The whole problem with this article is that the author starts off with no understanding of Vitamin D3's cofactors.
The reason D3 can be used as a rat poison is because it depletes the rats' vitamin K2 levels, which then triggers hypercalcemia. If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier. Yes, it also depletes magnesium. And if someone experiences negative effects from taking a high dose of D3 immediately, it is always due to triggering symptoms of magnesium deficiency. At very high doses that some humans take—like 100,000 to 300,000 IUs per day—it usually takes about 4 to 6 months to trigger a toxic vitamin K2 deficiency, leading to hypercalcemia. After even longer periods of high-dose D3, you eventually get induction of boron and zinc deficiencies, as well as vitamin A. These are all cofactors that D3 uses up in its processes. In fact, there is no such thing as vitamin D3 toxicity—that is just an old doctor’s tale. What you are really seeing are just various cofactor deficiencies induced by high-dose D3 consuming them. D3 itself is completely non-toxic. The author would be better off if he would spend some time reading the book "The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases—What Doctors Never Learned."
From Robert Yoho, MD
D is the most important wonder vitamin, and we have substantial backing for this.
I wrote it entire comment about this subject but I personally was taking vitamin D with K2. Experienced some of the worst muscle and joint pain of my life that mysteriously came on me about a year and a half ago starting in my right hip and then moving to my right shoulder. A friend of mine asked me if I was taking anything and I told him I was taking three and K2 and after looking at the side effects for the active ingredient in D3 he noticed that muscle and joint pain was listed. After a week of stopping supplementation the pain started going away but it took a full six months before it was mostly gone. I still have lingering effects a year later. I find endless comments from people who think they're super smart listing studies instead of real world observations. How many people could be suffering from the side effects of D3 and have no idea what it is because all the smart people keep posting studies and insisting there's nothing wrong with it?
I have been taking 12,000 IU/day of D3 to get a blood level of 70 ng/ml, a very healthy level supported But you need the cofactors magnesium and vitamin k2-mk7. Before taking any supplement one needs to do a lot of research. How much you put in your mouth is not important, the blood level is and one should always get tested before and after supplementation is started.
Most likely you are deficient and need D3 but done with testing and adequate cofactors.
We have just come to 'we're good enough' and will be getting rid of some vitamins and supplements. We will live normally but as of today. Sometimes we will eat processed foods. We think prayer is a real thing, not some feel good mantra. We think being outside is good for many reasons. There are obvious benefits to eating outside. Crumbs disappear in the grass. I believe in my God-given immune system. Everything was done from birth to destroy mine. Slowly, a comeback is in the works. That has a lot to do with our thoughts and feelings. So, the goal is kis, and let's leave off the other s since nobody here comes under that label.
I work in my yard with shorts and flip-flops. My vitamin D levels are fine. I'm not taking rat poison from China. I was able to take D3 for several years until it nearly destroyed my life. I hope you are not headed to the same place. If so remember what happened to me.
No problem if you monitor your blood levels of calcifidiol and take magnesium and K2-MK7. 40+ years of research at UCSD supports what I do. I was part of their 40+ year study for many years.
It is almost impossible to OD on D3!
I am 78, and I have the physical and mental abilities of a 30 year old. Running miles at 115°F is no problem for me. But your D3 requirements are likely much different than mine. You must get your blood levels checked! 12,000 IU/day is the right number for me. If you are not athletic, UCSD research shows you likely need about 5,000 IU/day, but need a blood test to know for sure. If your blood level is low you are at risk for many cancers and other sicknesses. Most people in the US have low levels.
My blood level is 70 ng/ml which is perfect! Most pure around 20. My first test at UCSD years ago was 27, too low. At that time I spent hours in the sun every day! After a few months I was able to get it to the 60 ng/ml level, a minimum acceptable level to me.
I am an engineer but have been reading and doing medical research now for about 55 years! At this point I have optimized my supplement intake.
We had a lecture during the Covid plandemic in which Dr. Steven Malthouse made it quite clear- you cannot predict a patient's Vitamin D level, you must measure it. (This was after Vit D assay was delisted as a paid item under the provincial "health" monopoly.)
So I calibrated myself. 128 umolar [51 ng/ml] on 4000 IU daily from Oct. to May 1; 132 umolar [53 ng/ml] after taking an hour or so on the beach with a swim in the afternoon whenever the temperature was above 20C May-Sept. (Convenient as I was disemployed after declining my clot-shot.)
I was dismayed to realize that cholecalciferol is a pro-hormone.
Looking at the structures I should have seen this immediately.
I started looking at Vit D after Dr. Ryan Cole, early in the plandemic, made it clear that levels above 50 ng/ml were protective against covid.
Onward and backward. Our metabolic bone disease lectures were some of the most boring and poorly presented in the late 1970's. Then the bisphopsphonates and DEXA for "osteoporosis" and "osteopenia" became a promotion from the 1990's. I do not ever recall studies comparing Vit. D /Calcium with the drugs , which have some interesting side effects.
So then I began to understand that the Vitamin K2 cofactor was important; I take it with the 4000 units through the fall and winter, but not in summer.
There was some interesting research reported early in the plandemic using Vit D on hospitalised patients. One study used up to 300,000 units infused. I suspect that some of the benefit was derived from metabolic conversion to cortisol.
Without monitoring I take a zinc supplement a couple times per week and a Mg/Ca supplement once or twice weekly.
Tons of research show the opposite. Look at the research over decades at UC San Diego. I was in their studies many years. Quoting single or a few studies is not good since my experience shows 80-90% of studies are not worth the paper they are written on. One can show anything one wants in a study. On the other hand UCSD is a reliable source of data. I am 79 and take many supplements, including 12,000 IU of D3 per day. So far no problems associated with aging and still living like I am 25.
You do you. If it's working for you, keep going. I stand by the research I've found and my own personal experience as set forth in the substack post above. Spent some time in the sun yesterday while the rain held off. If felt really good.
I'm going off of it and so is my mom. I have also experienced increased pain since using it from about 2020 on. I am prayerful it will go away because nothing else has worked and I'm too young for this.
You may have other nutrient deficiencies that the D3 is exposing. Best to correct those before cutting out D3 which raises your risks of many other diseases. See https://grassrootshealth.net from UCSD, 40 years of D research on tens of thousands of people!
I have take it for years, never had any pain. The research is pretty decisive. But you do you. I would point out that everyone has a different metabolism. Dosage is important. The problem with disecting these topics on the internet is that it filters for individuals who have bad experiences. Also, i found no evidence that corroberates the description of the manufacture process described here. My D3 was made in the US using UV light to extract the vitamin from lanolin. No horrible industrialized extraction using chemicals. But, as i said, you do you.
UV doesn't extract D3 from lanolin. The UVB converts ergosterol in lanolin to D3. After that, some solvent is used to extract the D3. Chloroform is one such solvent. Essentially none of the solvent remains after the extraction process so the scary sounding organic solvent should not be used to frighten people with statements such as "sheep grease and chloroform".
Can you share what brand this is? I’m currently supplementing D3 and K2 and fall into the severe deficiency category and would love to look into the one you mentioned.
I heard a natural health doctor talk about her elderly dad who was severely deficient and vitamin D. Despite supplementing heavily, his vitamin D levels would not raise high enough. So she sent him to a tanning bed! She even said this is highly frowned upon by the medical community, but she had him start with only five minutes and increased to only 15 minutes Per visit, I believe. She said in a short time, his vitamin D was at the levels that needed to be, and he felt great. I could tell she felt very conflicted about recommending that given all of that research that supposedly shows that tanning beds lead to skin cancer, but she said, at least in his case, and given his elderly age, That this was the only thing that would raise the vitamin D and was worth the potential risks. And you said he ended up without any skin issues. So I wonder if this falls into the category of tanning bed risks and the sources of skin cancer also being mislabeled or manipulated?
Look up the Jimmy Dore show on YouTube. He has a segment on dermatology / skin cancer. The dermatologist messaging is avoid the sun, it causes melanoma. But studies show it doesn’t. Sun exposure appears to reduce the incidences of melanoma.
The dermatologist advice increases incidences of melanoma and decreases the non-deadly skin cancers.
I recently started a weekly low-dose of tanning bed UV and I at least look better, I have very pale skin in the winter.
I am sailing through this winter (never get colds anymore and I have attributed that to Vitamin D3 AND keeping my indoor environment at proper humidity)
You should contact the researchers at UC San Diego. I am sure they would be interested in your case and may be able to shed some light on your condition. They should have encountered something similar in the last 40 years of their research. The consumer facing website for them is https://grassrootshealth.net .
Unpopular Autist - I also got hypercalcemia symptoms from taking D3/K2. Muscle cramps, heart palpitations, anxiety, eye twitches. It took about a year for me to heal and magnesium was key in the healing process, as was natto.
It took me about 6 months for 90% of the pain to go away. It's been a year now and I barely feel it but I've never experienced anything like that pain before. It was 24 hours a day. And what's strange is that it started in my right hip, then move to my right shoulder and my right hip stopped hurting, then back to my right shoulder. It felt almost like it was in The Joint deep inside. I was wondering if I had bone cancer. It's only because my friend asked me what I was taking that I found a solution. I can only imagine if I went to a standard doctor how much time and money it would have taken to figure out what was wrong with me more than likely I would be on painkillers and a handful of pharmaceuticals everyday. This is what's so frustrating reading these comments by these know-it-all doctors here. It seems that they have a Hustle and that is pharmaceuticals, vaccines and procedures. Their entire business depends on them. Anything that can upset that business would destroy them being able to pay for their mortgage, car notes and private school for their kids so they become sociopathic toward Solutions and the truth and are only worried about protecting the status quo.
I am a female. Almost 60. I never get sick but decided to finally go to a doctor back in March just to check things. My D3 levels were low. They advised me to take 2000 units a day. I have developed pain in my right shoulder and my left knee. I didn't think any thing of it other than it was odd. Now Im starting to think maybe its the D3. Im done taking it. And I stopped going to that doctor. It seemed like they wanted to find something wrong so they could push pills. There is longevity on both sides of my family. I'll take my chances.
You must be a PR guy for Big Pharma®...this plays into their scam perfectly. Look behind the supplement labels and guess who you find...yup, you guessed right...now double-check ;)
There may be something to this. I was taking 10K IU of D3 a day (with no decernable I'll effects) & decided to do 25K once a week. The next morning my right hip was the way you described yours. I didn't take anymore D3. The hip went back to normal after 2 days. As of now, I'm ceasing my dose(s) of D3 unless I see unequivocal evidence of its benefit.
Even a simple Google search will tell us that 15 to 20 minutes of sunlight under optimal conditions can produce 10,000 IU's of vitamin D3. Why not just get sunlight instead of using these synthetic chemicals of dubious origin? The hustle never stops for these science believers. Why would they not recommend you just go get more sunlight without putting on toxic sunscreen? What could possibly go wrong? What if you went out and did some gardening for 30 minutes? I just don't understand what motivates scientism believers. It's never the toxic chemicals and the solution is never healthy living.
In the upper latitudes, you get ZERO vit D3 synthesis from Oct to March no matter how much time you spend in the sun. I think we are all looking for health optimization & the best ways on doing that. Some supplementation along with lifestyle changes may, at times, be a valuable tool in doing that.
You'll also find ppl in those very northern lats have a higher propensity of certain diseases. Not sure if humans were supposed to live in areas such as that.
The key for folks living far from the poles is acting in ways that honor their ancestors and allow fat metabolism to respond appropriately to the local outdoor seasonal environment. Which basically means, reasonable cold exposure and burning fat to release the D!
I really wanted off the synthetic D3 as well, and for months did the sunshine thing. Unfortunately, my 25OH levels were too low, Had to return to the sheep greese.
Interesting. Did you ever have blood work done in that time period? Was your calcium elrvated at all? My calcium fluctuates to borderline high, which concerns me about taking D3, even with K2. My D,125 levels are higher than my D,25 which I've read can be a concern. I'm conflicted and confused.
I just stopped taking the supplements and got more sunlight. I think many of our issues are due to our diets and US unintentionally poisoning ourselves with toxic chemicals in our detergents, suntan oil, processed foods etc. Not to mention whatever is in the air and water that the government is always meddling with.
There is a substack writer who wrote about her husband dying after taking vitamin D without K2. They just didn't know it was necessary to take that too.
A random "dude" on the internet exclaims: "this article is bullcrap" (with ZERO evidence) and then actually questions whether or not his exclamation settled the debate, or I if was just being sarcastic. Too funny! Funnier still is the "proof" of your exclamation is a Dr. Berg video. Ever heard the quote that starts: Better to remain silent....?
NOBODY is reading this whole thing! Good lord. And most people know that you take vitamin D(3) with K2, and magnesium. The K2 directs the D3 to your bones and the magnesium keeps it there.
The author, and my doctor who said “there is no known benefit to taking K2 with D3.” A quick google search tells you otherwise. And this is why trust in the medical establishment is eroding.
and this: Vitamin D is a fascinating compound because while essential for human health, it's also quite challenging to isolate and observe in its purely natural state.
Here's why obtaining a photograph of isolated, natural vitamin D (not synthetic) under a microscope is difficult:
Lipophilic and Low Concentration: Vitamin D is fat-soluble and exists in very low concentrations within biological samples (like fish, mushrooms, or blood). This makes extraction and purification difficult.
Unstable in Isolation: Vitamin D, when extracted from its natural matrix and exposed to air, light, and heat, can be unstable and prone to degradation. It's sensitive to light and oxidation, and can undergo a reversible isomerization to previtamin D3, according to ChemicalBook.
Presence of Similar Metabolites: Biological samples contain various vitamin D metabolites and other compounds with similar chemical properties, making it hard to isolate pure vitamin D.
Synthetic Production and Research Focus: Synthetic vitamin D, particularly D3, is readily available and widely used in supplements and food fortification. Much of the research and imaging available likely focuses on these more accessible synthetic forms.
In essence, while vitamin D has been isolated and identified, the instability and difficulty in obtaining it in a pristine, naturally-derived form make microscope images of "natural" isolated vitamin D less common than those of its synthetic counterparts. The readily available synthetic form is often the focus of research and imaging due to its easier accessibility and stability for controlled experiments.
"If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier."
Have you (speaking to the original author) tested this or is it idle speculation?
The rest of this is biochemistry fables of the sort that were already addressed in the article: i.e., we have only the most roundabout and questionable evidence that any of these substances occur in nature in the first place, much less that they do anything helpful in the body.
And just to make life even more exciting and mysterious, we also need to consider the wonderful effects of Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNI"S) that truly turn life into an n=1 experience. Really enjoyed the topic and discussion. I work in surgery, and I can say with very high confidence that when we test, treat and correct for a "deficiency" (<12ng/dL), we reliably observe clinically relevant improvement in at least 1 out of 6 treated.
I am sure, big Pharma loves your discussion about vitamin D being a poison. If I give my dog chocolate, he will die. If I drink too much water, I will die lifestyle issues and lack of exposure to sunlight in the northern temperature zones and the southern temperate zones reduces the bodies required amount of vitamin D for maintaining good health. Studies in the 1930s in the 1940s in the USA demonstrated the safety of vitamin D for consumption.. It is 10 times safer than what it’s being expressed. The VA ran a study in the USA Midwest area that demonstrated that they reduced veterans health issues by 50% by providing them with increased levels of vitamin D.. They ignore the studies because it doesn’t grow the bureaucracy that they are managing. Harvard ran a vital study and never measured blood value of vitamin D to determine its true contribution to good health, and the study was purposely designed to discredit the true value of vitamin D.. for those that are interested in the true value of vitamin D I recommend very highly www.vitamindwiki.com that documents, the true value of vitamin D in maintaining good health. Many of the prescription drugs that are consumed chronically by humans that are pushed by the drug trade deplete key nutrients in the body and are they causes of ill health. The one that I am aware of that is ignored by medicine is a proton pump inhibitors chronic consumption destroys vitamin D, which is essential for good health, and the average American carries about half of the blood value of what is required to stay healthy and is demonstrated by the research at vitamin D wiki. I will continue to take 5000. IU’s vitamin D daily and maintain a blood value of a round 70 ng’s. There is sufficient evidence that 80% of the breast cancer cases would not exist if every woman had a blood value over 50 ng’s. Pushing the fear that vitamin D is a poison benefits our bloated healthcare system in the USA.. the endocrinologist in the USA understand the true value of vitamin D and their viewpoint is ignored by big medicine because it again doesn’t grow our bloated healthcare system.
