourse. you could buy it in drugstores without a prescription. the last 5 letters of the word should gives us a clue . . . spermicide, homicide, infanticide, suicide, you get the drift.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

A family member forgot to remove her copper IUD within the 7 year range. She had an episode wherein she thought she was losing her mind. She lost complete control of her emotions for days, and finally took and UBER to the ER at 2am. They treated her like some addict who was simply

there for a fix. They were cold, heartless, and did precious little to figure out her issue. A day or 2 later, she was released, with no answers. They did give her an 800 number to an online counselor. This fabulous woman told her what was actually occurring and why. She said she’d heard of this happening all the time, and she actually only knew what was happening because a friend had researched high and low trying to figure out the cause of her swift and sure depression.

To make matters worse, this person had no idea she had an off brand device, which it turns out, they are more prone to cause huge issues if left in for an extended time.

It’s pathetic that they had to find this out just by happenstance— and I thank God for this counselor.

Birch's avatar

You are a man. You never faced the constant fear that you would get pregnant when you didn’t want to. You never faced the monthly relief when your period came. You never faced the choice for a tubal ligation to stop the risk of pregnancy. You never faced the risks of pregnancy or the pain of giving birth. Even knowing the risks of these devices including the pill, I’d take any one of them. I’m a woman who did. And I have no regrets.

A Bird In the Hand's avatar

Lol no mention of condoms at all? Those are much more reliable and safe than any of these methods, and they don't hurt your body.

Yourlastchance's avatar

I just don't understand the copper connection. I take 4 tablespoons of copper every day just to survive.