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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Sad what modern medicine and dentistry fail to see . 😢😡

Truthbird's avatar

They've never seen it. Few people realize how underdeveloped the mandible and the facial bones are in most contemporary people. Once you realize this, you will see it everywhere. It is not the least bit subtle. It is glaring. This degeneration begins with bottle-feeding infants, instead of breast-feeding, which requires the baby to work harder to get milk from the nipple. The worked facial muscles send signals to the bones to which they're attached, which causes them to grow stronger and larger. We're a rapidly degenerating species.

Joanna Martin's avatar

Yes, we are. However, with physicians like the author of this article, we can reverse the modern trend.

Kim Rossi's avatar

Dr Breiner is in my town!! My Dad was a "Tufts man" thanks to the GI bill. He practiced dentistry for ten years, then took the Orthodontics program, also at Tufts. Looking back, I realized he was an engineer of the teeth. And none of his patients were under 10 or 11. He used hand calculated geometry to measure the angles needed to move the teeth. I used to play with the "big plastic triangle" on his desk. He bent every wire by hand. He soldered with a telephone dial dental machine. Took and developed x-rays. He crafted every impression on a wet grinder and hand powdered and dripped retainers in his lab. The only thing he sent out for was lunch. He was adamant about not pulling teeth, which he said collapsed the smile inward. The Rossi smile was full, rounded, beautiful. We have an Orthodontic Boutique 1/4 mile from my house. Snazzy orange interior. Enough said.

A dear friend, adult, got roped into Invisalign to prevent "future movement" and ended up with jaw pain so bad she considered litigation. She got no help or relief.

eileen's avatar

I had to stop and breathe a few times as this article made me very upset at my dental procedures. I refuse to see a dentist even for just a 'cleaning'. I had orthodontic work at 24 or 25. Since then I had ringing in the ears, which I attributed to metcury in the amalgams, but I no longer have the amalgams. I developed vertigo about 20 years ago. It has since cleared, but the ringing is still there. Although there are things one can do for tinnitus, like 8-week zinc supplementation, I am not sure it will help as I think my problem may be damaged facial and/or a hypersensitive trigeminal nerve (CN VII and CN V respectively). I think along with the underdeveloped jaw are also underdeveloped foramina in the skull through which these nerves traverse making TMJ biomechanical issues more likely to injure the nerve. Bell's Palsy (CN VII) or the painful condition Trigeminal Neuralgia?

I'm wondering what's going to happen to our pets who are fed soft food (more cats than dogs since cats are more likely to be fed canned food)? Invisalign for small animals? Hmm what a profitable business for vets! When the solution may very well be feed them Raw Meaty bones (RMB).

It is interesting the article mentions Sacral Occipital Technique, whose practitioners are becoming harder to find. It works on the principle that the C0, C1 and C2 are weight bearing joints like lower back and dysfunction in one weight bearing joint leads to compensation in the other weight bearing joints, including the shoulders. The others are the hip joint itself and the mirror of C0, C1 and C2, the L5, S1 joint that affects our tailbone, known as the coccyx. However in practice, the chiropractor needed to adjust the TMJ including releasing the pterygoids (the AI didn't autocorrect, interesting) a painful process but the pain is due to chronically right muscles. They are the muscles you feel on the inside of the jaw on each side. You can release your own by massaging them with pain to tolerance pressure and I bet you will hold your cervical adjustments

Crixcyon's avatar

I used SmileDirect in early 2020 and by December was through the program. I think I paid about $1700. It was much cheaper than real braces. I was 70 at the time and wanted to finally align my crooked upper teeth. I didn't detect any real problems except occasional soreness.

Yikes...I never suspected there was so much involved in this process. I have often wondered if the plastics were harmful. I still occasionally use a retainer at night but not regularly. My teeth have stayed straight. No increasing dental problems...yet.

I think SmileDirect evolved into a new company (the name I can't recall) as they have sometimes sent me emails wanting me to order retainers. Something like getting a yearly subscription where they send a new retainer every 6 months at about $99 a pop. Add that up over 10-15 years and its nutz paying thousands for a piece of plastic that likely costs $2 to make.

Again, we slaves are always kept in the dark when it comes to anything medically related. I haven't been to a dentist in almost 4 years. Forget going to the doctor. A waste of time.