The following quote is from your comment. How do we know that “the average American carries about half of the blood value of what is required to stay healthy” when real vitamin D in a human has never been isolated?
As an essential nutrient, humans benefit from the protection natural vitamin D offers. But, humans don’t require synthetic vitamin D, and that is the value we are measuring in our labs, 25(OH)D.
I disagree with your conclusion “Pushing the fear that vitamin D is a poison benefits our bloated healthcare system in the USA”. The author is providing caution, not fear, and if critically thinking about this issue is doing anything, it’s siphoning the healthcare system in the USA.
First. Millions of medical students including myself were lied to that more than 1000 iu’s of vitamin D taken daily was poisonous. Just like they lied about Ivermectin. The studies which are on www.vitamindwiki.com from the 1940’s indicated that more than 1000iu’s/KG was the max. That is 70 times more than what you and I believed was true. Why did they dropped the KG in the medical literature. That is why I object to the word “paradox”. Which is equating the two issues.
Second, in 2008 my wife and I both had Vitamin D blood draws and hers came out horribly deficient and she had been battling lymphoma successfully for 9 years because of the nutritional program I had her on that the oncologist didn’t want to hear about. It included Vitamin D. At that time I didn’t know how important it was. My blood value was 50 ng’s. Why the difference? She was a blue eyed beautiful blonde and was told to stay out of the sun since childhood because she was more susceptible to sun stroke. I in turn played golf year round and never used sunscreen. We were together for almost 50 years and traveled together , ate the same food together, but she had a severe nutrient deficiency of Vitamin D. So, what was the endocrinologist measuring if it wasn’t the blood value of D?
In 2011, now called NAM produced a Vitamin D study that understates the true value of Vitamin D. It doesn’t recognize the hormonal role of D. It only recognizes that for bone health you need 20 ng’s as being normal. NIH in turn has stated to this day that that study is boiler plate!
Dr. Manson of Harvard ran a 4 year study on D but never measured the blood value of D to determine correlation.
I have meet and talked to the astute researchers who know the true valuer of D. Dr. Garland told me 15 years ago, that he went to DC to explain his D research and they were not interested. It has not changed. Dr. Matthews has saved many lives in his treatment of brain trauma by including D. He also has improve the brain health of poor black children in rural Mississippi by boosting D. He has been instrumental in other efforts too, but is ignored. Ask your self why?
Converting cholesterol to D requires a healthy kidney as well as a healthy liver.
Many drugs including acetaminophen interfere . When a physician does write a RX for D he writes for Vitamin D2 which is 50,000 iu’s of poorly metabolized form. Ask your self why? Check out what grassrootshealth has published as well as the store house of studies on vitamindwiki. The truth needs to be known. ADA leads the charge to discredit D. Ask yourself why? Ask yourself why J & J deep sixth Cue which had a simple blood test for D.
Lifestyle issues, prescription drugs, eggs without D, over use of sunscreen and many other factors have driven down the average blood value of D to sub optimal levels.
We now embrace this as normal. They have to give chickens in tin barns D so
they don’t break their legs. Our bloated sickcare system just keeps growing!
I’m not giving you advice whether to take vitamin d or not, that’s your choice, I’m pointing out that the “evidence” is weak. when I was in diatetics school, they told us the same thing about 1000 IU. Yet, “No traditional culture needed sheep's wool dissolved in chloroform and irradiated to be healthy.”
Our ancestors didn’t supplement vitamin d. So like the author concluded, what did our ancestors do that we have stopped doing? Or what toxic elements have we added that may be causing dysregulation.
Correct, sun became the enemy in the 70s and things have been going downhill ever since. I started taking Vit D a few years ago (a non-believer).....needless to say, I am one now. Went from being sick 3-4x a year to being sick once every 3-4 years and of course I am increasing with age....
I will be 70 this year, I do not get colds in winter (proper humidification of my indoor environment and possibly my Vit D supplementation believed to be factors). I KNOW the humidification helps my mucous membranes AND my guitars :o )
Our ancestors - prior to the 19th century - as a rule didn't enthusiastically spray lead-arsenate all over their farmland permanently poisoning their soil getting arsenic and lead into the food supply. Since that was pesticide #1 from the mid 19th century to 1950 or so, 100% of nutrition and "germ theory" research of the 1850s-1950's has to be junked as it failed to control for "people enthusiastically consuming comically toxic substances that they thought were harmless."
people have no idea how big the planet is, that is why they fall for that baloney
Just like freaking out over the release of radioactive water from Fukushima..... the oceans are HUGE and ICY COLD... if you ever see a nuclear molecule from Fukushima it will be a miracle
Dietitians are thoroughly and utterly propagandized into believing nonsense...HFLC is anathema to them, despite the obvious catastrophe high carb diet has caused.
I think the key takeaway from this article is that your wife’s penchant to cover up like an Inuit woman is irrelevant to her “vitamin D” levels. Her body, your body, my body will not produce cholecalciferol by sun exposure. The only way you will get it in your body is by putting it there. And to say someone is deficient is pretty fucking arbitrary and quite frankly absurd.
I agree with you that big pharma will always squash cheap natural remedies, by the way. I just don’t think this is one of them.
I am skeptical of whatever you say, simply on the basis that your grammar is atrocious. That is indicative of several possibilities, some of which may point to a distinct lack of education...
I know! My wife was blue eyed blonde, and stayed out of the sun from childhood on because of the fear of sun stroke. Consequently, she acquired lymphoma and had a blood value that was ab normal and only nine ng’s, . Maybe we’ll get smart one of these days and start testing for vitamin D on a regular basis.
Go to www.vitamindwiki.com a learn . Lie was telling millions of pharmacist and physicians for over 50 years that more than 1000 IU’s of vitamin D daily is poisonous. It was actually 1000 IU’s per kilogram of body weight. That was the original research so it’s about 22 times more safe than what we have been told.
Are you going to go to college and learn organic chemistry? I’m not a “trust the experts” guy, but neither you nor this author have the knowledge necessary to make heads or tails of this subject. You don’t need to “trust the experts”, but you do need to be a chemist.
You do not need to be a chemist to understand we have all been a target of Big Pharma the last few years. Follow paralegal Katherine Watt to know how the law has been rigged to protect vax mfgrs and Big Pharma. Then follow Sasha Latypova, former testing lab executive. She breaks down the bioweapon.
The point is, don't trust a PHD just because he has a PHD. Figure out the intentions of the PHDs funders.
As holistic RN with my own business, I nearly deflected from listening to this. In total, a lot of this made sense. One point to consider the use of supplementing with fulvic and humic minerals. I am a BEAM Mineral affiliate, and they are harvested from layers 10-15 ft below earth's surface, are organic, not Lab produced, are ionic, and are complete and paired with their associated appropriate minerals that our cranial nerves need a balance of. They were also able to re-establish plant growth at Fukushima. Fields sprayed half with minerals were always preferred by sheep herds. Yes, back to "the garden", or what God created and intended for us. And yes, glyphosate is killing us by a thousand cuts. And last, Dr. Mercola proclaimed to have excessively high Vit D levels. Read of his recent mental health issues the other day....hhmmm.
Followed Mercola for years, learned a lot but when he started heading for the spiritualistic ditch big-time I put on the brakes. Began noticing that he would find a study "validating" a new, expensive supplement which-conveniently enough-he carried in his store and jump on the bandwagon. He finally lost me permanently with the bull crap about how more than 25 grams of fructose per day, regardless of the source, was highly detrimental. To his credit, I see that he has backed waaaay off that ledge, but he is 3 years younger than I am and looks 10 years older so whatever he's doing diet and supplement wise sure as hell ain't the fountain of youth...and that recent apparent mental health issue isn't a real good look, either.
Natural, free vitamin D via direct sunlight without sunscreen for at least 20 minutes daily is highly beneficial. It’s why they’re dimming the sunlight under the guise of climate change.
I drove a convertible for a decade with the top down about 75% of the time in the sun as a daily driver and I had vitamin d deficiency? That explains the test for me and what might be happening
If synthetic Vit D is stored in body fat, then what good is a blood test?
And, if Vit D accumulates in body fat, what happens when a long-time Vit D supplementer fasts? Is a large dose of Vit D released into the blood stream/organs?
I believe they are not the same. But D in fish oils is another form of D. Synthetic D is used for rat poison in doses that cause rats calcium loads that kill them. D however in correct doses is beneficial for humans. But in to high of dosage will cause humans calcium problems too.
Too little sunshine with no D vitamins or things like cod liver oil will result in D deficiency.
I have never heard of anyone dying from taking synthetic D in recommend doses. The LD 50 is pretty high for D vitamins.
D is an essential vitamin, and D deficiency leads to many human health problems.
If you avoid the sun, and detest cod liver oil, better take some D vitamins.
What is the relationship between D in fish oil and synthetic D aka rat poison aka Cholecalciferol?
Maybe instead of tossing the Vitamin D word around loosely we start with the whole point of this article called: "The Vitamin D Paradox: What They Don't Tell You About Cholecalciferol". Paradox is the point. Does it help some by causing a challenge to the system?
Do you personally know someone harmed by synthetic vitamin D? Ever hear of it?
Apple seeds have minute amounts of cyanide in them, but eating the seeds has benefits.
I don't buy the premise of the article. I have taken vitamin D supplements myself and have had zero ill effects. I have managed to get my tested D level up to 90 ng/ml. I never get sick and have normal calcium levels. The author for some reason wants to spread fear about synthetic vitamin D.
I also know that no one with vitamin D levels above 50 ng/ml presented to the emergency room with COVID symptoms. Some don't get there without supplementation. And some fear cancer from too much sun. They put sunblock on which causes skin cancer in some people.
Have you ever taken a D supplement? Have you ever gotten sick from it?
There was an article floating around the medical community a nurse practitioner sent to me when COVID hit the scene stating that upping your D level would not prevent or have an effect on COVID. This was a lie. COVID was just rebranded flu aimed at ramping up fear to get you to take the deadly mRNA vaccines. If your D level is high enough you don't get COVID symptoms, or the seasonal flu. So I dispute the article's premise, and it won't change my behavior. You do what you want with the misinformation.
yeah, but "COVID" symptoms are bullshit... they are "flu" symptoms
COVID testing is based on PCR "testing" which is not a test, it is a process for creating a specific molecular sequence... read the CREATOR OF THE PCR TEST on the subject, he was very adamant that PCR is not a "diagnostic" test for anything.. and he was sure that it WOULD be used as such
"Have you ever taken a D supplement? Have you ever gotten sick from it?"
Yes
I am now since the last 5 years of suplementing about 8000 ui with D my calcium scan just showed up as alarming at 410 score which is wild. It was not true from the last scan from 8 years ago. Good news is it not cloging anything but its all over the place with calcium all over the place.
You say you have had no ill effect, was that head in the sand or did you actively take Coronary calcium scan? Before and after?
I have read other articles like this one. I understand the calcium risk of D supplements. I know the mechanism of rat poison from vitamin D. The level of D in the blood of a human that becomes dangerous for humans is far higher than what can be attained following the dosage on the supplement's label. Even small dosages of cyanide has benefits, where too high a dose is deadly. There are small amounts of cyanide in apple seeds, I always eat the seeds in my apples.
When COVID came on the scene a physician's assistant sent me an article going around his circles claiming D would not help prevent COVID. We now know COVID was rebranded seasonal flu, which is not something you get if you have a tested D level above 50 ng/ml. Pay no attention to PCR tests. They tell the system what the system wants it to tell them.
Your propaganda is similar to other anti-health propaganda I have seen elsewhere. D, zinc and a zinc ionophore are keys to good health. Get your D from the sun. If you live in a northern climate zone, have your D level tested regularly and strive to get it in the range of 50 to 100 ng/ml. Take zinc and a zinc ionophore. Stay healthy.
One more thing, viruses have never been proven to exist. Fear can be deadly if it gets you to make the wrong choices, like taking a vaccine.
"We now know COVID was rebranded seasonal flu, which is not something you get if you have a tested D level above 50 ng/ml. Pay no attention to PCR tests. They tell the system what the system wants it to tell them."
This is probably the best thing I've ever read on substack. You write with style and panache. I'm SUPER impressed. Thank you for this critical information.
I don't see how this is supposed to be responsive to the article. You're referring to studies without linking them and just insinuating circularly that Big Pharma doesn't like "vitamin" D as if that's some kind of proof of its utility. They also don't like horrific toxins like Ivermectin but I won't be touching that with a ten-foot pole. They don't like anything they can't patent, whether it is good or bad for health.
If Ivermectin is such a horrific toxin, then why is Dr. William Makis, out of Canada, having so much success with it in his cancer tx. protocol? He's recommending 1 mg. Ivermectin, 1,100-1,200 mg of Fenbendazole, and 100 mg. of CBD daily. Supposedly, people with Stage 4 cancers are seeing significant turnarounds in their health status. Wondering if you're aware of Dr. Makis and his protocols? Genuinely curious.
The idea that cancer is something to be killed is a strange notion considering the body provides blood vessels to maintain tumors.
Makis is working within the matrix of preconceived notions from the medical establishment and just taking away the worst drugs Big Pharma has to offer and yes people will often do better on Little Pharma than big, but the whole paradigm is upside down.
"because of" is where your off. I'd say it's more likely because of a sedentary indoor lifestyle. That's why supplementing vitamin D doesn't reverse most of the problems it's associated with...because it's simply a confounder.
If I were a scammer, I'd be trying to sell people vitamin D supplements for kickbacks
you are correct... if you are a fat, morbidly obese blob who eats junk food all day, and / or smokes cigarettes and/ or regulary consumes alcohol, and and and....... Vitamin D will not fix your problems.
If you are skinny, eat whole foods, don't smoke/drink… vitamin D supplements will still have no impact on many of the conditions that Vitamin D deficiency is associated with
I greatly appreciate this piece. One thing the Greatest Generation did was consume a significant amount of LARD. Look up the Vitamin D availablity of Lard. ... Again the sentiment that is a whole host of things not one, is clearly the message.
Good on ya. We don't eat much meat but when we do it's only organic raised. Same with fruit and Vege. I wonder just how many heath problems arise out of non organic food
Proctor and gamble, biggest producer of seed oils, paid the American heart association in the early 60s $20million dollars to say saturated fats are bad, seed oils are good
I think your comment makes MUCH sense! YES, and yes, yes, yes. And SALT.
I'm interested in nutrition and I pay attention, no big letters after my name, at least not letters to do with these topics... I'm simply not stupid, and I read about health issues.
What we've seen over the past century is a HUGE drop in health/well-being, physically AND otherwise, while our diet advice from "experts" has been radically bizarre, in comparison with what clearly worked for most of the recorded history of how/what we eat, and one of the WORST things seems to me to be the idea that fat and salt should be extremely curbed... Looks like a real money-maker, tho!!! smdh
Vitamin D content of lard (and pig skin and other pork products) depends on the pig’s sun exposure. Animals raised in warehouses are not the same. Look for pasture raised (or silvacultured) when possible.
Lard and Tallow. Both very beneficial. The Weston A. Price Foundation discusses these traditional foods. They also promote cod liver oil and were involved in a big scandal around it years ago. The fact that people were consuming large amounts of rancid cod liver oil, and getting sick. They still promote it though for vit. D. Just don't consume it in large amounts. I prefer not to consume rancid oils, so I stay away from cod liver oil and Omega 3's. No one knows if the oil is rancid or not. The longer it sits on the shelf, the more likely it is to be rancid. How does one know if oil isn't already rancid before being packaged and sold? All good questions.
Try something likely to be safe but also likely to be potent. Expect reactions as well as results. Don't be prescriptive (like a doctor!) about supplements and be relieved when you can do without a supplement.
Disease is likely detox, so toxicity is the likely cause.
Persistent conditions are highly individual and you won't get the answer from someone plugging DMSO or herbs or borax or the latest natural whatever, no matter how beneficial such things can be. Take charge, not because you are competent but because there is nobody else to take charge.
Totally . After decades spent with people detoxing .. I still find it funny they all consider different things to be 'tox'. Eventually I stopped detoxing and ate all the things i was told were toxic like meat and dairy and even wine ... I recovered my health at that point. Duh.
Basically health is enigmatic and a change is often as good as a rest. Ive seen people healed by veganism and people healed by carnivore diets .. the whole thing comes down to working out where you are *at... tho mainly that will come down to what we can afford.
Indeed, so many dietary prescriptions are too exotic and/or too expensive. Junk and non-foods really are a no-no at my age. I eat actual food only and allow appetite the rest of the choices. There are plenty of choices.
Yup! That’s cos we are fortunate tho .. for much of the world this healthy choice isnt possible… so the question is whether to make fake food or no food .. Govts have discussed banning sugar and junkfood .. but that means fewer people fed . The sugar and grain lobbies are quite powerful , cos of all those people they suboptimally feed !. It’s all rather tricky.
Here's the thing. I live in the Australian bush and, since I'm happy to consume carbs like most other nutrients, I buy ordinary wheat meant for stock, grind it up, slow-rise a loose, unkneaded dough with less yeast and more time, cook it up Baltic Bakery style, then freeze what I can't eat within the week. Very little trouble or work. It's not organic, not sourdough, not luxe...but it's actual food and the cost is negligible.
I see what busy people are buying for their families and I know it can be better without costing more. It's so hard for them to make the changes with so many fake and real pressures on families now...but it doesn't hurt to suggest things that are a) appealing b) cheap c) easy.
Oh well done. Sourdough is very easy , and soda bread .. its worth experimenting :) . The glyphosate on most grains can be a real worry tho. Ive been unable to eat wheat for years sadly, unless its sourdough and organic and well made :( .. so just dont overdo it you hear ! :) :)
Sadly, the website for the Baltic Bakery bread has expired, as I just found out.
But here's what you do. Take your flour and make a sloppy dough, not wet but too sloppy for kneading. Just mix with a SMALL amount of yeast and let it rise for hours till it is really active. Go slowwww. When it's well and truly pumping, smash it down and put it in your greased pot. Let it rise again (it won't be slow for this second rise, but go as slow as you can so those little yeasties can eat up whatever they eat).
The last trick: when baking in your hottest oven, cover the pot for twenty plus minutes, then uncover it for the next twenty or so, till looking nice and brown and all that.
That's it. Lots of time but very little effort. It doesn't make a bread like any other, it's just bread and good for eating.
It's not tricky at all, really. There is one thing that if we eliminate it from our diets and our lives, we will surely improve and flourish: Govt.
^_^
Just had to bring a little political POKE into the conversation, b/c as long as there are huge companies that benefit from poisoning us, whether it be physical, psychological, emotional, what have you, there will be fuckery.
Period.
We must learn that govt. is only required because govt. tells us it is.
We must learn that WE, the Human Race, are/is intrinsically GOOD, and that by far, the vast majority of us are wanting to live in peace and cooperation. We don't need permission to do this. We simply Do Not Comply with intrusive, coercive, and unfair "laws" and other forms of power play.
When we realize that we will be FINE without any overlording entity stealing our wealth, demanding our obedience to their self-serving domination, and telling us we are barely able to take care of ourselves without THEM ruling over us, we can move into a new paradigm of FREEDOM. The real thing.
If the U.S. government subsidized organic, regenerative farmers like they subsidize the CAFOs, GMOs, & huge pesticide-saturating farmers, then most Americans could afford to eat healthy organic, non-GMO, regenerative food like their ancestors could before Big Ag. took over our food industry.
If we stop looking to criminals in govt to solve our problems that THEY cause, and just dump the lot of them, and realize that we will do just FINE all by ourselves, when we stop letting them steal our wages via taxes, and all the other ways they steal from us... pretending that we simply can't take care of ourselves as any adults would do, then we will find our lives getting MUCH better, fairly quickly!
We don't need permission to take care of ourselves. That's how people did for a long long time, even until very recently, until GOVT's came along and killed them... They HAD to be wiped out, lest WE ALL DISCOVER how happy they were!!!
I know mainly about the UK and europe … so perhaps things are different in the US… but you would have to retain your relatively low population density.
if I can correct you .. if they *had done this in the past. At this point the conversion will take ages .. and the crop yields will be lower in the short term so there will be a deficit in the near future… besides which we have pushed wildlife to its limits so we do need to claw back about 1/3 of the land for nature. A combo of restoring nature and restoring soil will take a while and we cant guarantee anything like the same yields. In places where they rapidly converted to organic there was starvation in the following years.. 30 years ago I used to say we could feed most people with integrated organic farming, but there’s a lot more people and pressures on land now so I’m far less sure of that.
You may be right about the transitioning process in some areas, and it's not likely feasible in desert areas. But, it definitely could be done in North America," without deficit in the near future", as we have an abundance of productive land. It has been & continues to be mismanaged by the perverse incentives of our government. It's not sustainable. Regenerative farming is.
Regenerative agriculture is good for us AND for grazing herds. There are ways to grow foods, and CERTAIN foods, and all sorts of things that we are not "allowed" to know about, because govt doesn't want us to get rid of it. But it's really better for everybody if we do get rid of it, as it is really fucking up our lives. Why should only a small percentage of Humanity live well, and be healthy, and so forth, when it is exactly that percentage that is brutalizing everyone else, and taking all the wealth? Let us take a moment to ponder this... Okay, time for a New Paradigm!! ^_^
The body absolutely does not produce Cholecalciferol in response to exposure to day light.
Cholecalciferol is a synthetic substance created via a lab process.
The body actually produces multiple hormones in response to daylight which are both water and fat soluble, stored within, and transported around, the body as required.
So called "Vitamin D" is therefore not a vitamin by definition because it is produced by the body.
There is no "test" for "Vitamin D". Testing for the presence of any one of those hormones as they are being transported around the body tells you nothing about the levels of these hormones that exist within the body.
The lab parameters (which define what's considered high, normal, and low) for the fake test are also moved at the whim of the so called food and nutrition gatekeepers. It's a smoke-and-mirrors testing process put in place simply to support the sales of an unrelated substance, namely Cholecalciferol.
This story is far more complex than just the story of Cholecalciferol.
Are you seriously comparing the impact of one large single dose versus spreading out the dose over 9 years? I imagine if you add up the consumption of ANY item (salt, magnesium, even water) over 9 years versus taking that amount in one day, that would kill you also.
'No traditional culture needed sheep's wool dissolved in chloroform and irradiated to be healthy' ..well no, cos they absorbed the lanolin through their skin. Even supposed vegan tribes were drenched in lanolin. Topical vit d creams are reputedly the best way to take it ??
I think over washing is our main problem. Natural skin oils protected us.
Vit D was always known to be the most toxic supplement and was warned against for decades .. D2 is far worse (i suspect much of it is now D2) .. D2 is the the vegan version and they are making many foods subtley vegan these days. D2 was known to block the receptors for D3 long ago .. so you wind up with even less.
Its all super complicated but the idea of simply going back to native diets will mean a massive fight for the small amount of good food we can produce .. People generally get annoyed when i say that and claim we can all have carnivore diets .. thats a ghastlhy thought in my mind at least. The resources needed would be huge.
Ive discussed for years the feasibility of eating wild meats but that seems like a nightmare to scale up also.
Thinking back to the great vegan rat poison wars of the 1980s , i wonder if that was when they decided to poison the humans with D2 instead .. hmmmm
Our answer is to be better custodians of natire and manage our fisheries so they arent full of mercury, plastic and overfished ..
It's possible the mushroom D vits will somehow save the day .. I bank on those foods myself, mainly. My ancestors were tall and strong in the north from eating whales and I dont think that's a sustainable way forward . We are at various crunch points as a species and personally I'd avoid chemical supplements like the plague.
Osteoporosis is more about silica and boron in my understanding .. supplementing with calcium has made things a lot worse I think.
If you want to get it right for *yourself personally there are some excellent diet channels now which can keep you healthy, as long as you can afford the real foods. The problem is this stuff doesnt scale up so eventually you'll be fighting the big strong boys for the best food I guess.
It does .. in fact I moved to my region based on what he said about the previous health of the people here. Virtually no-one lives as well here now as people back in his day. Most folk couldn’t afford to even if they wanted to, and as of yesterday it seems we’ve just destroyed our fishing industry and given it over to supertrawlers from abroad.
Native diets are understandably a very sensitive subject so I dont make too big a deal of it I didnt have to relocate too far because both these areas he studied were in Europe and I chose the one most likely to align with my heritage, assuming that would give me the best chances. I’m happy to be called a throwback :)
Probably is tbh.. most cultures have used fungi since forever. Even manna from heaven may have been fungus. I drink it, as coffee myself.. very tasty .
Thank you so very much for this article, like yourself I have been in the same conundrum. I run a small supplement shop and have been involved with supplements for over 15 years. During this time I have seen high dose Vitamin D pop people out of severe depression, perhaps it's not long lasting since I didn't have follow up. I rather settled on the steroid aspect so perhaps it's useful as conversion to other hormones in the human body.
Long term supplementation of D3 is obviously an unknown plus the other individual variables are too complex to suss out "root cause". The other issue I confront working with people with "chronic" conditions is exactly what you mention and should be obvious but isn't to many; lifestyle, lack of exercise, fear of the sun, poor dietary choices, and dependency on the medical mafia's pharma, which all compound into a diseased body, mind, and even soul (noted in the heavily vaxxed). So I ask myself in any effort to provide some relief, can short term high dose Vitamin D3 alleviate a depressed person's symptoms and is it better than say going on pharmaceutical addictive compounds?
Sadly helping someone whose choices and lack of self responsibility make changes is most often a frustrating exercise. Therefore I do the best I can with supplementation, at this point it's pretty basic recommendations, cod liver oil, magnesium (different forms for different needs), well researched probiotics for differing symptoms, amino acids, trace minerals and at times L-Theanine, 5HTP, Gaba, etc. I prefer to see these recommendations as better than pharmaceuticals meanwhile working with the person to find some inner will that truly and fully wants to be well.
Modern human is so far away from natural human and it's interaction with nature that we are left with asking uncomfortable questions and wondering how the human body is so adaptive that it is even surviving.
Again, thank you for putting this question on the screen, they are important and by honestly asking them we may come to an aspect of human biology that doesn't rely on bio-chemical interactions as the basis of health.
Well Said. 95% of People are Incapable of Changing. Sadly. Myself Included. 😢. I’ve Been Listening To Gary Null for 30 Years. All Wonderful Advice. Wonderful Documentaries also. And I Found This Article Fascinating. 🧐. I’m Hoping to Change My Thoughts. To. Change My Brain. 🧠. I Will Die Trying. 😳🧐.
"Once a standard supplement in traditional European societies, cod liver oil provides fat-soluble vitamins A and D, which Dr. Price found present in the diet of primitives in amounts ten times higher than in modernized diets. Cod liver oil supplements are a must for women and their male partners, to be taken for several months before conception, and for women during pregnancy. Growing children will also benefit greatly from a small daily dose...
...Children age 3 months to 12 years: A dose of cod liver oil that provides about 5000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from about 1 teaspoon of regular cod liver oil or ½ teaspoon of high-vitamin cod liver oil.
Children over 12 years and adults: A maintenance dose of cod liver oil that provides about 10,000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from 2 teaspoons of regular cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon of high-vitamin cod liver oil.
Pregnant and nursing women: A dose of cod liver oil that provides about 20,000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from 4 teaspoons regular cod liver oil or 2 teaspoons high-vitamin cod liver oil."
What a weird comment. People are dying from cod liver oil. 🤔 Not vaccines, EMFs, a food supply that is poisoned and empty of nutrition. Not from poor self esteem, not from lack of exercise, not from pharmaceutical drugs, and certainly not from a fake world narrative of diabolical proportions — must be from cod liver oil.
Personal anecdote: was depressed, sick all the time, cold sores: Vit D level checked and 17 (very low) Supplemented per Dr order: Vit D 30 (normal) felt better. Started taking 5,000 IU D3 + K2 daily: Vit D level 50 ish and depression completely gone, I take no meds at 54, never sick, and look younger and feel better than I did at 40. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.
Similar story here. I heard about the importance of D perhaps 10 years ago. I started taking D3 supplements regularly at that time and later added K2 after I learned that was recommended when taking D3.
I would say I would get sick about as often as the average person before that. I Rarely got the flu (last time was 2004) even before I started on D3 but surely had my share of colds.
Since I started with the regular D3 supplementation I just don't seem to get sick. I may have a brush with a (very) minor cold but that happens only every few years, never gets as bad as it once regularly did and lasts a day or two at most.
The difference is striking so there is no doubt on my part about the benefits of D3 supplementation. At least for me.
I have no plans to stop taking 5000 IU every day along with K2.
BTW, never got jabbed and never got Covid or if I did, I did not notice it. And I was in the "high risk" group since I'm 66.
Do you take the D3 plus k2 supplement separately or buy the supplement as D3 + k2 combined? If purchasing separately: How much k2 is adequate per 1000 iu of D3?
No worries if you can't answer that question as I can research. Thanks!
In my mid 50s I thought I was turning into an old man. Low mood, sore joints, sore muscles and constant colds. While investigating something else my GP discovered thst I was extremely low on Vit D and prescribed supplementation.
Within a couple of weeks I felt like I'd dropped 10 years of off my age. All my symptoms disappeared, and my cardiovascular exercise capacity as measured on machines at my gym improved enormously. I also haven't been sick since, despite sleeping next to my wife through her two bouts of covid. I didn't get the covid vax either.
5000 IU per day now.
Anybody who says Vit D is bad for you is deranged, IMHO.
Are you taking D3 or D2? I have been on D2 for several years (except the 3 years I lived in SC - sunlight!), and especially now that I am back in OH (gray skies).
Do not take D2 it's D3 with K2 mk7 you need , your body cannot use it & it does nothing for you . Take magnesium at the same time too I take a 3 in 1 , there are 7 different ones so you need to learn about what magnesium you need .
Used to have raised BP, skin issues and (as Winston Churchill stated "Black Dog Days") dropped seed oils and majority of carbs- I'm now the healthiest I have been since my 20s.....8000iu vit d3 and K2 daily. Oh and I don't get sunburnt anymore.
Being depressed mentally takes a monstrous toll on the body. As the article suggests, Vit D worked well for people with specific ailments. Perhaps this is what worked for you. I am 75 and not taking any drugs and seldom are sick. Hope you continue to fare well.
2) most integrative physicians, if they are going to supplement vitamin D, are diligent about tracking the level, calcium, and the patient’s response. Masterjohn would add that you should track 1,25-diOH-VitD and PTH too.
3) there’s something to be said about balance. I and other providers typically recommend combining vitamin D with K2 when supplementing, and to balance out vitamin A and E from foods. A natural supplement that contains vitamin D in balance is cod liver oil, and this was quite popular in our grandparents’ generation and before.