KLR's avatar

I cannot believe the timing of this article and the "Crooked teeth are not inherited" article. My 12 year old grandson is getting ready to start treatment with a doctor that does not use conventional braces. She uses devices to expand the jaw in the right places and directions, she recommends more difficult foods to eat instead of so many soft foods...it's a totally different concept. I was a dental assistant for 22 years working with generals and orthodontists. I had braces myself as a teen. Something was telling me that none of what I had been through or did for employment made sense. When my daughter talked about taking Carter to an orthodontist for his crooked teeth, I dove into what else was available. I found this doctor and we couldn't be happier with her treatment plan. I will say that these two articles stirred some questions for me to ask her before she gets started on his treatments and I really appreciate it! Thank you so much for all the truths you expose us to!

MB's avatar
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A very athletic friend had constant neck pain. After seeing orthopedic doctors to no avail, her PT suggested having her orthodontist remove her permanent retainer. Pain resolved.

(She too had done Invisalign and the permanent retainer was installed to maintain the result.)

On a related note, does anyone know what material is preferable (least toxic) for nightly retainers?

Brian McNulty's avatar

Retired dentist here - in my 40 years of practice, the orthodontists with whom I worked ALL were well-trained in the anatomy of the TMJ and the relationship between the effects of tooth movement and potential changes in the TMJ. Is it possible that there are general dentists who provide aligner therapy to patients without the necessary awareness of this? Sure. However, most orthodontists I know are aware of these connections and take care to minimize them or deal with them as they arise. During my years in practice,I had many patients who experienced TMJ pain and dysfunction. I don’t recall dizziness and vertigo as being very common symptoms.

Kim Rossi's avatar

I'll add an observation. Dentistry, like pediatrics, is becoming a pink collar neighborhood to borrow from the old phrase. It's trending to cosmetics, not restoration and preservation. Make of that what you will. https://www.discodent.com/demographics/gender

Joanna Martin's avatar

What is proper tongue posture?

What is the proper treatment for people who clench their teeth and thus damage them? Dentists say to use "mouth guard", a plastic device which prevents the wearer from clenching their teeth.

MyriamSofia's avatar

Happy to read this because I was leaning towards getting Invisilign to straighten out my teeth because I’ve had so many teeth pulled out that they’ve all shifted. I had my mercury fillings removed 45 years ago and I know all about toxic Dentistry, but I did not realize this was a problem.

Dr Linda's avatar

I have been teaching yoga for 50 years. One if the important aspect I teach is jaw misalignment and position. We focus on this during Savasana (deep relaxation).

That jaws misalignment also changes the ear canal position which affects hearing.

Lastly, I am a vocalist. I found my jaw misalignment altered my sound. Focusing on my jaws allowed me to keep my breath in the “mask”.

I noticed that I have chronic stuffiness in one of my lower sinuses. Jaw alignment opens thar sinus. It is constant work.

UNCOS From the Chicken COUP's avatar

Something not discussed here, but teeth are mirror to the bodies issue. They show someone like me when they are misplaced and where they are miss placed the chromal disfunction passed down, tooth buds are some of the early delevlopments in fetus developing. I can treat much better if teeth are left the way they are, straightning them hides the frightening truth how bad generational diets are, causing generation chromal damage that cannot be healed. Teeth tell the whole story.

A.D.'s avatar

I started Invisalign treatment as an adult in the spring of 2015, by my dentist at the time, in an effort to correct a misaligned bite that was never treated as a child, as I refused orthodontic treatment then, which would have included a palatal expander. Fast forward to September of that year: I'd received an interproximal filling between teeth nos. 2 and 3 by said dentist back in July, a botch job that ultimately had to be replaced by another dentist, on a cavity that incidentally wasn't even hinted at on x-rays from my check-up six months previous, which in hindsight I should have just left alone and tried to remineralize, as I was well familiar with the Weston Price research at that point; within a day a starting my ninth set of aligners, I started getting this 'fuzzy,' numb feeling on that side of my face, which eventually spread to the other side of my face.

Long story short: I paused my Invisalign treatment and lived as a medical mystery while I waited six months to see a specialist who had no answers; the most my holistic dentist could tell me was that he'd read accounts of numbness in the Invisalign literature, but ultimately all he could recommend was traditional braces that most likely would require tooth extraction. I stopped Invisalign treatment completely and got most of my money refunded, thankfully; I think my former dentist was afraid of a lawsuit at that point.

I still have minor issues associated with the misaligned bite that hasn't been corrected, but I refuse to have teeth extracted. I'm glad to reconfirm that expansion is still possible as an adult. I'm just not sure I have the finances to do it, or if there is even an orthodontist near me that could do the treatment.