4) when you go down the rabbit hole of studies around vitamin D, many of them are “designed to fail”. They don’t check pre-intervention levels, or if they do, they don’t check post-intervention levels to see if the dose did anything; they “under-dose” with respect to what integrative providers typically use; they don’t include any other balancing factors as described above. It’s a similar playbook used by the tobacco industry and exported to other groups, as described by Pierre Kory on ivermectin and others for other topics not convenient to the mainstream. More details about this here: https://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v14n22.shtml
I was not implying that everyone should be using it indefinitely, just as something to consider if vitamin D supplementation is indicated. Do you have evidence regarding the claim that adherents to the “Weston Price” diet are developing cancer? Anecdotes, case series, or anything else? I’m not familiar with this claim.
There are anecdotes of early deaths in the cohort, but it’s hard to draw conclusions from what’s discussed. What other factors are considered and eliminated as possibilities? Isn’t it possible that there could have been other factors besides cod liver oil use? The last case is illustrative of this point - how come the family member who was impacted by cancer the one who took the least amount of cod liver oil? The other family members seemed to have taken much higher amounts without apparent ill effects. What explains that discrepancy? It seems like another factor was at play in that one case where we have more information.
I don't disagree with you with the general point that any supplement should be viewed with skepticism when anyone makes the claim that it should be an indefinite one, rather than something used on a short-term basis for specific reasons. I would agree that long-term it's ideal to address health concerns through lifestyle and arranging our life and our environment to match our ancestral patterns as best as possible.
I am familiar with Grant Genereux's work on Vitamin A toxicity. I'm skeptical that this is a root cause for many people as he seems to claim, especially when testing does not support this interpretation and people suffer for months without relief following his protocol and recommendations. Your mention of Grant reminds me of when Chris responded to an influencer about his own health possibly being caused by vitamin A toxicity. It would be well worth your time to review if you had not seen it before - https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/my-response-to-garrett-smith-about
Good article, thought-provoking. I was reminded too, of raw milk. I was talking to my husband today about how the milk industry was created through pasteurization. At that point, people were already convinced that “science” fixed “natural” problems, but they were still buying fresh milk from their local farmers, so they told them (with tv commercials, I believe) about the “dangers” of raw milk. Just like with the Texas measle epidemic, where two children were falsely represented as dying from measles, they presented a couple false cases of raw milk poisoning. I believe it probably is possible for raw milk to make someone sick, although I mistrust the media when they say this has happened- because of their track record. However, it would seem that this danger is vanishingly small. It’s like telling people that they shouldn’t have pets because of rabies, or eat canned goods because of botulism. Today’s milk is ultra-pasteurized, you don’t even need to store it in a fridge until after it is opened. It is boiled to death. We are fortunate that we found a farm selling raw milk, and it is very delicious. My husband met a young man there, who said that he was “lactose intolerant”, but had no trouble drinking the raw milk. I’ve heard of people who thought they couldn’t tolerate gluten in flour, but then found they could eat European flour just fine. So I think you are right, we are being poisoned.
My mother went to emergency one day after her third migraine headache (was not normal for her) the emerg. Doc gave her two needles in her skull, on the top! (I was not there...otherwise I wouldn't have allowed it)
Following this "visit" my mother had a series of strokes over the following 4 months. The strokes caused neurological damage & I suspect were caused by the needles in the skull.
After her strokes she was diagnosed with MS. And now she considers herself an MS sufferer.
This was a cascade effect from one visit to the ER. It's been a couple decades since and she still has the effects of the brain damage but does not link any of these events together. So I agree with your statement whole heartedly. Now she takes the vitamin d as a life saving agent and is afraid to not take it as it's the only thing MS doctors really recommend. I don't know about vitamin d deficiency as she is a sun worshipper...winter months in Mexico, dark Tan all year around.
I’ve reconciled that issue years ago. We are continually producing abnormal cells and it is a strong and vibrant immune system that eliminates the abnormal cells. When the immune system becomes deficient, then the immune system, T cells are not sufficient and are overwhelmed by cancer cells of one type or another depending on what are the root causes.
Dr. MacDonald proved from autopsies that MS is caused by the round worm. My sister has MS and is, from time to time, prescribed steroids. -- isn't Vit D a STEROID hormone? Hmmm. That might explain its beneficial anti-inflammatory, immune suppressive effect on MS sufferers.
Tbh, I was more than a bit annoyed with "Agent" calling every supplement poison. Especially vitamin B12.
A century ago people with Pernicious Anemia ( the inability to absorb vitamin B12 via the liver) used to die a horrific death within ONE YEAR -no exceptions.
In 1926 Drs George Minot & William Murphy discovered that large amounts of liver (later liver extract) could reverse the disease.
For this groundbreaking discovery, Drs. Whipple, Minot, and Murphy received the 1934 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
Later, scientists isolated the “anti-pernicious anemia factor” from liver — which turned out to be vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin), discovered in 1948.
Mary Shorb, a bacteriologist, was studying how a certain microorganism, Lactobacillus lactis (later renamed L. lactis Dorner), required a special growth factor.
She suspected this factor was the same as the one curing pernicious anemia.
Working with Karl Folkers (Merck) and Alexander Todd (Cambridge), Shorb helped develop an assay to measure it.
Using this tool, teams at Merck (U.S.) and Glaxo (U.K.)independently isolated the red crystalline substance from liver in 1948.
The substance was named vitamin B12 (cobalamin). The red color comes from a single cobalt atom at the core-the only vitamin with a metal ion.
Tiny but continuous doses "cured" pernicious anemia within weeks, where before it was fatal.
In 1956, Dorothy Hodgkin (who also solved the structure of insulin and penicillin) used X-ray crystallography to determine the complex structure of B12.
It remains one of the most complicated natural molecules ever fully mapped.
Chemical synthesis was finally achieved in the 1970s, though production today is mainly microbial fermentation.
Millions of people worldwide are alive today because of the availability of synthetic, POISONOUS , injectable vitamin B12.
The injections must continue forever.
It's a small price to pay to stay alive.
Another chemical waste product that somehow cures nerve damage after strokes plus a gazillion other maladies is DMSO.
I can personally attest to the efficacy of these two "poisons" in saving lives.
Go figure.
Regarding your question about the source of vitamin D among the Inuits and other arctic peoples. Below are traditional arctic strategies to prevent vitamin D deficiency :
( courtesy of Chat GTP)
Cod Liver Oil & Fish Liver
• Cod liver oil was (and still is) a traditional Arctic “superfood.”
• Rich in vitamin D and vitamin A, it was taken daily, sometimes straight from the liver.
• Other fish livers (halibut, haddock) were also consumed.
2. Fatty Fish (Eaten Whole)
• Herring, mackerel, Arctic char, salmon, and trout were staples.
• Often eaten raw, fermented, or dried, preserving vitamin D.
• Eating the skin and fat (where vitamin D concentrates) was especially important.
3. Marine Mammal Fat & Organs
• Seal, walrus, and whale blubber/liver provided vitamin D (and A).
• Seal oil in particular was a dietary fat and nutrient source.
4. Fermented & Preserved Foods
• Fermentation (e.g., of fish or seal) preserved nutrients.
• Some fermentation methods even enhanced bioavailability of fat-soluble vitamins.
5. Seasonal Sunlight Use
• In summer, people maximized sun exposure during brief periods of 24-hour daylight.
• Skin pigmentation among Inuit is slightly lighter than other circumpolar groups, allowing more vitamin D synthesis in short sunlit months.
"It's almost as if the body, when pushed to extremes by disease or deficiency, can utilize even a toxic substance in beneficial ways."
A little bit of poison is good for you.
I knew someone who worked at Kodak. They used gallons of nicotine which required double hazmat suits because any splash on the body would kill you. They spilled it in their yard once and killed the entire river in Rochester NY. Here I am sucking on a nicotine mint because like nothing else it pulled me out of the COVID brain fog.
Wow, you brought up some very good points and some very good questions to ask.
I'm sure it is very difficult to open people's eyes to this, when these people are in fear of becoming seriously ill or even death if not taking this supplement, a fear reinforced by their doctors.
It is complex to capture this whole system and understand how it works. You have to become knowledgeable in various areas. This will prevent most people form believing any of it and they won't look into it, because they don't understand it and it is too much work.
It's almost like everything around us is designed to fool us and simultaneously drain us of consciousness, brain capacity, time to live, health, money, freedom, etc.
I appreciate your articles. You are very good in collecting information, connecting dots and pointing out important questions. Could you write about the reverse scenario? How would my life look like, if I want to avoid falling for any of these "scams" out there? What would I really need to maintain a healthy body, live a healthy lifestyle, avoid substances that could trigger side effects and send me down rabbit holesm
From grass-fed cows, preferably. Even in Wisconsin, The Dairy State, that can be difficult to find. Virtually all my life I have a heavy drinker (milk). I now have osteoarthritis. After years of searching, I have recently found a place nearby to purchase raw milk produced by grass-fed cows.
I spend many hours outdoors, especially in the summer, and was curious about my Vitamin D levels. I took a blood test 2 years ago, near the end of summer, and was surprised to find my D3 levels were only around 40 ng. So, I started taking D supplements. Before too long, my knees started aching so much that I couldn't sleep. After researching, I discovered that Vitamin D supplementation leaches calcium from the bones (or something like that). After taking Vitamin K2 those pains in my knees went away. Maybe (probably) I can eventually drop the K2 supplementation because of the raw milk and butter consumption.
A pound of butter a week per person, and a dozen good yolky fresh eggs, plus a generous sprinkling of sea salt, would put most doctors out of business:).
From Jeff Bowles
The whole problem with this article is that the author starts off with no understanding of Vitamin D3's cofactors.
The reason D3 can be used as a rat poison is because it depletes the rats' vitamin K2 levels, which then triggers hypercalcemia. If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier. Yes, it also depletes magnesium. And if someone experiences negative effects from taking a high dose of D3 immediately, it is always due to triggering symptoms of magnesium deficiency. At very high doses that some humans take—like 100,000 to 300,000 IUs per day—it usually takes about 4 to 6 months to trigger a toxic vitamin K2 deficiency, leading to hypercalcemia. After even longer periods of high-dose D3, you eventually get induction of boron and zinc deficiencies, as well as vitamin A. These are all cofactors that D3 uses up in its processes. In fact, there is no such thing as vitamin D3 toxicity—that is just an old doctor’s tale. What you are really seeing are just various cofactor deficiencies induced by high-dose D3 consuming them. D3 itself is completely non-toxic. The author would be better off if he would spend some time reading the book "The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases—What Doctors Never Learned."
From Robert Yoho, MD
D is the most important wonder vitamin, and we have substantial backing for this.
Here is my D draft post due out in 10 days or so
https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/072c884b-918f-4525-8a14-8d646bc0785e
I wrote it entire comment about this subject but I personally was taking vitamin D with K2. Experienced some of the worst muscle and joint pain of my life that mysteriously came on me about a year and a half ago starting in my right hip and then moving to my right shoulder. A friend of mine asked me if I was taking anything and I told him I was taking three and K2 and after looking at the side effects for the active ingredient in D3 he noticed that muscle and joint pain was listed. After a week of stopping supplementation the pain started going away but it took a full six months before it was mostly gone. I still have lingering effects a year later. I find endless comments from people who think they're super smart listing studies instead of real world observations. How many people could be suffering from the side effects of D3 and have no idea what it is because all the smart people keep posting studies and insisting there's nothing wrong with it?
I have been taking 12,000 IU/day of D3 to get a blood level of 70 ng/ml, a very healthy level supported But you need the cofactors magnesium and vitamin k2-mk7. Before taking any supplement one needs to do a lot of research. How much you put in your mouth is not important, the blood level is and one should always get tested before and after supplementation is started.
Most likely you are deficient and need D3 but done with testing and adequate cofactors.
We have just come to 'we're good enough' and will be getting rid of some vitamins and supplements. We will live normally but as of today. Sometimes we will eat processed foods. We think prayer is a real thing, not some feel good mantra. We think being outside is good for many reasons. There are obvious benefits to eating outside. Crumbs disappear in the grass. I believe in my God-given immune system. Everything was done from birth to destroy mine. Slowly, a comeback is in the works. That has a lot to do with our thoughts and feelings. So, the goal is kis, and let's leave off the other s since nobody here comes under that label.
I work in my yard with shorts and flip-flops. My vitamin D levels are fine. I'm not taking rat poison from China. I was able to take D3 for several years until it nearly destroyed my life. I hope you are not headed to the same place. If so remember what happened to me.
No problem if you monitor your blood levels of calcifidiol and take magnesium and K2-MK7. 40+ years of research at UCSD supports what I do. I was part of their 40+ year study for many years.
It is almost impossible to OD on D3!
I am 78, and I have the physical and mental abilities of a 30 year old. Running miles at 115°F is no problem for me. But your D3 requirements are likely much different than mine. You must get your blood levels checked! 12,000 IU/day is the right number for me. If you are not athletic, UCSD research shows you likely need about 5,000 IU/day, but need a blood test to know for sure. If your blood level is low you are at risk for many cancers and other sicknesses. Most people in the US have low levels.
My blood level is 70 ng/ml which is perfect! Most pure around 20. My first test at UCSD years ago was 27, too low. At that time I spent hours in the sun every day! After a few months I was able to get it to the 60 ng/ml level, a minimum acceptable level to me.
I am an engineer but have been reading and doing medical research now for about 55 years! At this point I have optimized my supplement intake.
We had a lecture during the Covid plandemic in which Dr. Steven Malthouse made it quite clear- you cannot predict a patient's Vitamin D level, you must measure it. (This was after Vit D assay was delisted as a paid item under the provincial "health" monopoly.)
So I calibrated myself. 128 umolar [51 ng/ml] on 4000 IU daily from Oct. to May 1; 132 umolar [53 ng/ml] after taking an hour or so on the beach with a swim in the afternoon whenever the temperature was above 20C May-Sept. (Convenient as I was disemployed after declining my clot-shot.)
I was dismayed to realize that cholecalciferol is a pro-hormone.
Looking at the structures I should have seen this immediately.
I started looking at Vit D after Dr. Ryan Cole, early in the plandemic, made it clear that levels above 50 ng/ml were protective against covid.
Onward and backward. Our metabolic bone disease lectures were some of the most boring and poorly presented in the late 1970's. Then the bisphopsphonates and DEXA for "osteoporosis" and "osteopenia" became a promotion from the 1990's. I do not ever recall studies comparing Vit. D /Calcium with the drugs , which have some interesting side effects.
So then I began to understand that the Vitamin K2 cofactor was important; I take it with the 4000 units through the fall and winter, but not in summer.
There was some interesting research reported early in the plandemic using Vit D on hospitalised patients. One study used up to 300,000 units infused. I suspect that some of the benefit was derived from metabolic conversion to cortisol.
Without monitoring I take a zinc supplement a couple times per week and a Mg/Ca supplement once or twice weekly.
if you live in the south you probably get enough sunlight
people who live in the north (like northern germany for instance) and wear clothes all day, and work in offices.... not so much
C'mon people get real.... " I work in my yard with shorts and flip-flops" duh
Research shows that blood levels of 25(OH)D3 are not healthy.
https://danmaiullo.substack.com/p/the-more-vitamin-d-the-better
Tons of research show the opposite. Look at the research over decades at UC San Diego. I was in their studies many years. Quoting single or a few studies is not good since my experience shows 80-90% of studies are not worth the paper they are written on. One can show anything one wants in a study. On the other hand UCSD is a reliable source of data. I am 79 and take many supplements, including 12,000 IU of D3 per day. So far no problems associated with aging and still living like I am 25.
You do you. If it's working for you, keep going. I stand by the research I've found and my own personal experience as set forth in the substack post above. Spent some time in the sun yesterday while the rain held off. If felt really good.
Meant to say blood levels above 40 ng/ml.
Muscle and joint pain are a sign of magnesium depletion. D3 depletes magnesium, so they recommend taking it together.
yes and when you take a LOT of magnesium already, supposedly good quality from reputable sources.... what then???????
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I'm going off of it and so is my mom. I have also experienced increased pain since using it from about 2020 on. I am prayerful it will go away because nothing else has worked and I'm too young for this.
You may have other nutrient deficiencies that the D3 is exposing. Best to correct those before cutting out D3 which raises your risks of many other diseases. See https://grassrootshealth.net from UCSD, 40 years of D research on tens of thousands of people!
https://nutritiondetective.com/
I have take it for years, never had any pain. The research is pretty decisive. But you do you. I would point out that everyone has a different metabolism. Dosage is important. The problem with disecting these topics on the internet is that it filters for individuals who have bad experiences. Also, i found no evidence that corroberates the description of the manufacture process described here. My D3 was made in the US using UV light to extract the vitamin from lanolin. No horrible industrialized extraction using chemicals. But, as i said, you do you.
UV doesn't extract D3 from lanolin. The UVB converts ergosterol in lanolin to D3. After that, some solvent is used to extract the D3. Chloroform is one such solvent. Essentially none of the solvent remains after the extraction process so the scary sounding organic solvent should not be used to frighten people with statements such as "sheep grease and chloroform".
The research is pretty decisive despite no mention of all-cause mortality? That would be some extreme form of reductive thinking.
Can you share what brand this is? I’m currently supplementing D3 and K2 and fall into the severe deficiency category and would love to look into the one you mentioned.
I heard a natural health doctor talk about her elderly dad who was severely deficient and vitamin D. Despite supplementing heavily, his vitamin D levels would not raise high enough. So she sent him to a tanning bed! She even said this is highly frowned upon by the medical community, but she had him start with only five minutes and increased to only 15 minutes Per visit, I believe. She said in a short time, his vitamin D was at the levels that needed to be, and he felt great. I could tell she felt very conflicted about recommending that given all of that research that supposedly shows that tanning beds lead to skin cancer, but she said, at least in his case, and given his elderly age, That this was the only thing that would raise the vitamin D and was worth the potential risks. And you said he ended up without any skin issues. So I wonder if this falls into the category of tanning bed risks and the sources of skin cancer also being mislabeled or manipulated?
Look up the Jimmy Dore show on YouTube. He has a segment on dermatology / skin cancer. The dermatologist messaging is avoid the sun, it causes melanoma. But studies show it doesn’t. Sun exposure appears to reduce the incidences of melanoma.
The dermatologist advice increases incidences of melanoma and decreases the non-deadly skin cancers.
I recently started a weekly low-dose of tanning bed UV and I at least look better, I have very pale skin in the winter.
I am sailing through this winter (never get colds anymore and I have attributed that to Vitamin D3 AND keeping my indoor environment at proper humidity)
I have been using NaturaLife Labs Vitamin C+
The article promotes thought and research not criticism
You should contact the researchers at UC San Diego. I am sure they would be interested in your case and may be able to shed some light on your condition. They should have encountered something similar in the last 40 years of their research. The consumer facing website for them is https://grassrootshealth.net .
Unpopular Autist - I also got hypercalcemia symptoms from taking D3/K2. Muscle cramps, heart palpitations, anxiety, eye twitches. It took about a year for me to heal and magnesium was key in the healing process, as was natto.
and HOW MUCH VITAMIN D were you taking????????????
what a half-assed post
I was going to mention the K2 connection (which I always use in conjunction with D3) but now I don't need to.
It took me about 6 months for 90% of the pain to go away. It's been a year now and I barely feel it but I've never experienced anything like that pain before. It was 24 hours a day. And what's strange is that it started in my right hip, then move to my right shoulder and my right hip stopped hurting, then back to my right shoulder. It felt almost like it was in The Joint deep inside. I was wondering if I had bone cancer. It's only because my friend asked me what I was taking that I found a solution. I can only imagine if I went to a standard doctor how much time and money it would have taken to figure out what was wrong with me more than likely I would be on painkillers and a handful of pharmaceuticals everyday. This is what's so frustrating reading these comments by these know-it-all doctors here. It seems that they have a Hustle and that is pharmaceuticals, vaccines and procedures. Their entire business depends on them. Anything that can upset that business would destroy them being able to pay for their mortgage, car notes and private school for their kids so they become sociopathic toward Solutions and the truth and are only worried about protecting the status quo.
I am a female. Almost 60. I never get sick but decided to finally go to a doctor back in March just to check things. My D3 levels were low. They advised me to take 2000 units a day. I have developed pain in my right shoulder and my left knee. I didn't think any thing of it other than it was odd. Now Im starting to think maybe its the D3. Im done taking it. And I stopped going to that doctor. It seemed like they wanted to find something wrong so they could push pills. There is longevity on both sides of my family. I'll take my chances.
Shoulder and knee pain development is also common post-menopause due to low estrogen levels (capsulitis and tendinopathy)
there's a BIG difference between "pushing pills" and recommending supplements
PILLS enrich Pig Pharma® and supplements don't
pharma pays doctors to prescribe poison and shots
You must be a PR guy for Big Pharma®...this plays into their scam perfectly. Look behind the supplement labels and guess who you find...yup, you guessed right...now double-check ;)
https://nutritiondetective.com/
There may be something to this. I was taking 10K IU of D3 a day (with no decernable I'll effects) & decided to do 25K once a week. The next morning my right hip was the way you described yours. I didn't take anymore D3. The hip went back to normal after 2 days. As of now, I'm ceasing my dose(s) of D3 unless I see unequivocal evidence of its benefit.
Even a simple Google search will tell us that 15 to 20 minutes of sunlight under optimal conditions can produce 10,000 IU's of vitamin D3. Why not just get sunlight instead of using these synthetic chemicals of dubious origin? The hustle never stops for these science believers. Why would they not recommend you just go get more sunlight without putting on toxic sunscreen? What could possibly go wrong? What if you went out and did some gardening for 30 minutes? I just don't understand what motivates scientism believers. It's never the toxic chemicals and the solution is never healthy living.
In the upper latitudes, you get ZERO vit D3 synthesis from Oct to March no matter how much time you spend in the sun. I think we are all looking for health optimization & the best ways on doing that. Some supplementation along with lifestyle changes may, at times, be a valuable tool in doing that.
You'll also find ppl in those very northern lats have a higher propensity of certain diseases. Not sure if humans were supposed to live in areas such as that.
Nikt nie wspomina o odcinaniu nas od słonecznego promieniowania UVB, które jest zatrzymywane przez "mgiełkę" po rozwianych smugach samolotowych.
The key for folks living far from the poles is acting in ways that honor their ancestors and allow fat metabolism to respond appropriately to the local outdoor seasonal environment. Which basically means, reasonable cold exposure and burning fat to release the D!
"Why not just get sunlight instead of using these synthetic chemicals of dubious origin?"
obviously you do NOT LIVE IN NORTHERN EUROPE WHERE THE SUN IS OFTEN NOT VISIBLE FOR WEEKS AT A TIME..... god, this so difficult
floridians may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer but they can certainly be as arrogant as arizoners and californicators
I really wanted off the synthetic D3 as well, and for months did the sunshine thing. Unfortunately, my 25OH levels were too low, Had to return to the sheep greese.
Interesting. Did you ever have blood work done in that time period? Was your calcium elrvated at all? My calcium fluctuates to borderline high, which concerns me about taking D3, even with K2. My D,125 levels are higher than my D,25 which I've read can be a concern. I'm conflicted and confused.
I just stopped taking the supplements and got more sunlight. I think many of our issues are due to our diets and US unintentionally poisoning ourselves with toxic chemicals in our detergents, suntan oil, processed foods etc. Not to mention whatever is in the air and water that the government is always meddling with.
Also, when people "get more sunlight", that usually means they're also getting more exercise.
If you could bottle up all the things exercise does for health you'd make a fortune selling it !
It can be challenging to create good consistent healthy habits in this age of constant tech distractions.
Has your physician reviewed total calcium versus ionized calcium with you?
As noted above in the comment thread there are other considerations including magnesium.
Parathyroid hormone is also interesting when considering calcium physiology.
There is a substack writer who wrote about her husband dying after taking vitamin D without K2. They just didn't know it was necessary to take that too.
Yes, this article is a large load of bullcrap.
BTW: The author of that book is Bowles, not Yoho.
Rat poison is 100 times the concentration the author says it is.
I noticed that right off and looked hard for this comment !
Well I guess that settles it!
conflicted and confused no more? OR are you just being an ahole?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/369itN3cbEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjJdzHIwDDU
A random "dude" on the internet exclaims: "this article is bullcrap" (with ZERO evidence) and then actually questions whether or not his exclamation settled the debate, or I if was just being sarcastic. Too funny! Funnier still is the "proof" of your exclamation is a Dr. Berg video. Ever heard the quote that starts: Better to remain silent....?
Well, asscheese... Berg is a sharp guy... I do not agree with all he says, but he is miles smarter than YOU, moron.
There are articles and books on high-dose Vitamin D3 all over, read a few, you craven dumbshit...
More info for your dumb ass:
https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/072c884b-918f-4525-8a14-8d646bc0785e
https://www.bitchute.com/video/xNCqaGOy4UXP
Now, do some research, jagoff... the STFU and F-0ff.
Much of the benefit from these articles does result from the comments.
I rarely access the videos, though.
obviously
No need to be a douche bag, fella.
Take some more D... and maybe a Xanax.
Why is this ignoring vitamin A intake? D k2 and A all need to be recommended together.
NOBODY is reading this whole thing! Good lord. And most people know that you take vitamin D(3) with K2, and magnesium. The K2 directs the D3 to your bones and the magnesium keeps it there.
The author, and my doctor who said “there is no known benefit to taking K2 with D3.” A quick google search tells you otherwise. And this is why trust in the medical establishment is eroding.
Uh, did you actually read the article? He's very clear on some benefits, so....
Here is the published post:
https://robertyoho.substack.com/publish/posts/detail/170788532?referrer=%2Fpublish%2Fposts%2Fpublished
The page is 'private' - cannot access.
and this: Vitamin D is a fascinating compound because while essential for human health, it's also quite challenging to isolate and observe in its purely natural state.
Here's why obtaining a photograph of isolated, natural vitamin D (not synthetic) under a microscope is difficult:
Lipophilic and Low Concentration: Vitamin D is fat-soluble and exists in very low concentrations within biological samples (like fish, mushrooms, or blood). This makes extraction and purification difficult.
Unstable in Isolation: Vitamin D, when extracted from its natural matrix and exposed to air, light, and heat, can be unstable and prone to degradation. It's sensitive to light and oxidation, and can undergo a reversible isomerization to previtamin D3, according to ChemicalBook.
Presence of Similar Metabolites: Biological samples contain various vitamin D metabolites and other compounds with similar chemical properties, making it hard to isolate pure vitamin D.
Synthetic Production and Research Focus: Synthetic vitamin D, particularly D3, is readily available and widely used in supplements and food fortification. Much of the research and imaging available likely focuses on these more accessible synthetic forms.
In essence, while vitamin D has been isolated and identified, the instability and difficulty in obtaining it in a pristine, naturally-derived form make microscope images of "natural" isolated vitamin D less common than those of its synthetic counterparts. The readily available synthetic form is often the focus of research and imaging due to its easier accessibility and stability for controlled experiments.
"If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier."
Have you (speaking to the original author) tested this or is it idle speculation?
The rest of this is biochemistry fables of the sort that were already addressed in the article: i.e., we have only the most roundabout and questionable evidence that any of these substances occur in nature in the first place, much less that they do anything helpful in the body.
You are correct and what shocks me is doctors are not even aware of this fact. The author of this essay needs to be better informed.
And just to make life even more exciting and mysterious, we also need to consider the wonderful effects of Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNI"S) that truly turn life into an n=1 experience. Really enjoyed the topic and discussion. I work in surgery, and I can say with very high confidence that when we test, treat and correct for a "deficiency" (<12ng/dL), we reliably observe clinically relevant improvement in at least 1 out of 6 treated.
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Why are you calling it Vit D?
Thank you. Saved me from commenting the same thing.
I am sure, big Pharma loves your discussion about vitamin D being a poison. If I give my dog chocolate, he will die. If I drink too much water, I will die lifestyle issues and lack of exposure to sunlight in the northern temperature zones and the southern temperate zones reduces the bodies required amount of vitamin D for maintaining good health. Studies in the 1930s in the 1940s in the USA demonstrated the safety of vitamin D for consumption.. It is 10 times safer than what it’s being expressed. The VA ran a study in the USA Midwest area that demonstrated that they reduced veterans health issues by 50% by providing them with increased levels of vitamin D.. They ignore the studies because it doesn’t grow the bureaucracy that they are managing. Harvard ran a vital study and never measured blood value of vitamin D to determine its true contribution to good health, and the study was purposely designed to discredit the true value of vitamin D.. for those that are interested in the true value of vitamin D I recommend very highly www.vitamindwiki.com that documents, the true value of vitamin D in maintaining good health. Many of the prescription drugs that are consumed chronically by humans that are pushed by the drug trade deplete key nutrients in the body and are they causes of ill health. The one that I am aware of that is ignored by medicine is a proton pump inhibitors chronic consumption destroys vitamin D, which is essential for good health, and the average American carries about half of the blood value of what is required to stay healthy and is demonstrated by the research at vitamin D wiki. I will continue to take 5000. IU’s vitamin D daily and maintain a blood value of a round 70 ng’s. There is sufficient evidence that 80% of the breast cancer cases would not exist if every woman had a blood value over 50 ng’s. Pushing the fear that vitamin D is a poison benefits our bloated healthcare system in the USA.. the endocrinologist in the USA understand the true value of vitamin D and their viewpoint is ignored by big medicine because it again doesn’t grow our bloated healthcare system.
The following quote is from your comment. How do we know that “the average American carries about half of the blood value of what is required to stay healthy” when real vitamin D in a human has never been isolated?
As an essential nutrient, humans benefit from the protection natural vitamin D offers. But, humans don’t require synthetic vitamin D, and that is the value we are measuring in our labs, 25(OH)D.
I disagree with your conclusion “Pushing the fear that vitamin D is a poison benefits our bloated healthcare system in the USA”. The author is providing caution, not fear, and if critically thinking about this issue is doing anything, it’s siphoning the healthcare system in the USA.
First. Millions of medical students including myself were lied to that more than 1000 iu’s of vitamin D taken daily was poisonous. Just like they lied about Ivermectin. The studies which are on www.vitamindwiki.com from the 1940’s indicated that more than 1000iu’s/KG was the max. That is 70 times more than what you and I believed was true. Why did they dropped the KG in the medical literature. That is why I object to the word “paradox”. Which is equating the two issues.
Second, in 2008 my wife and I both had Vitamin D blood draws and hers came out horribly deficient and she had been battling lymphoma successfully for 9 years because of the nutritional program I had her on that the oncologist didn’t want to hear about. It included Vitamin D. At that time I didn’t know how important it was. My blood value was 50 ng’s. Why the difference? She was a blue eyed beautiful blonde and was told to stay out of the sun since childhood because she was more susceptible to sun stroke. I in turn played golf year round and never used sunscreen. We were together for almost 50 years and traveled together , ate the same food together, but she had a severe nutrient deficiency of Vitamin D. So, what was the endocrinologist measuring if it wasn’t the blood value of D?
In 2011, now called NAM produced a Vitamin D study that understates the true value of Vitamin D. It doesn’t recognize the hormonal role of D. It only recognizes that for bone health you need 20 ng’s as being normal. NIH in turn has stated to this day that that study is boiler plate!
Dr. Manson of Harvard ran a 4 year study on D but never measured the blood value of D to determine correlation.
I have meet and talked to the astute researchers who know the true valuer of D. Dr. Garland told me 15 years ago, that he went to DC to explain his D research and they were not interested. It has not changed. Dr. Matthews has saved many lives in his treatment of brain trauma by including D. He also has improve the brain health of poor black children in rural Mississippi by boosting D. He has been instrumental in other efforts too, but is ignored. Ask your self why?
Converting cholesterol to D requires a healthy kidney as well as a healthy liver.
Many drugs including acetaminophen interfere . When a physician does write a RX for D he writes for Vitamin D2 which is 50,000 iu’s of poorly metabolized form. Ask your self why? Check out what grassrootshealth has published as well as the store house of studies on vitamindwiki. The truth needs to be known. ADA leads the charge to discredit D. Ask yourself why? Ask yourself why J & J deep sixth Cue which had a simple blood test for D.
Lifestyle issues, prescription drugs, eggs without D, over use of sunscreen and many other factors have driven down the average blood value of D to sub optimal levels.
We now embrace this as normal. They have to give chickens in tin barns D so
they don’t break their legs. Our bloated sickcare system just keeps growing!
I’m not giving you advice whether to take vitamin d or not, that’s your choice, I’m pointing out that the “evidence” is weak. when I was in diatetics school, they told us the same thing about 1000 IU. Yet, “No traditional culture needed sheep's wool dissolved in chloroform and irradiated to be healthy.”
Our ancestors didn’t supplement vitamin d. So like the author concluded, what did our ancestors do that we have stopped doing? Or what toxic elements have we added that may be causing dysregulation.
Yea! True. They didn’t need supplementation because they worshipped the sun, did not lather up with sunscreens and etc.
Correct, sun became the enemy in the 70s and things have been going downhill ever since. I started taking Vit D a few years ago (a non-believer).....needless to say, I am one now. Went from being sick 3-4x a year to being sick once every 3-4 years and of course I am increasing with age....
I will be 70 this year, I do not get colds in winter (proper humidification of my indoor environment and possibly my Vit D supplementation believed to be factors). I KNOW the humidification helps my mucous membranes AND my guitars :o )
This does not explain the healthiness of the Inuit.
Cod liver oil is high in vitamin D. They get it from their diet.
Big fresh fish eaters and etc.
Our ancestors - prior to the 19th century - as a rule didn't enthusiastically spray lead-arsenate all over their farmland permanently poisoning their soil getting arsenic and lead into the food supply. Since that was pesticide #1 from the mid 19th century to 1950 or so, 100% of nutrition and "germ theory" research of the 1850s-1950's has to be junked as it failed to control for "people enthusiastically consuming comically toxic substances that they thought were harmless."
average age of death in 1905 was 45. Life has been brutal, harsh and short for most of mankind's existence.
Yep! We were just discovering sanitation, clean water and refrigeration!
It still is. At least then they didn’t have a privileged class trying to do away with them.
So you have vital statistics data from 40 AD? No you don't. SO.. talkin' out yer ass.
climate engineering is bullshit
the planet is too big for that crap
people have no idea how big the planet is, that is why they fall for that baloney
Just like freaking out over the release of radioactive water from Fukushima..... the oceans are HUGE and ICY COLD... if you ever see a nuclear molecule from Fukushima it will be a miracle
Dietitians are thoroughly and utterly propagandized into believing nonsense...HFLC is anathema to them, despite the obvious catastrophe high carb diet has caused.
So true! Thank God I already knew all of this when I was getting by degree….lets just say I had to have a big filter and keep my mouth shut.
Nonsense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9XiDJCG4zs&t=11s
Not nonsense! Dr Grant lays it out big time why there is confusion created about D. Good YouTube!
how about,
Up to 100 years ago "our ancestors" worked and lived OUTDOORS and got a lot more sun explosure
they ate REAL FOOD not the artificial crap people eat these days
they did not lead sedentary lifestyles, they were PHYSICALLY ACTIVE
this discussion is populated by idiots
I think the key takeaway from this article is that your wife’s penchant to cover up like an Inuit woman is irrelevant to her “vitamin D” levels. Her body, your body, my body will not produce cholecalciferol by sun exposure. The only way you will get it in your body is by putting it there. And to say someone is deficient is pretty fucking arbitrary and quite frankly absurd.
I agree with you that big pharma will always squash cheap natural remedies, by the way. I just don’t think this is one of them.
It sure is. Lot's of disinformation has muddy the truth.
I am skeptical of whatever you say, simply on the basis that your grammar is atrocious. That is indicative of several possibilities, some of which may point to a distinct lack of education...
Found the pedant.
ivermectin is poison. They used reverse psychology.
How do you know this?
It reduces fertility.
🤣🤣
fair-skinned blue-eyed blonde more subject to "sunstroke?"
try SUN BURN
I know! My wife was blue eyed blonde, and stayed out of the sun from childhood on because of the fear of sun stroke. Consequently, she acquired lymphoma and had a blood value that was ab normal and only nine ng’s, . Maybe we’ll get smart one of these days and start testing for vitamin D on a regular basis.
Medicine is an industry whose goal is profits, those in labs coats need to learn that or remember that.
Cheap fixes are generally frowned upon as a rule.
Go to www.vitamindwiki.com a learn . Lie was telling millions of pharmacist and physicians for over 50 years that more than 1000 IU’s of vitamin D daily is poisonous. It was actually 1000 IU’s per kilogram of body weight. That was the original research so it’s about 22 times more safe than what we have been told.
Your satire is amusing, a bit
Did you erase my response?
Highly thought provoking article, and great commentary here as well. Now I have much to research and study on my own.
Are you going to go to college and learn organic chemistry? I’m not a “trust the experts” guy, but neither you nor this author have the knowledge necessary to make heads or tails of this subject. You don’t need to “trust the experts”, but you do need to be a chemist.
You do not need to be a chemist to understand we have all been a target of Big Pharma the last few years. Follow paralegal Katherine Watt to know how the law has been rigged to protect vax mfgrs and Big Pharma. Then follow Sasha Latypova, former testing lab executive. She breaks down the bioweapon.
The point is, don't trust a PHD just because he has a PHD. Figure out the intentions of the PHDs funders.
"we have all been a target of Big Pharma the last few years."
the past 100 years or so
Medicine was completely morphed into allopathy by your old friends and benefactors, the ROCKEFELLERS
As holistic RN with my own business, I nearly deflected from listening to this. In total, a lot of this made sense. One point to consider the use of supplementing with fulvic and humic minerals. I am a BEAM Mineral affiliate, and they are harvested from layers 10-15 ft below earth's surface, are organic, not Lab produced, are ionic, and are complete and paired with their associated appropriate minerals that our cranial nerves need a balance of. They were also able to re-establish plant growth at Fukushima. Fields sprayed half with minerals were always preferred by sheep herds. Yes, back to "the garden", or what God created and intended for us. And yes, glyphosate is killing us by a thousand cuts. And last, Dr. Mercola proclaimed to have excessively high Vit D levels. Read of his recent mental health issues the other day....hhmmm.
Thank you for this fascinating article.
Followed Mercola for years, learned a lot but when he started heading for the spiritualistic ditch big-time I put on the brakes. Began noticing that he would find a study "validating" a new, expensive supplement which-conveniently enough-he carried in his store and jump on the bandwagon. He finally lost me permanently with the bull crap about how more than 25 grams of fructose per day, regardless of the source, was highly detrimental. To his credit, I see that he has backed waaaay off that ledge, but he is 3 years younger than I am and looks 10 years older so whatever he's doing diet and supplement wise sure as hell ain't the fountain of youth...and that recent apparent mental health issue isn't a real good look, either.
D is essential. In too high a dose it can be dangerous. But if you follow the label you shouldn't have any issues.
I moved to Florida and now I get sufficient D from the sun.
Another tip I learned is to keep your body on the alkaline side of the pH scale. You will avoid the problems of an acid body.
Natural, free vitamin D via direct sunlight without sunscreen for at least 20 minutes daily is highly beneficial. It’s why they’re dimming the sunlight under the guise of climate change.
None dare call it murder.
It's MURDER. Especially when combined with all the other death-mongering.
Truth⬆️⬆️⬆️
come on up to north germany and we will talk
Sorry but that’s an extremely dumb thing to think.
Good luck.
Not an issue.
Yeah, except you're a bit compromised, aren't you? Considering your field?
That is your opinion not mine.
I drove a convertible for a decade with the top down about 75% of the time in the sun as a daily driver and I had vitamin d deficiency? That explains the test for me and what might be happening
If synthetic Vit D is stored in body fat, then what good is a blood test?
And, if Vit D accumulates in body fat, what happens when a long-time Vit D supplementer fasts? Is a large dose of Vit D released into the blood stream/organs?
Great article!
Drinking pop with phosphoric acid? Have degraded liver and kidney function? Negatives in boosting D.
Have a soda twice a year usually a root beer float. Not notice any liver or kidney issue
My D level tests to about 80 ng/ml. Well into the sufficiency range.
Congrats and reminder to study mag, zinc, K2-mk7 perhaps potassium along with D3, maybe boron for enhancement (pinch of mule team borax/gal water.)
I am into all that. All good stuff. I also like sodium bicarbonate to up my pH. Living in an acid body is the cause of many diseases.
sodium bicarbonate does NOT "up your Ph"
try again
That is 32 IU’s .
acid can, however, be very liberating for the mind
You cannot trust the label of any supplement. Period.
https://thescamdoctor.substack.com/p/why-your-vitamin-d-protocol-is-a?r=6hgshq
The article speaks of the difference between getting sunshine daily and synthetic D. That they are not the same.
I believe they are not the same. But D in fish oils is another form of D. Synthetic D is used for rat poison in doses that cause rats calcium loads that kill them. D however in correct doses is beneficial for humans. But in to high of dosage will cause humans calcium problems too.
Too little sunshine with no D vitamins or things like cod liver oil will result in D deficiency.
I have never heard of anyone dying from taking synthetic D in recommend doses. The LD 50 is pretty high for D vitamins.
D is an essential vitamin, and D deficiency leads to many human health problems.
If you avoid the sun, and detest cod liver oil, better take some D vitamins.
What is the relationship between D in fish oil and synthetic D aka rat poison aka Cholecalciferol?
Maybe instead of tossing the Vitamin D word around loosely we start with the whole point of this article called: "The Vitamin D Paradox: What They Don't Tell You About Cholecalciferol". Paradox is the point. Does it help some by causing a challenge to the system?
Do you personally know someone harmed by synthetic vitamin D? Ever hear of it?
Apple seeds have minute amounts of cyanide in them, but eating the seeds has benefits.
I don't buy the premise of the article. I have taken vitamin D supplements myself and have had zero ill effects. I have managed to get my tested D level up to 90 ng/ml. I never get sick and have normal calcium levels. The author for some reason wants to spread fear about synthetic vitamin D.
I also know that no one with vitamin D levels above 50 ng/ml presented to the emergency room with COVID symptoms. Some don't get there without supplementation. And some fear cancer from too much sun. They put sunblock on which causes skin cancer in some people.
Have you ever taken a D supplement? Have you ever gotten sick from it?
There was an article floating around the medical community a nurse practitioner sent to me when COVID hit the scene stating that upping your D level would not prevent or have an effect on COVID. This was a lie. COVID was just rebranded flu aimed at ramping up fear to get you to take the deadly mRNA vaccines. If your D level is high enough you don't get COVID symptoms, or the seasonal flu. So I dispute the article's premise, and it won't change my behavior. You do what you want with the misinformation.
yeah, but "COVID" symptoms are bullshit... they are "flu" symptoms
COVID testing is based on PCR "testing" which is not a test, it is a process for creating a specific molecular sequence... read the CREATOR OF THE PCR TEST on the subject, he was very adamant that PCR is not a "diagnostic" test for anything.. and he was sure that it WOULD be used as such
PCT testing and COVID are a huge scam
"Have you ever taken a D supplement? Have you ever gotten sick from it?"
Yes
I am now since the last 5 years of suplementing about 8000 ui with D my calcium scan just showed up as alarming at 410 score which is wild. It was not true from the last scan from 8 years ago. Good news is it not cloging anything but its all over the place with calcium all over the place.
You say you have had no ill effect, was that head in the sand or did you actively take Coronary calcium scan? Before and after?
Kenneth, I don't think you did your homework (actually read the article).
I have read other articles like this one. I understand the calcium risk of D supplements. I know the mechanism of rat poison from vitamin D. The level of D in the blood of a human that becomes dangerous for humans is far higher than what can be attained following the dosage on the supplement's label. Even small dosages of cyanide has benefits, where too high a dose is deadly. There are small amounts of cyanide in apple seeds, I always eat the seeds in my apples.
When COVID came on the scene a physician's assistant sent me an article going around his circles claiming D would not help prevent COVID. We now know COVID was rebranded seasonal flu, which is not something you get if you have a tested D level above 50 ng/ml. Pay no attention to PCR tests. They tell the system what the system wants it to tell them.
Your propaganda is similar to other anti-health propaganda I have seen elsewhere. D, zinc and a zinc ionophore are keys to good health. Get your D from the sun. If you live in a northern climate zone, have your D level tested regularly and strive to get it in the range of 50 to 100 ng/ml. Take zinc and a zinc ionophore. Stay healthy.
One more thing, viruses have never been proven to exist. Fear can be deadly if it gets you to make the wrong choices, like taking a vaccine.
"We now know COVID was rebranded seasonal flu, which is not something you get if you have a tested D level above 50 ng/ml. Pay no attention to PCR tests. They tell the system what the system wants it to tell them."
Kudos.... amen
Somebody gets it, congrats
Amen
This is probably the best thing I've ever read on substack. You write with style and panache. I'm SUPER impressed. Thank you for this critical information.
One guy said my writing is atrocious!
LOL - do you think he was referring to you or the author? I'd put my money on the author of this piece.
I don't see how this is supposed to be responsive to the article. You're referring to studies without linking them and just insinuating circularly that Big Pharma doesn't like "vitamin" D as if that's some kind of proof of its utility. They also don't like horrific toxins like Ivermectin but I won't be touching that with a ten-foot pole. They don't like anything they can't patent, whether it is good or bad for health.
It is very responsive to the negativity that continually sends us down the wrong path road in healthcare!
If Ivermectin is such a horrific toxin, then why is Dr. William Makis, out of Canada, having so much success with it in his cancer tx. protocol? He's recommending 1 mg. Ivermectin, 1,100-1,200 mg of Fenbendazole, and 100 mg. of CBD daily. Supposedly, people with Stage 4 cancers are seeing significant turnarounds in their health status. Wondering if you're aware of Dr. Makis and his protocols? Genuinely curious.
The idea that cancer is something to be killed is a strange notion considering the body provides blood vessels to maintain tumors.
Makis is working within the matrix of preconceived notions from the medical establishment and just taking away the worst drugs Big Pharma has to offer and yes people will often do better on Little Pharma than big, but the whole paradigm is upside down.
Clarify your viewpoint!
Here's why vitamin D supplementation for a healthy person is likely unnecessary, and low levels are likely a confounder:
https://thescamdoctor.substack.com/p/why-your-vitamin-d-protocol-is-a?r=6hgshq
P.S. Big Supplement is no different from Big Pharma. Big Pharma just has more rules.
Most Americans are unhealthy because of low D. Are you a real doctor or just a scammer?
"because of" is where your off. I'd say it's more likely because of a sedentary indoor lifestyle. That's why supplementing vitamin D doesn't reverse most of the problems it's associated with...because it's simply a confounder.
If I were a scammer, I'd be trying to sell people vitamin D supplements for kickbacks
you are correct... if you are a fat, morbidly obese blob who eats junk food all day, and / or smokes cigarettes and/ or regulary consumes alcohol, and and and....... Vitamin D will not fix your problems.
If you are skinny, eat whole foods, don't smoke/drink… vitamin D supplements will still have no impact on many of the conditions that Vitamin D deficiency is associated with
"vitamin D supplements will still have no impact on many of the conditions that Vitamin D deficiency is associated with"
Nice inversion. You pharma goons are getting smarter.
Please read what I said more carefully and then access the sites mentioned and learn rather than attack.
Thank you for that
Why are you calling it vitamin D?
What should I call it? Active form in body is a different molecule..
I greatly appreciate this piece. One thing the Greatest Generation did was consume a significant amount of LARD. Look up the Vitamin D availablity of Lard. ... Again the sentiment that is a whole host of things not one, is clearly the message.
Lard was a target in the 'saturated fat is bad' campaign to promote seed oils.
And lard is all I use, beside olive & avocado oils.
Gave up Industrial lubricants 5 years ago.
I looked up Lard/Vit D
"tablespoon of lard can contain a substantial amount, potentially up to 1000 IU, depending on the pig's diet and sun exposure"
That last part could be an issue as commercially farmed pigs get no sunlight
Good on ya. We don't eat much meat but when we do it's only organic raised. Same with fruit and Vege. I wonder just how many heath problems arise out of non organic food
Yes, ditto, not so much the olive oil anymore, but butter, too, is good.
Industrial lubricants should be deposited where they belong: In the trash. Or maybe for use in machinery lubrication? Just not Human machinery!
I didn't mention butter, as that is my go to...
We always have 4 lbs. butter in the fridge.
When down to 1, I get antsy and buy more.
Every Saturday, I go to our farmer's market and buy a dozen free-range eggs, $7 / dozen.
Only ones I eat.
That's another, as well as beef tallow.
Bacon fat, too.
bacon fat IS lard.....
Proctor and gamble, biggest producer of seed oils, paid the American heart association in the early 60s $20million dollars to say saturated fats are bad, seed oils are good
margarine
I think your comment makes MUCH sense! YES, and yes, yes, yes. And SALT.
I'm interested in nutrition and I pay attention, no big letters after my name, at least not letters to do with these topics... I'm simply not stupid, and I read about health issues.
What we've seen over the past century is a HUGE drop in health/well-being, physically AND otherwise, while our diet advice from "experts" has been radically bizarre, in comparison with what clearly worked for most of the recorded history of how/what we eat, and one of the WORST things seems to me to be the idea that fat and salt should be extremely curbed... Looks like a real money-maker, tho!!! smdh
I Agree. Have You Ever Listened to Gary Null. Great.
Vitamin D content of lard (and pig skin and other pork products) depends on the pig’s sun exposure. Animals raised in warehouses are not the same. Look for pasture raised (or silvacultured) when possible.
I use Lard. From my local country Butcher. 👍
Beef tallow is good too!
If the animal is pastured it will have D.
Lard and Tallow. Both very beneficial. The Weston A. Price Foundation discusses these traditional foods. They also promote cod liver oil and were involved in a big scandal around it years ago. The fact that people were consuming large amounts of rancid cod liver oil, and getting sick. They still promote it though for vit. D. Just don't consume it in large amounts. I prefer not to consume rancid oils, so I stay away from cod liver oil and Omega 3's. No one knows if the oil is rancid or not. The longer it sits on the shelf, the more likely it is to be rancid. How does one know if oil isn't already rancid before being packaged and sold? All good questions.
My own approach in advanced age...
Try something likely to be safe but also likely to be potent. Expect reactions as well as results. Don't be prescriptive (like a doctor!) about supplements and be relieved when you can do without a supplement.
Disease is likely detox, so toxicity is the likely cause.
Persistent conditions are highly individual and you won't get the answer from someone plugging DMSO or herbs or borax or the latest natural whatever, no matter how beneficial such things can be. Take charge, not because you are competent but because there is nobody else to take charge.
Wait. Observe. Change. Persist.
Totally . After decades spent with people detoxing .. I still find it funny they all consider different things to be 'tox'. Eventually I stopped detoxing and ate all the things i was told were toxic like meat and dairy and even wine ... I recovered my health at that point. Duh.
Basically health is enigmatic and a change is often as good as a rest. Ive seen people healed by veganism and people healed by carnivore diets .. the whole thing comes down to working out where you are *at... tho mainly that will come down to what we can afford.
Indeed, so many dietary prescriptions are too exotic and/or too expensive. Junk and non-foods really are a no-no at my age. I eat actual food only and allow appetite the rest of the choices. There are plenty of choices.
Yup! That’s cos we are fortunate tho .. for much of the world this healthy choice isnt possible… so the question is whether to make fake food or no food .. Govts have discussed banning sugar and junkfood .. but that means fewer people fed . The sugar and grain lobbies are quite powerful , cos of all those people they suboptimally feed !. It’s all rather tricky.
Here's the thing. I live in the Australian bush and, since I'm happy to consume carbs like most other nutrients, I buy ordinary wheat meant for stock, grind it up, slow-rise a loose, unkneaded dough with less yeast and more time, cook it up Baltic Bakery style, then freeze what I can't eat within the week. Very little trouble or work. It's not organic, not sourdough, not luxe...but it's actual food and the cost is negligible.
I see what busy people are buying for their families and I know it can be better without costing more. It's so hard for them to make the changes with so many fake and real pressures on families now...but it doesn't hurt to suggest things that are a) appealing b) cheap c) easy.
Baby steps, right?
Oh well done. Sourdough is very easy , and soda bread .. its worth experimenting :) . The glyphosate on most grains can be a real worry tho. Ive been unable to eat wheat for years sadly, unless its sourdough and organic and well made :( .. so just dont overdo it you hear ! :) :)
I can always tell when I eat something sprayed with glyphosate...
I get a rash in my armpits.
Interesting! More info on that bread?
Sadly, the website for the Baltic Bakery bread has expired, as I just found out.
But here's what you do. Take your flour and make a sloppy dough, not wet but too sloppy for kneading. Just mix with a SMALL amount of yeast and let it rise for hours till it is really active. Go slowwww. When it's well and truly pumping, smash it down and put it in your greased pot. Let it rise again (it won't be slow for this second rise, but go as slow as you can so those little yeasties can eat up whatever they eat).
The last trick: when baking in your hottest oven, cover the pot for twenty plus minutes, then uncover it for the next twenty or so, till looking nice and brown and all that.
That's it. Lots of time but very little effort. It doesn't make a bread like any other, it's just bread and good for eating.
Have a look at Bake with Jack, or The Perfect Loaf.
Both on YT
It's not tricky at all, really. There is one thing that if we eliminate it from our diets and our lives, we will surely improve and flourish: Govt.
^_^
Just had to bring a little political POKE into the conversation, b/c as long as there are huge companies that benefit from poisoning us, whether it be physical, psychological, emotional, what have you, there will be fuckery.
Period.
We must learn that govt. is only required because govt. tells us it is.
We must learn that WE, the Human Race, are/is intrinsically GOOD, and that by far, the vast majority of us are wanting to live in peace and cooperation. We don't need permission to do this. We simply Do Not Comply with intrusive, coercive, and unfair "laws" and other forms of power play.
When we realize that we will be FINE without any overlording entity stealing our wealth, demanding our obedience to their self-serving domination, and telling us we are barely able to take care of ourselves without THEM ruling over us, we can move into a new paradigm of FREEDOM. The real thing.
K, sermon over (for now).
hee hee :) (:
If the U.S. government subsidized organic, regenerative farmers like they subsidize the CAFOs, GMOs, & huge pesticide-saturating farmers, then most Americans could afford to eat healthy organic, non-GMO, regenerative food like their ancestors could before Big Ag. took over our food industry.
If we stop looking to criminals in govt to solve our problems that THEY cause, and just dump the lot of them, and realize that we will do just FINE all by ourselves, when we stop letting them steal our wages via taxes, and all the other ways they steal from us... pretending that we simply can't take care of ourselves as any adults would do, then we will find our lives getting MUCH better, fairly quickly!
We don't need permission to take care of ourselves. That's how people did for a long long time, even until very recently, until GOVT's came along and killed them... They HAD to be wiped out, lest WE ALL DISCOVER how happy they were!!!
I know mainly about the UK and europe … so perhaps things are different in the US… but you would have to retain your relatively low population density.
I do think population has been MUCH over-estimated! (on purpose)
if I can correct you .. if they *had done this in the past. At this point the conversion will take ages .. and the crop yields will be lower in the short term so there will be a deficit in the near future… besides which we have pushed wildlife to its limits so we do need to claw back about 1/3 of the land for nature. A combo of restoring nature and restoring soil will take a while and we cant guarantee anything like the same yields. In places where they rapidly converted to organic there was starvation in the following years.. 30 years ago I used to say we could feed most people with integrated organic farming, but there’s a lot more people and pressures on land now so I’m far less sure of that.
You may be right about the transitioning process in some areas, and it's not likely feasible in desert areas. But, it definitely could be done in North America," without deficit in the near future", as we have an abundance of productive land. It has been & continues to be mismanaged by the perverse incentives of our government. It's not sustainable. Regenerative farming is.
Regenerative agriculture is good for us AND for grazing herds. There are ways to grow foods, and CERTAIN foods, and all sorts of things that we are not "allowed" to know about, because govt doesn't want us to get rid of it. But it's really better for everybody if we do get rid of it, as it is really fucking up our lives. Why should only a small percentage of Humanity live well, and be healthy, and so forth, when it is exactly that percentage that is brutalizing everyone else, and taking all the wealth? Let us take a moment to ponder this... Okay, time for a New Paradigm!! ^_^
AMEN to all that!!
The body absolutely does not produce Cholecalciferol in response to exposure to day light.
Cholecalciferol is a synthetic substance created via a lab process.
The body actually produces multiple hormones in response to daylight which are both water and fat soluble, stored within, and transported around, the body as required.
So called "Vitamin D" is therefore not a vitamin by definition because it is produced by the body.
There is no "test" for "Vitamin D". Testing for the presence of any one of those hormones as they are being transported around the body tells you nothing about the levels of these hormones that exist within the body.
The lab parameters (which define what's considered high, normal, and low) for the fake test are also moved at the whim of the so called food and nutrition gatekeepers. It's a smoke-and-mirrors testing process put in place simply to support the sales of an unrelated substance, namely Cholecalciferol.
This story is far more complex than just the story of Cholecalciferol.
Like fluoride left over from aluminum smelting, they need some way to sell these toxins and claim they are healthy.
Agreed, like the cholesterol levels that got lowered by Pharma influence
Once you understand eugenics and the nature of the controllers what they do always make better sense. The downside is that it's hard to accept.
Simple math concerning "rat poison"
A single dose of more than 1,000,000 IU/kg of vitamin D kills a rat
I weigh about 73 kg
Perhaps a single dose of 73,000,000 IU of vitamin D would kill me
Seems about right.
By the way, I take 100,000 IU once every 4 days - 730X less than the lethal dose for a rat
Non-lethal and health-promoting are vastly different things.
Indeed, Paracelsus was a wise man. It's the DOSE that makes the poison.
Are you seriously comparing the impact of one large single dose versus spreading out the dose over 9 years? I imagine if you add up the consumption of ANY item (salt, magnesium, even water) over 9 years versus taking that amount in one day, that would kill you also.
it’s about the accumulation in your fat cells that keep loading up the dose because you don’t excrete it
dude you still excrete it lmao
'No traditional culture needed sheep's wool dissolved in chloroform and irradiated to be healthy' ..well no, cos they absorbed the lanolin through their skin. Even supposed vegan tribes were drenched in lanolin. Topical vit d creams are reputedly the best way to take it ??
I think over washing is our main problem. Natural skin oils protected us.
Vit D was always known to be the most toxic supplement and was warned against for decades .. D2 is far worse (i suspect much of it is now D2) .. D2 is the the vegan version and they are making many foods subtley vegan these days. D2 was known to block the receptors for D3 long ago .. so you wind up with even less.
Its all super complicated but the idea of simply going back to native diets will mean a massive fight for the small amount of good food we can produce .. People generally get annoyed when i say that and claim we can all have carnivore diets .. thats a ghastlhy thought in my mind at least. The resources needed would be huge.
Ive discussed for years the feasibility of eating wild meats but that seems like a nightmare to scale up also.
Thinking back to the great vegan rat poison wars of the 1980s , i wonder if that was when they decided to poison the humans with D2 instead .. hmmmm
Our answer is to be better custodians of natire and manage our fisheries so they arent full of mercury, plastic and overfished ..
It's possible the mushroom D vits will somehow save the day .. I bank on those foods myself, mainly. My ancestors were tall and strong in the north from eating whales and I dont think that's a sustainable way forward . We are at various crunch points as a species and personally I'd avoid chemical supplements like the plague.
Osteoporosis is more about silica and boron in my understanding .. supplementing with calcium has made things a lot worse I think.
If you want to get it right for *yourself personally there are some excellent diet channels now which can keep you healthy, as long as you can afford the real foods. The problem is this stuff doesnt scale up so eventually you'll be fighting the big strong boys for the best food I guess.
I’m a big fan of not over washing, I love that you mentioned it here 👍🏼
I love the concept of not overwashing but I never knew why. Thanks for this. I follow that protocol.
Westonaprice.org has wonderful info about ancestral diets.
It does .. in fact I moved to my region based on what he said about the previous health of the people here. Virtually no-one lives as well here now as people back in his day. Most folk couldn’t afford to even if they wanted to, and as of yesterday it seems we’ve just destroyed our fishing industry and given it over to supertrawlers from abroad.
Wow. I admire your pluck and commitment to relocate. Can I ask are you in US or Canada?
Native diets are understandably a very sensitive subject so I dont make too big a deal of it I didnt have to relocate too far because both these areas he studied were in Europe and I chose the one most likely to align with my heritage, assuming that would give me the best chances. I’m happy to be called a throwback :)
a big part of our healing tradition in the north here.
Probably is tbh.. most cultures have used fungi since forever. Even manna from heaven may have been fungus. I drink it, as coffee myself.. very tasty .
Thank you so very much for this article, like yourself I have been in the same conundrum. I run a small supplement shop and have been involved with supplements for over 15 years. During this time I have seen high dose Vitamin D pop people out of severe depression, perhaps it's not long lasting since I didn't have follow up. I rather settled on the steroid aspect so perhaps it's useful as conversion to other hormones in the human body.
Long term supplementation of D3 is obviously an unknown plus the other individual variables are too complex to suss out "root cause". The other issue I confront working with people with "chronic" conditions is exactly what you mention and should be obvious but isn't to many; lifestyle, lack of exercise, fear of the sun, poor dietary choices, and dependency on the medical mafia's pharma, which all compound into a diseased body, mind, and even soul (noted in the heavily vaxxed). So I ask myself in any effort to provide some relief, can short term high dose Vitamin D3 alleviate a depressed person's symptoms and is it better than say going on pharmaceutical addictive compounds?
Sadly helping someone whose choices and lack of self responsibility make changes is most often a frustrating exercise. Therefore I do the best I can with supplementation, at this point it's pretty basic recommendations, cod liver oil, magnesium (different forms for different needs), well researched probiotics for differing symptoms, amino acids, trace minerals and at times L-Theanine, 5HTP, Gaba, etc. I prefer to see these recommendations as better than pharmaceuticals meanwhile working with the person to find some inner will that truly and fully wants to be well.
Modern human is so far away from natural human and it's interaction with nature that we are left with asking uncomfortable questions and wondering how the human body is so adaptive that it is even surviving.
Again, thank you for putting this question on the screen, they are important and by honestly asking them we may come to an aspect of human biology that doesn't rely on bio-chemical interactions as the basis of health.
Well Said. 95% of People are Incapable of Changing. Sadly. Myself Included. 😢. I’ve Been Listening To Gary Null for 30 Years. All Wonderful Advice. Wonderful Documentaries also. And I Found This Article Fascinating. 🧐. I’m Hoping to Change My Thoughts. To. Change My Brain. 🧠. I Will Die Trying. 😳🧐.
What's the source for this finding? Thanks!
The Weston A Price foundation sends to say something very different, as I expected.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/cod-liver-oil/cod-liver-oil-basics-and-recommendations/#gsc.tab=0
"Once a standard supplement in traditional European societies, cod liver oil provides fat-soluble vitamins A and D, which Dr. Price found present in the diet of primitives in amounts ten times higher than in modernized diets. Cod liver oil supplements are a must for women and their male partners, to be taken for several months before conception, and for women during pregnancy. Growing children will also benefit greatly from a small daily dose...
...Children age 3 months to 12 years: A dose of cod liver oil that provides about 5000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from about 1 teaspoon of regular cod liver oil or ½ teaspoon of high-vitamin cod liver oil.
Children over 12 years and adults: A maintenance dose of cod liver oil that provides about 10,000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from 2 teaspoons of regular cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon of high-vitamin cod liver oil.
Pregnant and nursing women: A dose of cod liver oil that provides about 20,000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from 4 teaspoons regular cod liver oil or 2 teaspoons high-vitamin cod liver oil."
What a weird comment. People are dying from cod liver oil. 🤔 Not vaccines, EMFs, a food supply that is poisoned and empty of nutrition. Not from poor self esteem, not from lack of exercise, not from pharmaceutical drugs, and certainly not from a fake world narrative of diabolical proportions — must be from cod liver oil.
Personal anecdote: was depressed, sick all the time, cold sores: Vit D level checked and 17 (very low) Supplemented per Dr order: Vit D 30 (normal) felt better. Started taking 5,000 IU D3 + K2 daily: Vit D level 50 ish and depression completely gone, I take no meds at 54, never sick, and look younger and feel better than I did at 40. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.
Similar story here. I heard about the importance of D perhaps 10 years ago. I started taking D3 supplements regularly at that time and later added K2 after I learned that was recommended when taking D3.
I would say I would get sick about as often as the average person before that. I Rarely got the flu (last time was 2004) even before I started on D3 but surely had my share of colds.
Since I started with the regular D3 supplementation I just don't seem to get sick. I may have a brush with a (very) minor cold but that happens only every few years, never gets as bad as it once regularly did and lasts a day or two at most.
The difference is striking so there is no doubt on my part about the benefits of D3 supplementation. At least for me.
I have no plans to stop taking 5000 IU every day along with K2.
BTW, never got jabbed and never got Covid or if I did, I did not notice it. And I was in the "high risk" group since I'm 66.
Good we are connecting and truth-telling our personal experiences. This did not sway my opinion either.
Do you take the D3 plus k2 supplement separately or buy the supplement as D3 + k2 combined? If purchasing separately: How much k2 is adequate per 1000 iu of D3?
No worries if you can't answer that question as I can research. Thanks!
I have exactly the same story.
In my mid 50s I thought I was turning into an old man. Low mood, sore joints, sore muscles and constant colds. While investigating something else my GP discovered thst I was extremely low on Vit D and prescribed supplementation.
Within a couple of weeks I felt like I'd dropped 10 years of off my age. All my symptoms disappeared, and my cardiovascular exercise capacity as measured on machines at my gym improved enormously. I also haven't been sick since, despite sleeping next to my wife through her two bouts of covid. I didn't get the covid vax either.
5000 IU per day now.
Anybody who says Vit D is bad for you is deranged, IMHO.
Amen
Are you taking D3 or D2? I have been on D2 for several years (except the 3 years I lived in SC - sunlight!), and especially now that I am back in OH (gray skies).
Do you know the difference between the two?
Do not take D2 it's D3 with K2 mk7 you need , your body cannot use it & it does nothing for you . Take magnesium at the same time too I take a 3 in 1 , there are 7 different ones so you need to learn about what magnesium you need .
Which of the 7 magnesium types do you take?
Used to have raised BP, skin issues and (as Winston Churchill stated "Black Dog Days") dropped seed oils and majority of carbs- I'm now the healthiest I have been since my 20s.....8000iu vit d3 and K2 daily. Oh and I don't get sunburnt anymore.
Being depressed mentally takes a monstrous toll on the body. As the article suggests, Vit D worked well for people with specific ailments. Perhaps this is what worked for you. I am 75 and not taking any drugs and seldom are sick. Hope you continue to fare well.
Nope, not coincidence. Have heard the same anecdotes over years. Thanks for sharing.
Amen. Far more people are deficient in Vitamin D than are in excess.
I’ve been taking 5000 IUs daily since last Oct and had the healthiest cold/flu season in over a decade
That's awesome! D3+K2. I am an RN and recommend this to every adult.
Will do. Thanks
A few comments:
1) You should follow Chris Masterjohn’s work. Some of his early work on Weston Price Foundation page discussed several nuances of fat soluble vitamins. For example, here (https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/update-on-vitamins-a-and-d/), here (https://open.spotify.com/episode/477BKeZ9TDRAspPsIv6CWZ), and here (https://www.westonaprice.org/vitamin-d-problems-with-the-latitude-hypothesis/)
2) most integrative physicians, if they are going to supplement vitamin D, are diligent about tracking the level, calcium, and the patient’s response. Masterjohn would add that you should track 1,25-diOH-VitD and PTH too.
3) there’s something to be said about balance. I and other providers typically recommend combining vitamin D with K2 when supplementing, and to balance out vitamin A and E from foods. A natural supplement that contains vitamin D in balance is cod liver oil, and this was quite popular in our grandparents’ generation and before.
4) when you go down the rabbit hole of studies around vitamin D, many of them are “designed to fail”. They don’t check pre-intervention levels, or if they do, they don’t check post-intervention levels to see if the dose did anything; they “under-dose” with respect to what integrative providers typically use; they don’t include any other balancing factors as described above. It’s a similar playbook used by the tobacco industry and exported to other groups, as described by Pierre Kory on ivermectin and others for other topics not convenient to the mainstream. More details about this here: https://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v14n22.shtml
I was not implying that everyone should be using it indefinitely, just as something to consider if vitamin D supplementation is indicated. Do you have evidence regarding the claim that adherents to the “Weston Price” diet are developing cancer? Anecdotes, case series, or anything else? I’m not familiar with this claim.
There are anecdotes of early deaths in the cohort, but it’s hard to draw conclusions from what’s discussed. What other factors are considered and eliminated as possibilities? Isn’t it possible that there could have been other factors besides cod liver oil use? The last case is illustrative of this point - how come the family member who was impacted by cancer the one who took the least amount of cod liver oil? The other family members seemed to have taken much higher amounts without apparent ill effects. What explains that discrepancy? It seems like another factor was at play in that one case where we have more information.
I don't disagree with you with the general point that any supplement should be viewed with skepticism when anyone makes the claim that it should be an indefinite one, rather than something used on a short-term basis for specific reasons. I would agree that long-term it's ideal to address health concerns through lifestyle and arranging our life and our environment to match our ancestral patterns as best as possible.
I am familiar with Grant Genereux's work on Vitamin A toxicity. I'm skeptical that this is a root cause for many people as he seems to claim, especially when testing does not support this interpretation and people suffer for months without relief following his protocol and recommendations. Your mention of Grant reminds me of when Chris responded to an influencer about his own health possibly being caused by vitamin A toxicity. It would be well worth your time to review if you had not seen it before - https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/my-response-to-garrett-smith-about
Good article, thought-provoking. I was reminded too, of raw milk. I was talking to my husband today about how the milk industry was created through pasteurization. At that point, people were already convinced that “science” fixed “natural” problems, but they were still buying fresh milk from their local farmers, so they told them (with tv commercials, I believe) about the “dangers” of raw milk. Just like with the Texas measle epidemic, where two children were falsely represented as dying from measles, they presented a couple false cases of raw milk poisoning. I believe it probably is possible for raw milk to make someone sick, although I mistrust the media when they say this has happened- because of their track record. However, it would seem that this danger is vanishingly small. It’s like telling people that they shouldn’t have pets because of rabies, or eat canned goods because of botulism. Today’s milk is ultra-pasteurized, you don’t even need to store it in a fridge until after it is opened. It is boiled to death. We are fortunate that we found a farm selling raw milk, and it is very delicious. My husband met a young man there, who said that he was “lactose intolerant”, but had no trouble drinking the raw milk. I’ve heard of people who thought they couldn’t tolerate gluten in flour, but then found they could eat European flour just fine. So I think you are right, we are being poisoned.
Love my raw milk! No issues
And it rarely spoils! It just turns into clabbered milk, which is great for baking!
Could it be that MS and cancer could be caused by parasites that don’t like rat poison?
MS and cancer are mostly caused by a doctor's diagnosis following a visit to a medical facility:).
My mother went to emergency one day after her third migraine headache (was not normal for her) the emerg. Doc gave her two needles in her skull, on the top! (I was not there...otherwise I wouldn't have allowed it)
Following this "visit" my mother had a series of strokes over the following 4 months. The strokes caused neurological damage & I suspect were caused by the needles in the skull.
After her strokes she was diagnosed with MS. And now she considers herself an MS sufferer.
This was a cascade effect from one visit to the ER. It's been a couple decades since and she still has the effects of the brain damage but does not link any of these events together. So I agree with your statement whole heartedly. Now she takes the vitamin d as a life saving agent and is afraid to not take it as it's the only thing MS doctors really recommend. I don't know about vitamin d deficiency as she is a sun worshipper...winter months in Mexico, dark Tan all year around.
A woman called Jody Berger wrote an entire book about being misdiagnosed with MS in her 30s. It is titled "Misdiagnosed" 😄.
I'll look for that book, thank you so much for taking the time to to point to it! 🥰🌹
It's an entertaining read.
That sounds like acupuncture gone very wrong.
Acupuncture is not practiced in emergency rooms.
I’ve reconciled that issue years ago. We are continually producing abnormal cells and it is a strong and vibrant immune system that eliminates the abnormal cells. When the immune system becomes deficient, then the immune system, T cells are not sufficient and are overwhelmed by cancer cells of one type or another depending on what are the root causes.
Dr. MacDonald proved from autopsies that MS is caused by the round worm. My sister has MS and is, from time to time, prescribed steroids. -- isn't Vit D a STEROID hormone? Hmmm. That might explain its beneficial anti-inflammatory, immune suppressive effect on MS sufferers.
Great article👍
Tbh, I was more than a bit annoyed with "Agent" calling every supplement poison. Especially vitamin B12.
A century ago people with Pernicious Anemia ( the inability to absorb vitamin B12 via the liver) used to die a horrific death within ONE YEAR -no exceptions.
In 1926 Drs George Minot & William Murphy discovered that large amounts of liver (later liver extract) could reverse the disease.
For this groundbreaking discovery, Drs. Whipple, Minot, and Murphy received the 1934 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
Later, scientists isolated the “anti-pernicious anemia factor” from liver — which turned out to be vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin), discovered in 1948.
Mary Shorb, a bacteriologist, was studying how a certain microorganism, Lactobacillus lactis (later renamed L. lactis Dorner), required a special growth factor.
She suspected this factor was the same as the one curing pernicious anemia.
Working with Karl Folkers (Merck) and Alexander Todd (Cambridge), Shorb helped develop an assay to measure it.
Using this tool, teams at Merck (U.S.) and Glaxo (U.K.)independently isolated the red crystalline substance from liver in 1948.
The substance was named vitamin B12 (cobalamin). The red color comes from a single cobalt atom at the core-the only vitamin with a metal ion.
Tiny but continuous doses "cured" pernicious anemia within weeks, where before it was fatal.
In 1956, Dorothy Hodgkin (who also solved the structure of insulin and penicillin) used X-ray crystallography to determine the complex structure of B12.
It remains one of the most complicated natural molecules ever fully mapped.
Chemical synthesis was finally achieved in the 1970s, though production today is mainly microbial fermentation.
Millions of people worldwide are alive today because of the availability of synthetic, POISONOUS , injectable vitamin B12.
The injections must continue forever.
It's a small price to pay to stay alive.
Another chemical waste product that somehow cures nerve damage after strokes plus a gazillion other maladies is DMSO.
I can personally attest to the efficacy of these two "poisons" in saving lives.
Go figure.
Regarding your question about the source of vitamin D among the Inuits and other arctic peoples. Below are traditional arctic strategies to prevent vitamin D deficiency :
( courtesy of Chat GTP)
Cod Liver Oil & Fish Liver
• Cod liver oil was (and still is) a traditional Arctic “superfood.”
• Rich in vitamin D and vitamin A, it was taken daily, sometimes straight from the liver.
• Other fish livers (halibut, haddock) were also consumed.
2. Fatty Fish (Eaten Whole)
• Herring, mackerel, Arctic char, salmon, and trout were staples.
• Often eaten raw, fermented, or dried, preserving vitamin D.
• Eating the skin and fat (where vitamin D concentrates) was especially important.
3. Marine Mammal Fat & Organs
• Seal, walrus, and whale blubber/liver provided vitamin D (and A).
• Seal oil in particular was a dietary fat and nutrient source.
4. Fermented & Preserved Foods
• Fermentation (e.g., of fish or seal) preserved nutrients.
• Some fermentation methods even enhanced bioavailability of fat-soluble vitamins.
5. Seasonal Sunlight Use
• In summer, people maximized sun exposure during brief periods of 24-hour daylight.
• Skin pigmentation among Inuit is slightly lighter than other circumpolar groups, allowing more vitamin D synthesis in short sunlit months.
Hormesis.
"It's almost as if the body, when pushed to extremes by disease or deficiency, can utilize even a toxic substance in beneficial ways."
A little bit of poison is good for you.
I knew someone who worked at Kodak. They used gallons of nicotine which required double hazmat suits because any splash on the body would kill you. They spilled it in their yard once and killed the entire river in Rochester NY. Here I am sucking on a nicotine mint because like nothing else it pulled me out of the COVID brain fog.
Wow, you brought up some very good points and some very good questions to ask.
I'm sure it is very difficult to open people's eyes to this, when these people are in fear of becoming seriously ill or even death if not taking this supplement, a fear reinforced by their doctors.
It is complex to capture this whole system and understand how it works. You have to become knowledgeable in various areas. This will prevent most people form believing any of it and they won't look into it, because they don't understand it and it is too much work.
It's almost like everything around us is designed to fool us and simultaneously drain us of consciousness, brain capacity, time to live, health, money, freedom, etc.
I appreciate your articles. You are very good in collecting information, connecting dots and pointing out important questions. Could you write about the reverse scenario? How would my life look like, if I want to avoid falling for any of these "scams" out there? What would I really need to maintain a healthy body, live a healthy lifestyle, avoid substances that could trigger side effects and send me down rabbit holesm
Thank you!
Don't forget to take vitamin K2 alongside vitamine D3 to prevent all inconveniences of D3
Butter.
From grass-fed cows, preferably. Even in Wisconsin, The Dairy State, that can be difficult to find. Virtually all my life I have a heavy drinker (milk). I now have osteoarthritis. After years of searching, I have recently found a place nearby to purchase raw milk produced by grass-fed cows.
I spend many hours outdoors, especially in the summer, and was curious about my Vitamin D levels. I took a blood test 2 years ago, near the end of summer, and was surprised to find my D3 levels were only around 40 ng. So, I started taking D supplements. Before too long, my knees started aching so much that I couldn't sleep. After researching, I discovered that Vitamin D supplementation leaches calcium from the bones (or something like that). After taking Vitamin K2 those pains in my knees went away. Maybe (probably) I can eventually drop the K2 supplementation because of the raw milk and butter consumption.
You will have to eat tons of butter !
A pound of butter a week per person, and a dozen good yolky fresh eggs, plus a generous sprinkling of sea salt, would put most doctors out of business:).
And remember also : "An Apple a day keeps the doctor away".
And chew a few (organic) apple seeds or sprinkle dried ground apricot seed powder on your yoghurt. B17.
Indeed